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re: Did Alabama outplay LSU ? Every Bama fan I talk to says this.
Posted on 11/10/11 at 10:07 am to TigerstuckinMS
Posted on 11/10/11 at 10:07 am to TigerstuckinMS
This has got to be the worst argument I've ever seen on this site.
LSU outplayed the Tide and won the game 9-6
Therefore the Tigers outplayed the Tide. There isn't any argument. The score is the only fuxking argument. 9-6. Suck it gumps
LSU outplayed the Tide and won the game 9-6
Therefore the Tigers outplayed the Tide. There isn't any argument. The score is the only fuxking argument. 9-6. Suck it gumps
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Posted on 11/10/11 at 10:18 am to theunknownknight
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We played better when it counted
It ALL counts. WTF?
Look, you're generally a good poster, but it's obvious you're in the majority of people who viewed the game from a casual observer crowd.
No big deal. You can still enjoy it. My wife occasionally goes to games and has a good time, too.
F*** what if's. I know what happened on every play. I watched it in person. I viewed it twice as it played on TV, and I'm finished breaking it down play by play through 3 minutes left in the first half. I do this while riding a stationary bike an hour a night, but would probably do it regardless, because it's a passion of mine.
If you know any coaches, or anyone with a good grasp of schematics, ask them if LSU was outplayed. Alabama had the best player, the better front seven on D, and a home field, and lost, with a fairly even stat line for both sides. Neither team dominated the LOS in this game, or should I say both dominated the LOS at the same time.
Posted on 11/10/11 at 10:31 am to wahoocs
If your defense does not allow the opponent score touchdowns, a team must not allow them close enough to kick field goals. Looks like Bama let us get to close!
In contrast, the Tigers kept Bama out of the end zone AND out of field goal range for their kicker(s).
Not really uncommon for tough SEC defensive battles like the late 50s, 60s and 70s.
So, as one imminent philosopher once said:
“If if’s and but’s were candy and nuts, we would all have a Merry Christmas”
Dandy Don Meredith
In contrast, the Tigers kept Bama out of the end zone AND out of field goal range for their kicker(s).
Not really uncommon for tough SEC defensive battles like the late 50s, 60s and 70s.
So, as one imminent philosopher once said:
“If if’s and but’s were candy and nuts, we would all have a Merry Christmas”
Dandy Don Meredith
Posted on 11/10/11 at 10:32 am to wahoocs
I dont care who 'outplayed' whom.
LSU scored the most points.
Everyone has seen one team REALLY dominate an other, in a way that neither LSU nor Bama did in this one, and the team that was dominated WINS ANYWAY. It happens nearly every week in football.
the only thing that counts is the final score.
NOT how the game went. NOT who looked good. None of that eye test stuff. ONLY the score - when the game is over.
LSU scored the most points.
Everyone has seen one team REALLY dominate an other, in a way that neither LSU nor Bama did in this one, and the team that was dominated WINS ANYWAY. It happens nearly every week in football.
the only thing that counts is the final score.
NOT how the game went. NOT who looked good. None of that eye test stuff. ONLY the score - when the game is over.
Posted on 11/10/11 at 10:38 am to ottothewise
Agree 100%. I always say, who gives a shite who is best. I only care about who wins. The game isn't about who is best it is about who wins.
Ex. If WK beats LSU will there be anyone on earth that thinks they are the better team? No. So we get the W right? Nope the team that scores the most points wins and that is all that matters.
More proof that football isn't about who is better. Lets assume that team A goes undefeated and is playing in the NC game. Then the entire team other than say 11 redshirt freshman get arrested for murder. Does that team still play for the NC? Yes! Does anyone on earth think they are better than the number 2 opponent or any other team in the top 10. NOPE! But they play for the NC not because of how good they are but because they won.
Ex. If WK beats LSU will there be anyone on earth that thinks they are the better team? No. So we get the W right? Nope the team that scores the most points wins and that is all that matters.
More proof that football isn't about who is better. Lets assume that team A goes undefeated and is playing in the NC game. Then the entire team other than say 11 redshirt freshman get arrested for murder. Does that team still play for the NC? Yes! Does anyone on earth think they are better than the number 2 opponent or any other team in the top 10. NOPE! But they play for the NC not because of how good they are but because they won.
