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TheTexasTiger7
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re: Ed Ingram back on the O-line?
The line was not good, but E needs to get better as well. There’s no denying that.


Stephen1979
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re: Ed Ingram back on the O-line?
Thanks for the info. Sounds promising


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Earlpearl
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re: Ed Ingram back on the O-line?
Lol. You dumbasses amaze me. Dude had a terrible Ol, young inconsistent unproven wrs, no elite rbs, and an inexperienced QB just on campus, and it's E's fault. Lol. Let me guess, OL shouldn't matter, we could put wrs up there, and a good OC should be able to scheme around it while playing 6 top 20 national defenses this past year. That's my favorite argument, he should be able to scheme around poor OL play. There are only a couple things you can try, and it isn't like DC's aren't aware of what those are. I guess if it is repeated enough on here, it has to be true. Lmao
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lsu2006
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re: Ed Ingram back on the O-line?
What a weird melt.


Earlpearl
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re: Ed Ingram back on the O-line?
Oh I'm triggered man.


Imber
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re: Ed Ingram back on the O-line?
Of course you are. Someone had the audacity to criticize your boy’s hand picked OC who no one else wanted. There’s a reason for that.


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rob62
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re: Ed Ingram back on the O-line?
Man you have done it now. Lol.

You have the audacity to point out reality to these stupid fuking idiots who seem to think that Orgeron inherited an offense which all it needed was a tweak here or there by some non-existant OC to be undefeated.

In reality, Orgeron inherited an offense in which our best QB was named Danny Etling but the resident geniuses on this board wanted to just anoint Lowell Narcisse who had blown out both knees and had not played since he was a Sophomore in high school. (For you Rantards info, Narcisse ended up a backup at MGCCC with a 44% completion rate in JUCO. He has now traded his LSU scholly for one at UT-San Antonio)

Orgeron knew his QB situation so he found Joe Burrow after Etling was gone and he also addressed needs in the LSU
Secondary and on the DL. All done by transfer.

The OL had to be juggled for the 1st half of the season to try to find a damn OT. Hell, they even moved Rosenthal to OL to address OL needs.

These are situations Orgeron inherited
but the Rantards ignore all that and think that the right OC and a magic playbook is all that is needed.

I guess they all missed Adrian Magee at Tackle vs. Bama. There is no magic play to offset getting your arse whipped all night long.
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TheTexasTiger7
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re: Ed Ingram back on the O-line?
I have no idea why you’re so pissed at me right now. I don’t even think E is as bad as a lot of people think. All I said in my initial post was that he could improve and call better plays. I agree with everything you said as far as, a bad o-line, no great RB, inexperience, etc. He still could have done a little better job than he did. Not sure why you’re so triggered at me right now. Do I think E is that good? No, but I also don’t think he’s some awful OC like you’re making it sound like I said.


rob62
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re: Ed Ingram back on the O-line?
Considering the all the negative factors LSU had going into this season not the least of which he had a QB for 5 weeks before LSU opened vs. Miami, a WR corps where Freshmen were counted on to be the leaders, and an average RB corps
what would you have considered a good job by Orgeron and Ensminger?

LSU ended up 10-3 and winning a NY6 bowl ranked 6th in the nation. Then consider that LSU lost to UF by TD on the road and had a game stolen at A&M.
The Bama game was one where LSU was beaten on the OL badly (LSU had schemed away from OL problems all year) and nothing was going to change that. However, LSU could have actually won 11 or 12 games this season.

Knowing all this I just think this staff did a good job this year and I wonder how Kirby Smart or Gus or Mark Richt would have handled the LSU situations had they faced them? Being that Orgeron and Ensminger and Aranda beat all 3 and should have beaten Jimbo I wonder.

