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Do we have a better chance to win the SEC tournament than to get an NCAA at large bid?
Posted on 2/21/18 at 1:42 pm
Posted on 2/21/18 at 1:42 pm
Seem like the at large bid is too much of a long shot at this point. Winnning the SEC tournament might be the only way in now.
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Posted on 2/21/18 at 1:44 pm to tigbit
If we win out we'll be 19-11 (10-8). Not saying that's going to happen, but I can't envision a world where that isn't good enough for a bid.
Posted on 2/21/18 at 1:50 pm to lsu2006
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but I can't envision a world where that isn't good enough for a bid.
Depends on the resume obviously. If this conference was super weak like it had been in years past, I’d be even more worried that not even 2 wins in the conference tournament would be enough for an at large bid.
Posted on 2/21/18 at 1:53 pm to tigbit
To get in we pretty much need to win 4 games. Either win out and 1 in the tourney or 2 of the 3 and 2 in the tourney. We do that and we’re in.
Posted on 2/21/18 at 1:53 pm to lsu2006
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If we win out we'll be 19-11 (10-8). Not saying that's going to happen, but I can't envision a world where that isn't good enough for a bid.
If we win a game in the conference tournament, we'd be sitting very pretty.
Losing our first game in the conference tournament against a team like Georgia could drop our RPI all the way back down to around 66.
It really just depends on what the committee values most. The quadrant system of wins has been talked about a lot, but that whole system is based on RPI, so that tells me they still value the actual RPI metric, too.
66 would be one of the lowest RPIs in the field, if not the very lowest. However, we have a lot of great wins. Hopefully the committee values those wins a lot. I think they will.
Posted on 2/21/18 at 1:53 pm to lsu2006
Obviously it’s a tall order, but if they win out and win 1 in the tourney I’d say it would be extremely tough to leave them out. My goal for them is win 2 of last 3 and 1 in tourney. I think that gives them a good shot.
Posted on 2/21/18 at 2:08 pm to tigbit
19 wins is the mark imo, regardless if we win out or win multiple tourney games. 20 would increase are chances pretty significantly while if we somehow got to 21 I think we would be a lock.
19 will be a tall task for these guys but certainly doable. 20 seems like a hard task
19 will be a tall task for these guys but certainly doable. 20 seems like a hard task
Posted on 2/21/18 at 2:11 pm to purplengold1
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Obviously it’s a tall order, but if they win out and win 1 in the tourney I’d say it would be extremely tough to leave them out. My goal for them is win 2 of last 3 and 1 in tourney. I think that gives them a good shot.
This is the correct answer.
We're currently the first team out in the latest USA Today bracket. I suspect we'll be either first 4 or next 4 out of the next Lunardi bracket. A loss to Georgia or USC would be painful, but I think that we're very much in the conversation if we win 2 of the next 3 and win a game in the conference tournament.
This post was edited on 2/21/18 at 2:14 pm
Posted on 2/21/18 at 2:25 pm to JR Hamilsbach
They aren’t winning out, and they also aren’t winning the sec tourney. Their most realistic chance to play in the post season is hope for a NIT bid
Posted on 2/21/18 at 2:27 pm to guttata
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They aren’t winning out,
Maybe not but they still have 3 games to play and they can win them all....so while it's unlikely it isn't impossible. Your statement makes it impossible. Just saying.
Posted on 2/21/18 at 2:38 pm to guttata
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They aren’t winning out
It certainly won't be easy, but looking at our last 3 games, UGA and SCar are both below us and the toughest one will be MSU which is the home finale. If we win the next two (doable) you best bet they're gonna come home ready to play in that last game.
I'm certainly not "expecting" it but I'm not writing it off either, it's not really that farfetched.
Posted on 2/21/18 at 4:40 pm to WaterLink
Need to win at least 2 regular season & 2 in the tournament imo. Still think it is NIT.
Posted on 2/21/18 at 4:44 pm to guttata
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They aren’t winning out,
Probably not but we can at least talk about the possibility.
Posted on 2/21/18 at 5:02 pm to The Truth 34
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Probably not but we can at least talk about the possibility.
No. Hypothetical discussion on a message board is not allowed. You can't consider hypothetical situations when we have posters who can evidently see the future and give concrete answers to hypothetical questions
To answer the OP, LSU probably has a better shot at an at large bid than winning the SECT.
1. Winning the SECT would require LSU to put together a string of wins on 3-4 consecutive days. This team isn't incredibly deep, and seems to struggle without much time to prepare for an opponent. In Maui LSU clearly prepped a long time for Michigan and were ready to go. After winning that game they were totally lost vs. ND and Marquette
2. Even with another loss, LSU should remain in the CONVERSATION for an at large bid due to the number of "good wins". That doesn't absolutely mean they would get in, but to say they OBJECTIVELY have "no chance" is either ignorant or asinine.
Posted on 2/21/18 at 5:41 pm to Alt26
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To answer the OP, LSU probably has a better shot at an at large bid than winning the SECT.
1. Winning the SECT would require LSU to put together a string of wins on 3-4 consecutive days. This team isn't incredibly deep, and seems to struggle without much time to prepare for an opponent. In Maui LSU clearly prepped a long time for Michigan and were ready to go. After winning that game they were totally lost vs. ND and Marquette
2. Even with another loss, LSU should remain in the CONVERSATION for an at large bid due to the number of "good wins". That doesn't absolutely mean they would get in, but to say they OBJECTIVELY have "no chance" is either ignorant or asinine.
I would agree with this, with the exception that we are a more mature team than when we lost to ND and Marquette. T
Posted on 2/21/18 at 5:47 pm to tigbit
Agreed, for sure... Also, watching this Scar UGA game and they're talking about LSU being a tier 1 win on account of our top 75 RPI now got me thinking at how fast things have changed, we were 1-11 at this point in the league a year ago... Who could have guessed we'd be 7-8 and in the hunt for a tourney bid?
Posted on 2/21/18 at 7:35 pm to tigbit
Not true at all. We have 3 games left and all three are winnable. 10 and 8 in the sec this year with 19 wins would have us on the bubble before thinking about the sec tourny. I do think if we can get to 20 then we are hard to keep out at that point. Really makes you look at a couple of the close losses and realize what could have been.
Posted on 2/21/18 at 9:33 pm to Palm Beach Tiger
That’s true. But pre-season expectation was last in the SEC. Who’d have thought that we’d not only be thinking about an NIT invitation, let alone a possible NCAAT consideration.
Geaux Tigers!
Geaux Tigers!
Posted on 2/21/18 at 9:39 pm to tigbit
7 wins vs RPI top 50 will probably help a lot.
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