- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
Football season recap - better or worse than last year
Posted on 11/26/18 at 10:49 am
Posted on 11/26/18 at 10:49 am
Offense: Same. Some of it was very good (A&M second half and OT), some of it was very bad (Bama). Overall, QB play was an improvement, but OL was a weakness, giving up sacks and at times struggling to open rushing lanes.
Defense: Worse. Injuries have as much to do with it as anything, but overall the 2018 defense did not live up to what it was last year. In many ways, it was worse than last year. DL struggled and relied too much on White to clean up the rushing plays. Linebacker play, overall, was solid. Pass defense, outside of Greedy, was a mixed bag.
ST: Better. It can be argued that ST carried this team. Great punting, kickoffs in the back of the end zone and a clutch field goal kicker. Punt returns were worse than last year and at times hurt the team.
Coaching: Better. Slightly better. This coaching staff did great in big moments (Miami, Auburn, UGA and yes even parts of the A&M game). It also underperformed and played down in games where they should have separated themselves with the competition. It struggled to close on Florida and adjust in Bama. It did not take chances to beat A&M in a critical OT period and went conservative. Recognizing need (QB and PK) and getting the best available in Juco transfers was key for this season. Having a full-time ST coach and a growing army of analysts helped. Still, both lines (DL and OL) seemed to decline. Recruiting must finish strong.
Defense: Worse. Injuries have as much to do with it as anything, but overall the 2018 defense did not live up to what it was last year. In many ways, it was worse than last year. DL struggled and relied too much on White to clean up the rushing plays. Linebacker play, overall, was solid. Pass defense, outside of Greedy, was a mixed bag.
ST: Better. It can be argued that ST carried this team. Great punting, kickoffs in the back of the end zone and a clutch field goal kicker. Punt returns were worse than last year and at times hurt the team.
Coaching: Better. Slightly better. This coaching staff did great in big moments (Miami, Auburn, UGA and yes even parts of the A&M game). It also underperformed and played down in games where they should have separated themselves with the competition. It struggled to close on Florida and adjust in Bama. It did not take chances to beat A&M in a critical OT period and went conservative. Recognizing need (QB and PK) and getting the best available in Juco transfers was key for this season. Having a full-time ST coach and a growing army of analysts helped. Still, both lines (DL and OL) seemed to decline. Recruiting must finish strong.
Posted on 11/26/18 at 10:56 am to Tony The Tiger
quote:
Offense: Same
, there isn't a metric out there that suggest it was better in regulation.
Hell, a strong argument can be made that Etling was superior to Burrow too.
Posted on 11/26/18 at 10:58 am to Tony The Tiger
Nothing has changed. It’s all the same since 2014.
Posted on 11/26/18 at 10:59 am to Tony The Tiger
so much better than last year jesus
Posted on 11/26/18 at 11:01 am to Tony The Tiger
Better. 3 losses to ranked teams. Last year we lost to Troy.
Still... from a diehard LSU fan that was one of the worst feeling losses I can recall this weekend. I was there for that referee shitshow
Still... from a diehard LSU fan that was one of the worst feeling losses I can recall this weekend. I was there for that referee shitshow
This post was edited on 11/26/18 at 11:03 am
Posted on 11/26/18 at 11:02 am to Tony The Tiger
Much Better season...much more fun...Auburn, Florida, Georgia games were all great entertainment and the ATM game was written in the history books.
it's ENTERTAINMENT. So on that level it performed grandly.
it's ENTERTAINMENT. So on that level it performed grandly.
Posted on 11/26/18 at 11:04 am to panzer
Agreed, I would prefer LSU to be entertaining than winning
Posted on 11/26/18 at 11:04 am to Tony The Tiger
quote:
Offense: Same. Some of it was very good (A&M second half and OT), some of it was very bad (Bama). Overall, QB play was an improvement, but OL was a weakness, giving up sacks and at times struggling to open rushing lanes.
I'd argue that overall the offense is worse, particularly if you look at statistics. Burrow is a better QB than Etling, and shows it when he's given time to throw the ball. The OL continues to be a weakness and it's plagued us for years. The play calling is worse IMO. Very conservative in the red zone and reminiscent of what we saw under Miles. WR corps has talent, but they have way too many drops.
Posted on 11/26/18 at 11:05 am to Tony The Tiger
quote:
Defense: Worse. Injuries have as much to do with it as anything, but overall the 2018 defense did not live up to what it was last year. In many ways, it was worse than last year. DL struggled and relied too much on White to clean up the rushing plays. Linebacker play, overall, was solid. Pass defense, outside of Greedy, was a mixed bag.
The defense was better this year by nearly every metric too. Funny how what you feel and what actually happened are two different thing entirely.
Posted on 11/26/18 at 11:10 am to Tony The Tiger
I would offer worse for OFF - no Guice/Williams, mixed bag of WR's (some young budding stars though with Chase and Marshall) with too many drops, new QB who didn't arrive until summer, and a young OL that seemed to not get better as the season unfolded. Promise is ALL of them return next season except Brosette and Brumfield.
DEF: agreed, injuries AND the lack of developing a pass-rusher was profound. With all the supposed talent on the roster, we never had another DE/OLB step up. PT was there for the taking.