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bluebengal
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re: Ed Ingram back on the O-line?
Well it’s called RANT for a reason! Opinions vary


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bencoleman
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re: Ed Ingram back on the O-line?
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guess they all missed Adrian Magee at Tackle vs. Bama. There is no magic play to offset getting your arse whipped all night long



This right here. Ask Deculus, Charles and Cush about it. All three have been abused at the line of scrimmage by different people. None of them were ready to play. They were forced to play because LSU didn't have anyone else. No upperclassmen does that sound like a talented well stocked with depth team? Anybody that answers yes to that question is a liar. Sure they'll twist the numbers and call out this stat and that stat but it all boils down to LSU didn't have the bodies along the offensive line to compete at the level necessary to win the west.

They won 10 games without offensive tackles. I believe Charles and Deculus can continue to work and be serviceable if not pretty good tackles but in 2018 they weren't ready and were pushed out there before their time. For that we all ought to appreciate them having the courage to get out there and compete.


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mtntiger
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re: Ed Ingram back on the O-line?
I hope you're right on Ingram.

I don't have much hope for Taylor. That seemed like a worse situation to me.

If Coach O is cool with it, though, then bring it.


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Damone
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re: Ed Ingram back on the O-line?
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You dumbasses amaze me. Dude had a terrible Ol, young inconsistent unproven wrs, no elite rbs

Maybe he should have recruited better the year before?


bencoleman
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re: Ed Ingram back on the O-line?
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Maybe he should have recruited better the year before?



This is your answer?



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LSUStar
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re: Ed Ingram back on the O-line?
Has he been reinstated? No? Get back to us when he is.



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Beessnax
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re: Ed Ingram back on the O-line?
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but the resident geniuses on this board wanted to just anoint Lowell Narcisse who had blown out both knees and had not played since he was a Sophomore in high school.


Lol lol lol. I remember those posts! I kept thinking "how do these people even think this would be a good idea?". I also remember all of the hate Etling got, which was unwarranted. Those were some days in the history of this border where the level of stupidity broke records.


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magicman0001
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re: Ed Ingram back on the O-line?
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Lol. You dumbasses amaze me. Dude had a terrible Ol, young inconsistent unproven wrs, no elite rbs, and an inexperienced QB just on campus, and it's E's fault. Lol. Let me guess, OL shouldn't matter, we could put wrs up there, and a good OC should be able to scheme around it while playing 6 top 20 national defenses this past year. That's my favorite argument, he should be able to scheme around poor OL play. There are only a couple things you can try, and it isn't like DC's aren't aware of what those are. I guess if it is repeated enough on here, it has to be true. Lmao



Sorry for getting a little off topic, and this has no reflection on the OP, but thank you Earlpearl. It's such a comfort knowing there are people who read/follow the team (and actually comprehend what they're reading), listen to the interviews/conferences concerning the team, and know what we need to make a championship run. AND, equally important, REMEMBER what they've read/watched/heard concerning the needs to reach that championship level.

My favorite is when they claim LSU is ready to make a run this coming year. Gushing about how awesome the o-line will be, how awesome the RB position will be with Emery, how great the secondary will be by signing Stingley to fill the void left by Greedy, overall team depth, etc.

This isn't being logical at all. Our o-line was serviceable AT BEST last year. We had to sacrifice a set of hands to max protect instead of using them to make plays (while haters blasted E for "lack of offense.) We'll need Ingram back to make us just "solid" on the line (and this is considering their progression from last year.) I hope for better, but I'm not getting my hopes up until I see a good reason to. All I can do at this point is cheer for them and hope.

We have limited experience with ONE RB who'd rather dance than run (hopefully he addresses that.) The rest has virtually no experience at all. Not to mention not one of our returning RBs did anything last year to turn my head. There's absolutely not one shred of proof we'll be "great" at RB next year. Deep, but not necessarily great.

And just because we added Stingley doesn't mean we've suddenly gotten back to the elite status at DB. He also has ZERO game experience. I expect it to be good. But great? No.

Obviously these people either don't remember what they read/heard, didn't comprehend it, or never keep up with the team to start with. If they did, they'd know we're still 2/3 years from a serious run.

