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Do you Still Hate Aleva?

Posted on 12/2/17 at 11:56 pm
Posted by skullopener
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
2182 posts
Posted on 12/2/17 at 11:56 pm
If Jimbo was asking for the same deal last year, do you still blame Aleva and the LSU administration for passing on it!!
Posted by RosyFinchBOYZ
Member since Oct 2017
421 posts
Posted on 12/2/17 at 11:57 pm to
Yes, and not just because of Jimbo.
Posted by Spankum
Miss-sippi
Member since Jan 2007
55969 posts
Posted on 12/2/17 at 11:58 pm to
This is a damn good question...I am interested to see how many rational answers you get
Posted by hashtag
Comfy, AF
Member since Aug 2005
27463 posts
Posted on 12/2/17 at 11:58 pm to
Nah, I hate him for hiring a coach no one else wanted though, instead of offering a good 3rd choice.
Posted by c on z
Zamunda
Member since Mar 2009
127362 posts
Posted on 12/2/17 at 11:59 pm to
Yes
Posted by skullopener
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
2182 posts
Posted on 12/3/17 at 12:00 am to
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Yes, and not just because of Jimbo.


Well you see, you still mentioned Jimbo in there. Are you willing to give him a pass on Jimbo
Posted by skullopener
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
2182 posts
Posted on 12/3/17 at 12:01 am to
quote:

Nah, I hate him for hiring a coach no one else wanted though, instead of offering a good 3rd choice.


And who would that be?
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66328 posts
Posted on 12/3/17 at 12:02 am to
It’s not passing on Jimbo or pussying our on herman

It’s givig up and giving the job to O.

It’s botching firing a beloved head coach. I agree It was time, but frick if he didn’t do it in the worst way possible. Loose lips sink ships.

It’s his multiple shitty BB hires. Him ignoring women’s basketball completely.

I dont Know what he’s done right, besides maybe will wade
Posted by skullopener
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
2182 posts
Posted on 12/3/17 at 12:03 am to
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Yes


Why? Can you expand on it.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
112195 posts
Posted on 12/3/17 at 12:03 am to
Yes. Alleva has been a joke long before last offseason
Posted by LSUgrad08112
Member since May 2016
2925 posts
Posted on 12/3/17 at 12:05 am to
I’ll put it this way: I’d MUCH rather if he didn’t make our next football coach hire, but I’m sure as hell not mad about him not dishing out $75,000,000 for Jimbo Fisher. I think he’s a pretty average hiring and operations guy but I don’t think he has the sack to take control when he needs to or make the right decision when faced with a lot of options and it seems like he gets rattled then does dumb knee jerk shite I.E. Aramark, Herman/Orgeron debacle, hiring Jones, Duke lax scandal, etc.

That being said and to give you a short answer, no, I don’t blame anyone from top to bottom for passing on the absolutely ridiculous butt-frick-of-a-deal that A&M just gave a guy who’s coming off of a 5-6 season. But I do blame him for his below average performance and terrible job of dealing with the media throughout his tenure here.
This post was edited on 12/3/17 at 12:08 am
Posted by NoGeaux
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
5533 posts
Posted on 12/3/17 at 12:06 am to
Here is the deal. The HC market value has exponentially grown over the past 10 years.

Is 7.5M outside the market today? Are you sure that 75M over 10 years will be?

In 2007 the highest paid coach was Saban at 4M.

If he were locked in at 4M per over 10 in 2007 he would be a bargain in today’s market.
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
94332 posts
Posted on 12/3/17 at 12:07 am to
Yes. He didn't conduct much of a search and then got all butthurt and hired O.
Posted by skullopener
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
2182 posts
Posted on 12/3/17 at 12:07 am to
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pussying our on herman


He was never coming to LSU when Texas job was offered.

quote:

It’s givig up and giving the job to O.


Who else was left that would fit here and keep all the recruits?

quote:

Him ignoring women’s basketball completely.

No one cares
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
27765 posts
Posted on 12/3/17 at 12:08 am to
Yes, even with taking Jimbo out of the equation completely.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40070 posts
Posted on 12/3/17 at 12:09 am to
quote:

Do you Still Hate Aleva?


Is he still the LSU AD?


IF the answer is yes, then yes I still hate him.


IF the answer is no, then yes I still hate him.
Posted by BlackCoffeeKid
Member since Mar 2016
11695 posts
Posted on 12/3/17 at 12:10 am to
quote:

I dont Know what he’s done right

We're a golf and gymnastics school. Get used to it.
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
27765 posts
Posted on 12/3/17 at 12:11 am to
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Who else was left that would fit here and keep all the recruits?

Winners fit everywhere and smart administrators should always be willing to sacrifice the short term impact of one class to get the right person in place.

That kind of small minded thinking leads to terrible decision making.
This post was edited on 12/3/17 at 12:19 am
Posted by LSUgrad08112
Member since May 2016
2925 posts
Posted on 12/3/17 at 12:12 am to
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In 2007 the highest paid coach was Saban at 4M.

If he were locked in at 4M per over 10 in 2007 he would be a bargain in today’s market

He was locked in at 2.3 million over 7 years in 2003 (unfathomably high at the time) and he was making $10MM per year at Bama within 4 years this “ackchually by definition, any price that the market offers is fair market value” bullshite needs to stop. A business can OBJECTIVELY overpay. It’s why businesses go out of business after making shitty deals. But instead of going out of business, A&M is just going to be screwed going forward.
Posted by GeorgeWest
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2013
13058 posts
Posted on 12/3/17 at 12:13 am to
Jimbo was never offered in 2016 and was not a candidate for our HC job.

He was in 2015 with a $30 million, 5-year offer. Sexton wanted more at the last minute and Alexander balked because of all the pressure put on him by Republican state legislators and Jindal and his henchmen. And that offer was made public news by our S&C coach because he wanted to retain Miles. Who in Alleva's circle leaked that is not known by me.
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