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Did You Really Agree With Canada's Offense?
Posted on 12/28/17 at 4:50 pm
Posted on 12/28/17 at 4:50 pm
I honestly think that Canada's offense was a little too gimicky and just not physical enough.
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Posted on 12/28/17 at 4:55 pm to STRIPES
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I honestly think that Canada's offense was a little too gimicky and just not physical enough.
- Below average QB
- Offensive line was garbage the first half the season
- Average wide receivers
- Heisman watch RB hurt for a lot of the season
Not to mention it was his first year with personnel that was recruited over the last decade to run a 1970's offense.
I think he did pretty well all things considered.
Posted on 12/28/17 at 4:55 pm to STRIPES
His red zone play calling was terrible. No I-Formation at all.
Other than that, I liked it.
Other than that, I liked it.
Posted on 12/28/17 at 4:59 pm to STRIPES
You didn't understand it well enough.
It is designed to be very physical but it was also about creating blocking angles and getting LBs and DBs one step out of position. That is why someone like Gage (not extremely fast) could rip off nice long runs. The off tackle runs by Williams and Guice show it physicality.
After years of a very boring offensive scheme under LM, I loved seeing an innovative approach. Just wished we would have had the confidence in DE16 to fully execute Canada's passing offense the way it is designed.
It is designed to be very physical but it was also about creating blocking angles and getting LBs and DBs one step out of position. That is why someone like Gage (not extremely fast) could rip off nice long runs. The off tackle runs by Williams and Guice show it physicality.
After years of a very boring offensive scheme under LM, I loved seeing an innovative approach. Just wished we would have had the confidence in DE16 to fully execute Canada's passing offense the way it is designed.
Posted on 12/28/17 at 5:00 pm to STRIPES
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Did You Really Agree With Canada's Offense?
I mean, we never disagreed
Posted on 12/28/17 at 5:02 pm to SulphursFinest
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His red zone play calling was terrible. No I-Formation at all.
A valid criticism. Red zone production was supposed to be one of the big reasons we got him.
Posted on 12/28/17 at 5:02 pm to STRIPES
Overall, no. Certain games it seemed to work though
His offense is geared toward lower tier teams with less talent. As the line improved, his gimmicks became less needed
His offense is geared toward lower tier teams with less talent. As the line improved, his gimmicks became less needed
Posted on 12/28/17 at 5:03 pm to Tiger Voodoo
LSU has had average quarterbacks for years. He was ok. Not pissed he is leaving no big deal
Posted on 12/28/17 at 5:04 pm to STRIPES
Plays were designed to create mismatches that were exploited at times.
Many games we could see LBs hesitating before reacting later in games.
Saw some blown assignments from the 2 listed above.
Noticed defenses mostly at least respecting a pass option.
Adjustments were made throughout a game and at halftime.
There are more positives but these I listed were refreshing to see as a change from prior years. IMO there was a reason behind each and every play call. He set plays up and it was good to see the offense take some steps in the right direction. I was excited to see year 2, 3 and whatever else but we won’t get that chance.
Many games we could see LBs hesitating before reacting later in games.
Saw some blown assignments from the 2 listed above.
Noticed defenses mostly at least respecting a pass option.
Adjustments were made throughout a game and at halftime.
There are more positives but these I listed were refreshing to see as a change from prior years. IMO there was a reason behind each and every play call. He set plays up and it was good to see the offense take some steps in the right direction. I was excited to see year 2, 3 and whatever else but we won’t get that chance.
Posted on 12/28/17 at 5:04 pm to dcrews
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- Below average QB
- Offensive line was garbage the first half the season
- Average wide receivers
- Heisman watch RB hurt for a lot of the season
Not to mention it was his first year with personnel that was recruited over the last decade to run a 1970's offense.
I think he did pretty well all things considered.
Common Sense evaluation, often missed on TD
Posted on 12/28/17 at 5:04 pm to STRIPES
Hated it, honestly.
Posted on 12/28/17 at 5:06 pm to sunnydaze
I liked it and thought it would be been great with a developed Myles Brennan. Would have been unstoppable with a developed Lowell Narcisse. I'm hoping (praying) that Orgeron hits this hire out of the park because I think LSU lost a damn good offensive mind today.
Posted on 12/28/17 at 5:08 pm to STRIPES
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gimicky
This is code for “I don’t understand how a College Football Offense is run” Anything that’s not an I-Form is a gimmick to you people
Posted on 12/28/17 at 5:13 pm to Fus0623
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This is code for “I don’t understand how a College Football Offense is run” Anything that’s not an I-Form is a gimmick to you people
Exactly. Lots of subleties in it that DCs hate to prepare for during a one week game plan. Much tougher than lining up against the spread or a straight pro set.
Posted on 12/28/17 at 5:15 pm to Fus0623
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This is code for “I don’t understand how a College Football Offense is run” Anything that’s not an I-Form is a gimmick to you people
His offense is the epitome of gimmick. What else do you think pre snap movement like we saw is for?
Posted on 12/28/17 at 5:16 pm to STRIPES
Post Troy, I think it clicked, and I think next year it would have worked better if Brennan is accurate passer and a clear feature running back emerged.
If you think about it, the shifts and the jet sweep man accomplished a lot of the same things that a read option does to a defense.... doesn’t let them attack and makes the play assignment football.
I think it was our best offensive output against Bama since we had Met OBJ and Landry. He dialed up several plays in that game that had receivers running free in the secondary.
It certainly wasn’t a “failure” and showed a lot of potential down the stretch.
If you think about it, the shifts and the jet sweep man accomplished a lot of the same things that a read option does to a defense.... doesn’t let them attack and makes the play assignment football.
I think it was our best offensive output against Bama since we had Met OBJ and Landry. He dialed up several plays in that game that had receivers running free in the secondary.
It certainly wasn’t a “failure” and showed a lot of potential down the stretch.
Posted on 12/28/17 at 5:18 pm to STRIPES
agreeing or disagreeing with the offense is really unimportant at this point.
its whether or not you believe in Alleva and O to be - you know - competent
spoiler alert: they arent.
its whether or not you believe in Alleva and O to be - you know - competent
spoiler alert: they arent.
Posted on 12/28/17 at 5:18 pm to SulphursFinest
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His red zone play calling was terrible.
I agree but not for the reason of no I formation.
My disappointment was that we mostly ignored 1/2 the field by being scared to let DE16 throw over the middle. No confidence in his accuracy led up to running too much or throwing fades or other outside passes while the middle was largely ignored, with a few exceptions.
Posted on 12/28/17 at 5:20 pm to STRIPES
I thought it was more than serviceable given the personnel he was working with. I was eager to see what he could do in year 2 with Brennan and/or Narcisse and our young talented skill players. Oh well
Posted on 12/28/17 at 5:20 pm to SulphursFinest
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His red zone play calling was terrible. No I-Formation at all.
I get the red zone concerns but why would you want to see the I? Maybe we could do wishbone too?
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