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Did Orgeron really learn from his mistakes at Ole Miss?
Posted on 1/8/18 at 11:45 am
Posted on 1/8/18 at 11:45 am
Article Oct. 2016
Advocate
All sounds pretty familiar to me.
Advocate
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When I was a first-time head coach, I wanted to run the USC system,” Orgeron said at his weekly press luncheon Monday. “I loved the USC offense. And Noel Mazzone was my coordinator. And I forced the USC offense on him, and he didn’t know it well. Obviously, he’s a very successful offensive coordinator today (at Texas A&M). So, I thought that was a mistake on my part.
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“I wanted to do everything,” he said recently. “Coach the quarterbacks, the receivers, and I didn’t know anything about them. But I wanted to do it my way. And I learned about that.”
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That was a great opportunity for me,” Orgeron said Monday. “I mean, that’s a good job. But I didn’t do well, and I didn’t like it. I was mad at myself. The techniques that I used to create some of the best defensive lines in the country did not work as a head coach. You’ve got to look at yourself in the mirror. I’m the only person that can change me. So I had to get out of that mode and get more into the head coach role and delegate, and not be the hard butt on the staff.
All sounds pretty familiar to me.
This post was edited on 1/8/18 at 11:46 am
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Posted on 1/8/18 at 11:46 am to KLSU
Lol no
Posted on 1/8/18 at 11:47 am to KLSU
His actions are betraying his words
imagine that
imagine that
Posted on 1/8/18 at 11:49 am to KLSU
No.
That is very clear. People who thought he would are foolish.
That is very clear. People who thought he would are foolish.
Posted on 1/8/18 at 11:51 am to TheCaterpillar
Everyone learns from their mistakes, does that mean that he will do things as you think they should be done , no.
Posted on 1/8/18 at 11:53 am to KLSU
He also didn't learn from Miles' mistakes, which is even more dumbfounding.
It's really hard to believe that this is the current state of LSU football.
It's really hard to believe that this is the current state of LSU football.
Posted on 1/8/18 at 11:54 am to Grit-Eating Shin
No.
And there was never any proof.
And this.
O's career as a DL coach, and a failure of a HC should tell people that he has never learned much at all. If he did, he would have promotions, HC experience in a variety of locations. Proven execution at a high level. Smart people hire smart people who are improving themselves...
And there was never any proof.
quote:
He also didn't learn from Miles' mistakes, which is even more dumbfounding.
And this.
O's career as a DL coach, and a failure of a HC should tell people that he has never learned much at all. If he did, he would have promotions, HC experience in a variety of locations. Proven execution at a high level. Smart people hire smart people who are improving themselves...
Posted on 1/8/18 at 11:55 am to rbdallas
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Everyone learns from their mistakes
What? Prisons across the world are full of repeat offenders that prove this statement false.
Posted on 1/8/18 at 11:57 am to KLSU
3-21 in sec at ole miss
10-4 in sec at LSU
10-4 in sec at LSU
Posted on 1/8/18 at 12:01 pm to KLSU
Orgeron lied his arse off to get this job and that's now becoming obvious. He had no intention of ever just letting any offensive coordinator (with the exception of Kiffin) fully install anything other than the offense that he likes. He wouldn't have messed with Kiffin because I think that's the offense he wants, but even Kiffin and his huge arse ego let someone run a different offense under him. He's not fricking with the defense because he knows Aranda is untouchable at LSU and he would get his arse fired immediately if he tries to undermine Dave. Just my opinion obviously but it seems pretty evident that's the type of stuff going on. Orgeron has a huge ego and he wants his ideas to be right to feed that ego and he'll go to whatever lengths he has to do it. Even if it means he gets fired over it. He knows he's got that buy out and he won't really do anything to allow them to fire him with cause.
Posted on 1/8/18 at 12:01 pm to TheCaterpillar
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No.
That is very clear. People who thought he would are foolish.
And
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He also didn't learn from Miles' mistakes, which is even more dumbfounding.
Posted on 1/8/18 at 12:03 pm to Topwater Trout
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10-4 in sec at LSU
Should be noted that this was accomplished during two of the worst seasons defensively in the SEC and more notably in the second season where 5 teams fired their coaches.
Posted on 1/8/18 at 12:05 pm to KLSU
It's hard for people to change their stripes no matter how much we try. A man in his 40s and 50s is unlikely to change his ways ... we are who we are.
There's a reason why history tends to repeat itself.
There's a reason why history tends to repeat itself.
This post was edited on 1/8/18 at 12:06 pm
Posted on 1/8/18 at 12:10 pm to JustSmokin
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It's hard for people to change their stripes no matter how much we try. A man in his 40s and 50s is unlikely to change his ways ... we are who we are.
I tried telling people this.
Posted on 1/8/18 at 12:12 pm to Topwater Trout
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10-4 in sec at LSU
Oh, we want to act like he doesn't have half the amount of those losses from outside the SEC?
Posted on 1/8/18 at 12:17 pm to KLSU
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All sounds pretty familiar to me.
Like this topic?
Posted on 1/8/18 at 12:19 pm to League Champs
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Oh, we want to act like he doesn't have half the amount of those losses from outside the SEC?
its a comparison showing his sec record at ole miss (terrible) and his sec record at lsu (not bad)
Posted on 1/8/18 at 12:21 pm to KLSU
“I’m going to hire the best coordinators and let the coaches coach”
Not so much, O
Not so much, O
Posted on 1/8/18 at 12:21 pm to KLSU
You don’t have a hair in your nut sack if you don’t send that to him via Twitter. Lol.
Posted on 1/8/18 at 12:21 pm to KLSU
Oh he learned… Bigger buy out
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