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re: Does LSU need to respond to the Guice’s accusations?
Posted on 8/19/20 at 1:05 pm to saturncube21
Posted on 8/19/20 at 1:05 pm to saturncube21
Yeah, "Darrius is no longer associated with the university".
Next.
Next.
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Posted on 8/19/20 at 1:05 pm to michael corleone
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Anyone want to bet that someone in the media has already sent a public record request for emails and texts ? If not, it’s coming.
Are you saying this as if it'd be appalling if the media did their job?
Posted on 8/19/20 at 1:07 pm to saturncube21
No!
Posted on 8/19/20 at 1:08 pm to Broski
If the media did their job. Not if the media dug dirt and made lies out of it.
Posted on 8/19/20 at 1:11 pm to canyon
Aasa is \.\\\z//
Posted on 8/19/20 at 1:12 pm to tigerfan88
I'm still catching up, where did this info come from?
Posted on 8/19/20 at 1:22 pm to tigerfan88
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No formal complaint against Guice was ever made.
Victim #1-Refuses to give statement and make formal complaint after being directly asked to do so by the university.
Victim #2 - Goes to rehab for drug abuse. Tells rehab employee about alleged rape. Rehab employee tells LSU. The complaint from the rehab employee fails to mention Guice by name. All of this occurring years after the incident.
Combine that with the Coach O statement from the Redshirt and to me this sounds more like a couple of girls that got too drunk and got laid then woke up the next day with regrets. The one with the boyfriend had to claim it was a rape. Easier to say that than what she actually did. The other one had actually made it home and then told him to come back over.
I can see this thing going around the team as Guice banged Redshirts girlfriend one night but it only happened the one time. Coach O trying to keep it from becoming a fight, does the ole arm around the shoulder thing telling him this kind of thing happens in life. I seriously doubt O had heard anything about an alleged sexual assault.
This whole story sounds fishy as hell.
Posted on 8/19/20 at 1:25 pm to saturncube21
The fact that universities and/or football coaches are required to "investigate" CRIMINAL ALLEGATIONS is beyond fricking ridiculous. Rape is a very serious crime that should be reported to the police...not a football coach. And the investigation and prosecution of such crime should be handled by our criminal justice system. Not useless bureaucrats in some Mickey Mouse quasi-"legal" proceeding devoid of due process.
I don't know if Guice did or did not commit the acts he is (at least in the USA Today article) accused of. But the fact that NEITHER woman reported the incident to law enforcement certainly casts some doubt on the veracity of those claims. LSU can't find someone guilty of a crime and force them to serve a prison sentence. AT MOST, LSU can kick the accused out of school.
Reporting the allegations ONLY to the school (as alleged) rather than the police simply reeks of a desire for retribution against the accused, but not enough to seek to hold him accountable for a crime. Or more specifically, they know the evidence probably wouldn't be enough to satisfy the criminal burden of proof, but may be enough to satisfy the Title IX minuscule "burden of proof."
I have two daughters. Nothing makes my blood boil more than the mere thought of some guy raping them. But, God forbid, should that ever happen Ed Orgeron or some ding dong in Thomas Boyd hall is not who I'm having my daughter report it to. That report is going immediately to law enforcement.
I don't know if Guice did or did not commit the acts he is (at least in the USA Today article) accused of. But the fact that NEITHER woman reported the incident to law enforcement certainly casts some doubt on the veracity of those claims. LSU can't find someone guilty of a crime and force them to serve a prison sentence. AT MOST, LSU can kick the accused out of school.
Reporting the allegations ONLY to the school (as alleged) rather than the police simply reeks of a desire for retribution against the accused, but not enough to seek to hold him accountable for a crime. Or more specifically, they know the evidence probably wouldn't be enough to satisfy the criminal burden of proof, but may be enough to satisfy the Title IX minuscule "burden of proof."
I have two daughters. Nothing makes my blood boil more than the mere thought of some guy raping them. But, God forbid, should that ever happen Ed Orgeron or some ding dong in Thomas Boyd hall is not who I'm having my daughter report it to. That report is going immediately to law enforcement.
Posted on 8/19/20 at 1:32 pm to michael corleone
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Anyone want to bet that someone in the media has already sent a public record request for emails and texts ? If not, it’s coming.
Most Texts aren’t public record.
University employee emails would be.
This post was edited on 8/19/20 at 1:33 pm
Posted on 8/19/20 at 1:34 pm to Big4SALTbro
What about... doing the right thing?
Posted on 8/19/20 at 1:34 pm to SammyTiger
If LSU employees were talking about covering up rape allegations on university phones or using university emails then they should be fired for stupidity as well as poor morals.
Posted on 8/19/20 at 1:35 pm to tigerfan88
You gotta have a private phone for private shite.
I am Mostly wondering what went on through the formal channels to the university with girl 2.
I doubt There is some football cover up. I would Argue most Title IX departments are a fricking mess. You either hear horror stories of date rapist walking around free or guys getting railroaded with little or no due process. I still Wouldn’t love to see my Alma Mater become the next big story.
I am Mostly wondering what went on through the formal channels to the university with girl 2.
I doubt There is some football cover up. I would Argue most Title IX departments are a fricking mess. You either hear horror stories of date rapist walking around free or guys getting railroaded with little or no due process. I still Wouldn’t love to see my Alma Mater become the next big story.
This post was edited on 8/19/20 at 1:39 pm
Posted on 8/19/20 at 3:51 pm to Irish LSU Fan
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Yes. Woodward needs to launch an investigation ASAP. Coach O needs to be questioned about his alleged comments. This already has the "smell" of a cover-up....so, that horse has already left the barn. LSU is required by law to report these allegations to law enforcement. I'm guessing right now lawyers from BRPD and LSU are formulating a statement that explains why they did not open a full investigation (blaming that decision on the alleged victims - their stories were not credible).
Shut up asswipe. Your thoughts are utterly ridiculous based on what we know right now. Jeez.
Posted on 8/19/20 at 3:53 pm to saturncube21
LSU and all such entities should always refer all such matters to law enforcement and then get out of the way. Period, full stop, end of fricking story.
Posted on 8/19/20 at 7:38 pm to saturncube21
no
Posted on 8/19/20 at 8:23 pm to saturncube21
Stupid thread, no, no accusations during the time period Guice was here.
Posted on 8/19/20 at 8:51 pm to tigerfan88
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No formal complaint against Guice was ever made.
State law mandated that if an educator has knowledge of an accusation of sexual assault, it must be reported to the police.
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Victim #1-Refuses to give statement and make formal complaint after being directly asked to do so by the university.
She's telling them now.
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Victim #2 - Goes to rehab for drug abuse.
Yes...after the alleged rape.
Posted on 8/19/20 at 8:55 pm to purplengold1
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The comments by O were put in there to add attention to the article.
So, the story about comments by O are false?
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If you think those comments mean a thing in this situation, you are a moron.
Well, it shows that O knew about the issue.
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Miles. Not O.
Miles has nothing to do with this (according to the article). O, however knew there was an issue.
Posted on 8/19/20 at 8:57 pm to Geauxgurt
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The second claims she may have, but the details have not been released.
THIS is one of the major concerns. They did not investigate. LSU/Woodward/Coach O have some important questions to answer.
Posted on 8/19/20 at 8:58 pm to saturncube21
Didn’t Coach O just recently praise President Trump?
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