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Excuses /truth/both about our defense?
Posted on 11/17/19 at 12:26 pm
Posted on 11/17/19 at 12:26 pm
-We have 1 healthy d-lineman
-We have 1 above avg. SEC LB'er
-We have no healthy safeties
-Todd Harris was a "glue guy" on the back end and we have missed him more than anyone understands
-Divinity loss changed our whole dynamic
-Aranda has been bad scheme-wise during the last few games
-Stingley is still a freshman
Thoughts?
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-We have 1 above avg. SEC LB'er
-We have no healthy safeties
-Todd Harris was a "glue guy" on the back end and we have missed him more than anyone understands
-Divinity loss changed our whole dynamic
-Aranda has been bad scheme-wise during the last few games
-Stingley is still a freshman
Thoughts?
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Posted on 11/17/19 at 12:28 pm to GarTiger
You left out that the AC was turned off in the locker room.
Posted on 11/17/19 at 12:32 pm to GarTiger
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Aranda has been bad scheme-wise during the last few games
People keep saying this, but we held Bama to 1 offensive TD in the first half and jumped out to a 20 point lead in their house. We were up 31-7 at halftime yesterday. The first half defense in both of those games is part of Aranda's scheme.
The only bad call he made was going man coverage at the end. Aside from that, Bama just has WR that can beat our CBs.
The Ole Miss second half, saw a shitload of missed tackles and bad angles. That's not scheme. That's the defense getting complacent in the second half because we were up by 4 scores early.
I am no saying Aranda's been perfect, but damn, you guys act like he is the second coming of Peveto.
Posted on 11/17/19 at 12:36 pm to stho381
So I'll note that Aranda bullet as excuses for you? I wasn't saying everything I listed was true. That's why I put those qualifiers on it.
Posted on 11/17/19 at 12:36 pm to stho381
Given the opportunity the coaching staff will stymie the offense to bleed the clock.
Kind of like taking the Ferrari to make groceries. This offense is designed to go full throttle.
Kind of like taking the Ferrari to make groceries. This offense is designed to go full throttle.
Posted on 11/17/19 at 12:39 pm to OchoDedos
People refuse to acknowledge what is as plain as the nose on your face...spread offenses rarely have dominant defenses. I don't need a bunch of stats...I watch
Posted on 11/17/19 at 12:39 pm to GarTiger
Aranda found himself with 4-5 in the box at times and got gashed. Inexcusable against a one-dimensional running QB.
Or genius for OSU
Or genius for OSU
This post was edited on 11/17/19 at 12:44 pm
Posted on 11/17/19 at 12:46 pm to stho381
quote:
I am no saying Aranda's been perfect, but damn, you guys act like he is the second coming of Peveto
fricking this.
Posted on 11/17/19 at 12:48 pm to GarTiger
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spread offenses rarely have dominant defenses
Expecting not to give up 400 rushing yards is not expecting a dominant defense
This post was edited on 11/17/19 at 12:54 pm
Posted on 11/17/19 at 12:50 pm to GarTiger
They are not mutually exclusive.
Posted on 11/17/19 at 12:52 pm to GarTiger
Def is sub par.Worst since Tepper
Posted on 11/17/19 at 12:52 pm to AlwysATgr
They don't have to be but give me 3 teams who do both sides of the ball at an elite level?
Posted on 11/17/19 at 12:54 pm to SOL
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Worst since Tepper
I was thinking about this last night. Tepper, 2008, 2013...I think this one might be the worst of all. At least 2008 could stop the run.
Posted on 11/17/19 at 12:59 pm to biglego
I don't even know if it can be argued that our D played undisciplined, uninspired football last night and really a good part of this season. I will say this though 9 & 10 are different kinda cats. They are going to create havoc for SEC defenses for the next few yrs. I don't think we've ever played a team with 2 dudes in the same backfield that were that fast.
Posted on 11/17/19 at 1:03 pm to GarTiger
Like 3 teams in our peer group?
Posted on 11/17/19 at 1:07 pm to GarTiger
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give me 3 teams who do both sides of the ball at an elite level
We can give you 45 teams better at total defense
Posted on 11/17/19 at 1:08 pm to biglego
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Tepper, 2008, 2013...I think this one might be the worst of all. At least 2008 could stop the run.
2008 (only Curtis returning in the secondary) and 2013 (following the early exodus from 2012, i.e., Mingo, San, Logan, Minter, Reid) had a valid excuse.
There are none with this D. We have experienced 4 and 5* talent all over the field.
Posted on 11/17/19 at 1:09 pm to CanIPlay636
How many of those 45 teams are in the top-10 offensively?
Posted on 11/17/19 at 1:11 pm to GarTiger
What do I win?
(Deep breath but here goes):
1) Clemson '18
2) UF '08
3) Us in '06 or '07.
(Deep breath but here goes):
1) Clemson '18
2) UF '08
3) Us in '06 or '07.
Posted on 11/17/19 at 1:17 pm to Dodd
quote:
Aranda found himself with 4-5 in the box at times and got gashed. Inexcusable against a one-dimensional running QB.
You never saw Tommy Frazier play then. Teams had trouble stopping that one dimensional QB. This has a lot to do with the o-line blocking scheme and the lack of discipline on defense.
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