They're setting themselves up for disappointment. The worst part is, it's these same flaming idiots who will be the first to bash the team for not meeting "their expectations"





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Man you have done it now. Lol.

You have the audacity to point out reality to these stupid fuking idiots who seem to think that Orgeron inherited an offense which all it needed was a tweak here or there by some non-existent OC to be undefeated.

In reality, Orgeron inherited an offense in which our best QB was named Danny Etling but the resident geniuses on this board wanted to just anoint Lowell Narcisse who had blown out both knees and had not played since he was a Sophomore in high school. (For you Rantards info, Narcisse ended up a backup at MGCCC with a 44% completion rate in JUCO. He has now traded his LSU scholly for one at UT-San Antonio)

Orgeron knew his QB situation so he found Joe Burrow after Etling was gone and he also addressed needs in the LSU Secondary and on the DL. All done by transfer.

The OL had to be juggled for the 1st half of the season to try to find a damn OT. Hell, they even moved Rosenthal to OL to address OL needs.

These are situations Orgeron inherited but the Rantards ignore all that and think that the right OC and a magic playbook is all that is needed.

I guess they all missed Adrian Magee at Tackle vs. Bama. There is no magic play to offset getting your arse whipped all night long.



Oh my God! :bow: You've made my day


EasterEgg
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re: Ed Ingram back on the O-line?
So he didn't sexually assault that minor after all?


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GonadBallbarion
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re: Ed Ingram back on the O-line?
I want to know this. If Rosenthal is our answer at left tackle then why can't cameron wire be our answer at right tackle????


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bencoleman
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re: Ed Ingram back on the O-line?
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Sorry for getting a little off topic, and this has no reflection on the OP, but thank you Earlpearl. It's such a comfort knowing there are people who read/follow the team (and actually comprehend what they're reading), listen to the interviews/conferences concerning the team, and know what we need to make a championship run. AND, equally important, REMEMBER what they've read/watched/heard concerning the needs to reach that championship level.

My favorite is when they claim LSU is ready to make a run this coming year. Gushing about how awesome the o-line will be, how awesome the RB position will be with Emery, how great the secondary will be by signing Stingley to fill the void left by Greedy, overall team depth, etc.

This isn't being logical at all. Our o-line was serviceable AT BEST last year. We had to sacrifice a set of hands to max protect instead of using them to make plays (while haters blasted E for "lack of offense.) We'll need Ingram back to make us just "solid" on the line (and this is considering their progression from last year.) I hope for better, but I'm not getting my hopes up until I see a good reason to. All I can do at this point is cheer for them and hope.

We have limited experience with ONE RB who'd rather dance than run (hopefully he addresses that.) The rest has virtually no experience at all. Not to mention not one of our returning RBs did anything last year to turn my head. There's absolutely not one shred of proof we'll be "great" at RB next year. Deep, but not necessarily great.

And just because we added Stingley doesn't mean we've suddenly gotten back to the elite status at DB. He also has ZERO game experience. I expect it to be good. But great? No.

Obviously these people either don't remember what they read/heard, didn't comprehend it, or never keep up with the team to start with. If they did, they'd know we're still 2/3 years from a serious run.

They're setting themselves up for disappointment. The worst part is, it's these same flaming idiots who will be the first to bash the team for not meeting "their expectations



You have a point with all of this.
Stingley will come in and start and he'll probably make some freshman mistakes but all in all should acquit himself well.
There's no way that LSU is not better at running back than last year. At the least Lanard adds speed which was lacking last season. Hopefully he can hold it down while the two freshman can get their legs under them.
Best for last, there's nothing that makes me feel confident other than another year to get ready in the offensive line. Until somebody, be that Rosenthal or Wire or one of the starters at tackle, steps up and shows that they can play the position I'll be skeptical.
As of now the line should at least be competent if not above average. We hope


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