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Foul or fair? What would have happened??
Posted on 6/24/17 at 7:56 am
Posted on 6/24/17 at 7:56 am
If OSU had asked for an appeal and they deemed it a fair ball,what would the outcome have been? Single? Ground rule double? How many runs come in?
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Posted on 6/24/17 at 7:57 am to lsu2grad
Every base runner would've been up to the umpires discretion as to where they would've ended up. Which is a step too far if you ask me.
Posted on 6/24/17 at 8:00 am to lsu2grad
Posted on 6/24/17 at 8:00 am to jlovel7
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Every base runner would've been up to the umpires discretion as to where they would've ended up. Which is a step too far if you ask me.
Please tell me that is not really the rule. If it isn't a home run then it should be a ground rule double. One run would have scored and runners on 2nd and 3rd.
It should not be left up to umpires discretion.
Posted on 6/24/17 at 8:04 am to gatorhater08
Why would it be a homerun? It didn't go over the fence. Why would it be a ground rule double? It didn't bounce over the fence.
Posted on 6/24/17 at 8:06 am to jlovel7
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Every base runner would've been up to the umpires discretion as to where they would've ended up.
This
Posted on 6/24/17 at 8:07 am to gatorhater08
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It should not be left up to umpires discretion.
It should be left to the umpire's discretion. Imagine if the runner on 2nd was holding to tag, and a relay would have prevented him from scoring. The umpire should rule it a single with no runs scored.
Once baseball replay gets to the level of football replay, those plays will start to be called fair with replay to fix it.
Posted on 6/24/17 at 8:07 am to lsu2grad
I remember last year in a similar situation (foul ball call was overturned to fair), they gave the batter a double with all runners taking 2 bases, so my guess is that it would've been the same thing here. Since runners were on 1st and 2nd at the time, it would've scored 1 run.
Posted on 6/24/17 at 8:09 am to gatorhater08
The rules for awarding bases is mind numbing. Umps can award a single base or they can award more given varying circumstances. It will always be a discretion call.
Posted on 6/24/17 at 8:24 am to lsu2grad
I'm sure we'll find out today what they would have done....one of the several times they bring it up again. Especially if LSU looks like they'll take today's game.
Posted on 6/24/17 at 8:29 am to lsu2grad
Well considering it was a fair ball, it's a legit question
Posted on 6/24/17 at 8:32 am to lsu2grad
I guess no on wanted to follow the link in my other post. This is a statement released by the NCAA.
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During the bottom of the third inning in today’s game a ball was hit down the left field would line. Our third base umpire went out down the line and ruled the ball to be foul. It was obviously a very close call but one that the umpire crew thought they ruled correctly. Per our replay protocol either the head coach may come out onto the field and request the crew to get together or the umpire crew may get together on their own if they feel a review is warranted. In either situation, it is the sole authority of the crew chief to decide if any play is to go to review. Nothing happened on this play that triggered a review. Had this play gone to review AND was ruled fair by replay, the replay officials would have placed the runners on the bases they think they would have received had the ball been ruled fair. The NCAA does not publicize the name or the location of the replay crew but that they are members of the NCAA Baseball Umpire Program most familiar with umpire mechanics and the NCAA playing rules.
Posted on 6/24/17 at 8:39 am to gatorhater08
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If it isn't a home run then it should be a ground rule double.
Ball was not a ground rule double and the umps killed the play with the foul call. I honestly think he is awarded a single and each runner one base for bases loaded. I dont believe the Ump has the authority to award extra bases on discretion but I dont know that.
OSU has the claim for getting robbed of a great hit but LSU has the claim for not getting to defend the play. The ball was pretty close to Duplantis so runners were not in motion and were likely holding for tagup.
Posted on 6/24/17 at 8:44 am to TigerLunatik
To answer the OP's question, it would have been up to the review team to place the runners, but almost certainly they would have given the batter a double and advanced everyone 2 bases.... 1 run scored and men on 2nd and 3rd when all is said and done. It would have been a fairly straight-forward call and result, had they reviewed it.
You're not going to give a guy a single on a ball off the wall in the corner ... that's easily a double, and what they would have given him, if reviewed.
You're not going to give a guy a single on a ball off the wall in the corner ... that's easily a double, and what they would have given him, if reviewed.
This post was edited on 6/24/17 at 8:48 am
Posted on 6/24/17 at 8:47 am to jlovel7
I think the umpire would have assessed that the guy on 2nd would have gotten hosed at the plate, and so he would have gone ahead and called him out.
Posted on 6/24/17 at 9:02 am to lsu2grad
3rd base coach didn't flinch, may have hit the chain link, bad camera angles.
Posted on 6/24/17 at 9:04 am to OchoDedos
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3rd base coach didn't flinch, may have hit the chain link, bad camera angles.
No it hit the pad. You can see the dent in the yellow party of the pad where the ball just hit it in the replay.
We lucked out big time.
Posted on 6/24/17 at 10:50 am to DBU
+1. It was a game changer as far as the flow of the game and atmosphere. OSU coach and the crew chief and the 3rd base umpire blew it. When these things happen in BIG time events there is usually a rule change. I'm thinking in the future they will just review it and there won't be a need to challenge from head coach. Amazing how quickly they moved on....
Posted on 6/24/17 at 12:10 pm to DrD
Why did Duplantis act so nonchalant about getting to it? Did he hear it called foul or just a smart acting job?
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