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Posted on 8/15/10 at 1:31 pm to TheBob
quote:Neither one of these teams classes for were full. Nebraska signed 21 and FSU signed 24 and that includes guys that may not have made the grades to enroll.
He can no longer sign with another school like Nebraska, or Florida St. because they are full.
Posted on 8/15/10 at 1:31 pm to deuce985
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LSU still shouldn't have over signed like they did considering they knew everyone was close to qualifying as it is.
They didn't know that, and everyone wasn't "close" to qualifying. The way 2011 positional recruiting started out proves that. Recruiting shows that they didn't think Wing would come until the moment he was qualified.
Posted on 8/15/10 at 1:32 pm to deuce985
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deuce985
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He told them he was not taking a grayshirt before they even offered him a ship. They agreed.
I'm going to NEED to see a link on this one before I believe you. Without a link I'll go ahead and doubt you.
Posted on 8/15/10 at 1:35 pm to TheBob
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So Porter is the bad guy
Nobody is the bad guy. There is no bad guy. Well other than the typical people trying to blame Les for all of their misfortunes.
Posted on 8/15/10 at 1:35 pm to TheBob
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So Porter is the bad guy.
Got it. Les and staff are the best.
/thread
didn't say he was a bad guy. the fact is he chose to go to kentucky instead of LSU. Yes, miles & staff are top 5-10 in recruiting in the country.
Posted on 8/15/10 at 1:36 pm to TheBob
quote:Why does there have to be a bad guy, Bob. In the end, it worked out for everyone.
So Porter is the bad guy.
Got it. Les and staff are the best.
Posted on 8/15/10 at 1:37 pm to TheBob
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This post was edited on 8/15/10 at 1:38 pm
Posted on 8/15/10 at 1:39 pm to Sid in Lakeshore
It was Barrow, not Porter. Don't know why I thought it was Porter. Maybe I did read that somewhere but I don't see it on any Rivals articles...unless I'm overlooking it.
Posted on 8/15/10 at 1:43 pm to XbengalTiger
You do realize that those teams also have their 85 scholarship limits too, right? I like how that slips your mind. Not every school pulls what Less does trying to sign at least 25 every year and forcing attrition. The only two years we weren't at 25 were his first (which he couldn't come in and just cut players) and the year Janzen Jackson screwed around and that class had 24 I believe. So in 4 or his first 5 years, Les has tried to sign at or above the max and basically forced attrition of a significant number of players.
Not all teams recruit that way, so I am guessing both of those teams recruited to within range of their 85 limits.
Not all teams recruit that way, so I am guessing both of those teams recruited to within range of their 85 limits.
Posted on 8/15/10 at 1:44 pm to LSUMafia
So your point is that ONLY Les Miles has had ever had a grayshirt situation?
Posted on 8/15/10 at 1:48 pm to Uncommon Cents
No, not at all. I was responding to XBengalTiger comment that the kid had options, but he lost several other options as his other choices filled up since before he signed. Nebraska, Tenn, and FSU are all maxed out. He only really had UK left with space.
Posted on 8/15/10 at 1:48 pm to LSUMafia
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Not all teams recruit that way
Only the teams that can. I guess LSU is still an attractive location.
Posted on 8/15/10 at 1:49 pm to LSUMafia
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Not all teams recruit that way, so I am guessing both of those teams recruited to within range of their 85 limits.
The best teams in the SEC do. Those same teams also have to deal with more struggling qualifiers than Texas or USC (for the obvious reason, western schools and Texas schools are just better on average than southeastern schools.)
To start implying or talking about how signing over 25 is such a bad thing to do at this stage of the game AFTER THE FACT is seriously weak.
Posted on 8/15/10 at 1:50 pm to noonan
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Only the teams that can.
That's not true at all. Some schools actually develop their talent or give them a chance to develop rather than cutting them after 1 or 2 years. Not all coaches recruit like Miles and Saban do. Some because they can't, sure, but many because they don't believe in it.
Posted on 8/15/10 at 1:52 pm to Tigercat
I am not knocking Miles for signing 25 each year. shite it helps his recruiting rankings that people seem to love even though 40% of those players don't don't even stay on the team for more than 2 years it seems.
My point was to XBengalTiger bitching that other schools weren't full because they only signed 21 and 24. Fact is some teams don't pull the SEC crap. Plain and simple.
My point was to XBengalTiger bitching that other schools weren't full because they only signed 21 and 24. Fact is some teams don't pull the SEC crap. Plain and simple.
Posted on 8/15/10 at 1:52 pm to Uncommon Cents
this is ridiculous 95% of schools do it the same damn way. Its not something Miles invented. If the guy really wanted to play here he would have taken the shirt. and evereyone is acting as if now he is gonna sleep in an alley and never been heard from again he was released and can now go where he wants and for some time he was still contimplating taknig the grayshirt.
and also there we i think 3 guys that became eligible at the last second. Im sure i read somewhere that Ware was cleared the day before reporting day and also Wing and i think there was one or 2 more but im not completly sure of it so it isnt like he came in and the coaches knew from day one he was gonna be offered a greyshirt
and also there we i think 3 guys that became eligible at the last second. Im sure i read somewhere that Ware was cleared the day before reporting day and also Wing and i think there was one or 2 more but im not completly sure of it so it isnt like he came in and the coaches knew from day one he was gonna be offered a greyshirt
Posted on 8/15/10 at 1:56 pm to LSUMafia
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I was responding to XBengalTiger comment that the kid had options, but he lost several other options as his other choices filled up since before he signed. Nebraska, Tenn, and FSU are all maxed out. He only really had UK left with space.
Wow, making shite up sure is the rant way. So, you are saying that Nebraska, UT and FSU are all at the 85 scholarship limit? Just trying to figure exactly what your claim is before I provide the proof that you don't know WTF you are talking about. As for Kentucky, Porter didn't even have an offer from Kentucky before signing day so maybe it worked out to his benefit in the long run to get another SEC offer he didn't hold before and where he was comfortable going.Posted on 8/15/10 at 1:57 pm to LSUMafia
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I am not knocking Miles for signing 25 each year. shite it helps his recruiting rankings that people seem to love even though 40% of those players don't don't even stay on the team for more than 2 years it seems.
that's all you do here.
quote:you're right, the SEC has elite teams, that win national championships. Fact. don't like it? gtfo.
My point was to XBengalTiger bitching that other schools weren't full because they only signed 21 and 24. Fact is some teams don't pull the SEC crap. Plain and simple
Posted on 8/15/10 at 2:03 pm to LSUMafia
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Not all teams recruit that way
Tell me the last 6 BCS champs and then tell me how many of THOSE teams oversign.
Again....we take 17 and let some last second GREAT players go....Miles is getting HAMMERED for that too.
Porter is gone...good luck to him......End of Story
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