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Posted on 3/18/20 at 10:13 am to Stevo
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Means he has the respect of the other Dons.
Yes....however the Dons are not impressed with how sloppy he was in not having insulation and talking about it, allegedly, on a wiretap. Respect though, nonetheless.
Posted on 3/18/20 at 10:49 am to kciDAtaE
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And needs better phone etiquette while discussing cheating
WOW. Many of us DO NOT want to be associated with cheating. We want a CLEAN program. We want an ethical coach....not a gangster. And I'm tired of hearing the tired excuse of "everyone does it" and "If you don't cheat, you won't win." Please, spare me from these immature excuses. Cheating is inexcusable and has no place at my university.
Posted on 3/18/20 at 10:52 am to Irish LSU Fan
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Cheating is inexcusable and has no place at my university.
Do you believe that LSU won the football national championship without paying players or giving extra benefits?
Posted on 3/18/20 at 10:55 am to statman34
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however the Dons are not impressed with how sloppy he was
The biggest complaint is he is an amateur at this basketball bag handling. Hes gotta learn to do it like the big dogs and separate himself from the handlers.
Posted on 3/18/20 at 10:59 am to TigerLunatik
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Do you believe that LSU won the football national championship without paying players or giving extra benefits?
Yes...until someone shows me evidence to the contrary. I think our football program has been clean for a long time (certainly during the Les Miles era). Think about this....Les knew he needed a QB. Les had the opportunity to go out and "buy" a QB. However, it is obvious he did not. Now, as for Orgeron, who knows why Joe Burrow chose LSU? Until I see evidence to the contrary, I believe Burrow came here because he wanted to play/win.
Posted on 3/18/20 at 11:02 am to Irish LSU Fan
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Yes...until someone shows me evidence to the contrary. I think our football program has been clean for a long time (certainly during the Les Miles era).
I think that is incredibly naive.
Posted on 3/18/20 at 11:07 am to Irish LSU Fan
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WOW. Many of us DO NOT want to be associated with cheating.
Good luck in life. Who isn't cheating at something?
Only one person in history who was sinless. He was on earth over two thousand years ago.
Posted on 3/18/20 at 11:16 am to Gus007
Hes guilty and a cheat. Fire his no coaching defense arse
Posted on 3/18/20 at 11:23 am to Irish LSU Fan
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I think our football program has been clean for a long time (certainly during the Les Miles era). Think about this....Les knew he needed a QB. Les had the opportunity to go out and "buy" a QB
I don’t know, man. They may not have developed, but Les landed some pretty highly touted QBs in his time, including the #1 DT guys in their respective years (I think) in Perrilloux and Shep. But I do think the logistics of having so many more football players every year(who also have to stay at least 3 years) along with all the last minute flips on Signing Day makes It much more difficult than it is in basketball. And without the whole AAU setup, I’m just not sure how easy it would be to be handing out cash to get a recruit. Again, the logistics just seem too hard to make it widespread.
But regarding Wade, I think we have to consider the fact that Woodward did not hire him makes his leash a little shorter than most on here seem to assume. As an alum, Woodward may feel the same as Irish or may not want to die on a hill he did not create with a coach he did not hire.
Posted on 3/18/20 at 11:27 am to OKtiger
So the actual audio of a transcript we knew existed forever and resulted in nothing?
Posted on 3/18/20 at 11:28 am to Irish LSU Fan
Then you are too naive to post on an adult site. EVERY successful program pushes the envelope or you can't win. You probably think Zion turned down $150,000 from Kansas to go to Duke because theyre crowd is so great. Geez. Give me a break
Posted on 3/18/20 at 11:28 am to OKtiger
Yes, let's cancel college basketball for the first time in our history and then when it comes back we can kneecap some programs just for fun so as to completely kill the sport. Sounds wise.
Posted on 3/18/20 at 12:50 pm to Irish LSU Fan
Just.....WOW!!!!!!
Are you mentally challenged, or just ignorant? Every single program that recruits well in football and men's basketball is cheating at an OBSCENE level. There may be some duke's and LSU's and bama's who MIGHT get a discount on these boys because they can get them to the pro's easier, but they all pay players (or players are paid on their behalf).
You need to go root for Dartmouth playah.
Are you mentally challenged, or just ignorant? Every single program that recruits well in football and men's basketball is cheating at an OBSCENE level. There may be some duke's and LSU's and bama's who MIGHT get a discount on these boys because they can get them to the pro's easier, but they all pay players (or players are paid on their behalf).
You need to go root for Dartmouth playah.
Posted on 3/18/20 at 3:09 pm to tigahlovah
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Every single program that recruits well in football and men's basketball is cheating at an OBSCENE level.
If you are correct, then I hope the entire house gets "burned down" and rebuilding starts soon. Maybe the FBI and the NCAA are "working together" toward that goal. Name-calling seems not to be our way out of this issue. Everyone should desire a clean program that operates in a clean sport. Otherwise, championships/success mean very little.
Posted on 3/18/20 at 3:14 pm to Coach C
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EVERY successful program pushes the envelope or you can't win.
Paying players IS NOT pushing the envelope. That is blatant cheating. Pushing the envelope would be something like communication with an athlete during the no contact time.
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You probably think Zion turned down $150,000 from Kansas to go to Duke because theyre crowd is so great.
I think that if Kansas offered a bribe/illegal payment to Zion, the NCAA should burn their house down.
Posted on 3/18/20 at 3:21 pm to TigerLunatik
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I think that is incredibly naive.
Maybe. However, the alternative is to acknowledge and show approval for the cheating thus making all of us as unethical as the cheaters. I consider myself an ethical person and I'm sure you feel the same way (about yourself). That is not a path I have ever traveled on during my many years on this earth. I'm not trying to sound like a saint (because I'm not), but I try to do what is ethical (sometimes at great expense).
Posted on 3/18/20 at 3:31 pm to Gus007
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Good luck in life. Who isn't cheating at something?
Thanks. "trying" to lead an ethical life is not easy. We all fail at this from time to time. That's a given. Embracing someone else's unethical behavior, justifying unethical behavior, admiring unethical behavior, defending unethical behavior are not things I wish to engage in.
This is for all of you who believe "a coach can't win if he does not cheat."......As a "teacher" WW has a responsibility to lead by example, regardless of the consequences. If WW enters into a segment of a profession that is unethical/dirty and feels like he cannot survive "unless" he cheats AND determines he cannot (or is unwilling) to call attention to the unethical behavior, he should find a different profession.
Posted on 3/18/20 at 3:32 pm to Irish LSU Fan
I know, you have never ran a stop sign or exceeded the speed limit. What self awareness and self control. The second coming is here?
Does Coach get a hearing before we fire him or are rumors enough to send him packing?
Does Coach get a hearing before we fire him or are rumors enough to send him packing?
This post was edited on 3/18/20 at 3:35 pm
Posted on 3/18/20 at 4:56 pm to Gus007
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Does Coach get a hearing before we fire him or are rumors enough to send him packing?
I've not said WW should be fired. BTW....the LSU administration must think there is something "smelly in Demark." They FORCED WW to sign a new contract that states (among other things) that if there is "one" finding of "wrongdoing" from the NCAA.....you are gone! I'm not sure I (or you) know of ANY other college BB coach that has a contract like that. Do you?
BTW....I said in an earlier post that I am certainly NOT perfect. Nor do I want to sound like I am. Yes, I have exceeded the speed limit. Big...Huge difference between occasional speeding on the interstate and bribing young athletes to attend your school. I hope you agree with me about that. Do you?
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