ST: MUCH better. KO touchbacks/coverage was off the charts. FG kicking was outstanding. P often flipped the field or pinned them deep. While the return game took a step back, the aforementioned three areas make this facet of the team 'much' better.
Coaching: better. We played 7 ranked teams this season and finished 4-3 (one L stolen from us, other due to poor execution), and obviously won the other games. OL play must improve for this team to make strides next season and make the CPOs. The rest of the pieces are there, barring any surprise underclassmen departures - OFF (QB, WR's, new RB's), DEF (every level & a healthy Chaisson) and ST's.
DEF: agreed, injuries AND the lack of developing a pass-rusher was profound. With all the supposed talent on the roster, we never had another DE/OLB step up. PT was there for the taking.
ST: MUCH better. KO touchbacks/coverage was off the charts. FG kicking was outstanding. P often flipped the field or pinned them deep. While the return game took a step back, the aforementioned three areas make this facet of the team 'much' better.
Coaching: better. We played 7 ranked teams this season and finished 4-3 (one L stolen from us, other due to poor execution), and obviously won the other games. OL play must improve for this team to make strides next season and make the CPOs. The rest of the pieces are there, barring any surprise underclassmen departures - OFF (QB, WR's, new RB's), DEF (every level & a healthy Chaisson) and ST's.
Posted on 11/26/18 at 11:21 am to Tony The Tiger
I would say overall this year was better than last year. Our schedule was brutal compared to last year.
Last year we were saying "if only we won that Troy game", this year we're saying "if only we won that @Florida and @A&M game". We were a hell of a lot closer this year to being 11-1 than last year and our schedule was much tougher
Good news, next year's schedule is a lot easier. I expect a CFP appearance next year. If not, clean house.
Last year we were saying "if only we won that Troy game", this year we're saying "if only we won that @Florida and @A&M game". We were a hell of a lot closer this year to being 11-1 than last year and our schedule was much tougher
Good news, next year's schedule is a lot easier. I expect a CFP appearance next year. If not, clean house.
Posted on 11/26/18 at 11:23 am to Tony The Tiger
End result is the same. Which is the same end result if they would have kept Les
Posted on 11/26/18 at 11:26 am to Tony The Tiger
Meh. Win the bowl game and we can all say it’s better.
Lose and at best it’s a wash.
Offense worse
Defense probably better but dealt with a lot of injury issues
ST better by a lot
Coaching the same or worse.
Bottom line I guess: we didn’t win the west, didn’t win the SEC, didn’t make the playoff and didn’t win a National Championship. So weather this year was incrementally better or worse really doesn’t matter.
Lose and at best it’s a wash.
Offense worse
Defense probably better but dealt with a lot of injury issues
ST better by a lot
Coaching the same or worse.
Bottom line I guess: we didn’t win the west, didn’t win the SEC, didn’t make the playoff and didn’t win a National Championship. So weather this year was incrementally better or worse really doesn’t matter.
Posted on 11/26/18 at 11:35 am to Tony The Tiger
9-3. No different than last year
Posted on 11/26/18 at 11:37 am to Mr6daveyobrians
How? We could very well end up with the exact same record.
Posted on 11/26/18 at 11:37 am to Mr6daveyobrians
quote:
so much better than last year jesus
Was it though?
We had our one really big win against UGA, much like our one really big win against Auburn last year. Beat some decent teams, lost to Bama, lost a couple we shouldn't have in UF and A&M. I guess we avoided a Troy-like catastrophe, so that's nice. I call it a wash at this point, obviously depending on how the bowl game goes.
Posted on 11/26/18 at 11:42 am to slackster
quote:
The defense was better this year by nearly every metric too. Funny how what you feel and what actually happened are two different thing entirely.
That is simply not true.
2017 11th total defense
2018 31st total defense
2017 15th scoring defense
2018 34th scoring defense
Posted on 11/26/18 at 11:44 am to Tony The Tiger
We went 9-3 last year and everyone pointed out the schedule was easy.
This was a rebuilding year,(no real offensive weapons) The schedule was much harder and we went 9-3 including a referee hose job in the a&m game.
This year was a definite improvement over last year and Coach O has us going in the right direction. A more imaginitive OC to go with a couple RB and punt return upgrades would set us up for a playoff run next year.
This was a rebuilding year,(no real offensive weapons) The schedule was much harder and we went 9-3 including a referee hose job in the a&m game.
This year was a definite improvement over last year and Coach O has us going in the right direction. A more imaginitive OC to go with a couple RB and punt return upgrades would set us up for a playoff run next year.
Posted on 11/26/18 at 11:45 am to Tony The Tiger
We didn’t lose to a team like Troy this year, but besides that it was pretty much the same or worse.
Posted on 11/26/18 at 11:51 am to Tony The Tiger
Much better team and program from 2016 to 2018. To go 9 and 3 with the schedule that LSU had was a solid achievement. We had 8 new starters on offense. We will have 8 or 9 returning starters for 2019. Defense will have 8 starters back.
In both cases we have some red shirts that will reinforce our line of scrimmage.
Completely different outlook for 2019. And the schedule is much more favorable.
In both cases we have some red shirts that will reinforce our line of scrimmage.
Completely different outlook for 2019. And the schedule is much more favorable.
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News