Posted on 11/10/11 at 10:43 am to theunknownknight
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Also let's totally ignore BAMA going for 200 yards through the air compared to our 91
In a 9-6 game, this is a sure sign from a coaches' perspective that one team was not able to get the yardage that results in scoring opportunities.
Just for fun, go take a look at the stats from the '06 Auburn game. Our inability to gain yards on the ground, primarily from the QB position, allowed Tuberville to dedicate an extra defender in both pass and run coverage.
Why do you think with the arm of Mettenberger we recruited mobile QB's? From the '06 Tennessee game on, we have had a running threat at the QB position in games versus elite SEC defenses. Miles knows what he's doing. The '05 and '06 seasons showed him all he needs to know.
Posted on 11/10/11 at 10:52 am to omegaman66
What the Sabama gumps don't seem to understand is there is room for our team to improve in the next game if there is one.
We drop a pass in the end zone when Ruben can't make the tough catch. JJ doesn't make the best throw to Shepard otherwise that should have been a touchdown. Two interecptions. JJ is a better quarterback against Sabama than their quarterback is against us.
Two or three blown coverages on running back passes by our defense.
We can beat Sabama if we play them in the Dome. They had the most favorable situation possible at home to win the game and they screwed it up, but we clean up our act and we can beat them again by
more than 3 points.
We drop a pass in the end zone when Ruben can't make the tough catch. JJ doesn't make the best throw to Shepard otherwise that should have been a touchdown. Two interecptions. JJ is a better quarterback against Sabama than their quarterback is against us.
Two or three blown coverages on running back passes by our defense.
We can beat Sabama if we play them in the Dome. They had the most favorable situation possible at home to win the game and they screwed it up, but we clean up our act and we can beat them again by
more than 3 points.
Posted on 11/10/11 at 10:58 am to bpope
Nope. Stats were amazingly even, favored Bama slightly (except special teams). Richardson had modest running yards, good receiving yardage, he's their entire offense. Any objective view would have to conclude these were two great, evenly matched teams that would split a 10 game series 5-5 or 6-4.
Posted on 11/10/11 at 10:59 am to bpope
No.
Sure, Bama made some mistakes and could have played better. But, LSU can say the same thing.
In my opinion (and I only watched the game once, and have not looked at the stats) it was a pretty evenly matched game on offense and defense, but special teams was no contest.
For 60 minutes, it was an even game. But in OT, LSU outplayed Bama (obviously).
LSU is the more complete team and that's why they won.
Sure, Bama made some mistakes and could have played better. But, LSU can say the same thing.
In my opinion (and I only watched the game once, and have not looked at the stats) it was a pretty evenly matched game on offense and defense, but special teams was no contest.
For 60 minutes, it was an even game. But in OT, LSU outplayed Bama (obviously).
LSU is the more complete team and that's why they won.
Posted on 11/10/11 at 11:02 am to HogTusks
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Bama did outplay LSU. They had four missed field goals and a controversial interception at the 1 yard line. I was pulling for LSU and glad you all won the game, but Bama did indeed outplay you. With a rematch, Bama rolls (honestly not flaming).
Posted on 11/10/11 at 11:05 am to theunknownknight
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Lee plays for LSU genius. And the last time I checked, no one forced Saban to call the Maze pass to the one yard line. And AJ had another interception himself. You remove all interceptions and BAMA might have the advantage bc the LSU INT might have prevented a BAMA touchdown.
If you remove all the INTs - then why wouldn't LEE have marched down the field?
If you remove the LSU INT that prevented the Bama touchdown - I assume you are also removing that play - in which case they are punting or going for another 50 yard FG.
This is why I can't stand the Rant. People can't reason past their noses.
Posted on 11/10/11 at 11:08 am to theunknownknight
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Finally someone who can actually think
Ironically known as "poodlebrain"
Posted on 11/10/11 at 11:10 am to theunknownknight
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Also let's totally ignore BAMA going for 200 yards through the air compared to our 91. We won, that is enough.
By that measure - WVU won enough credit to get a win over LSU for the next 2 games as well.
The LSU D is an aggressive opportunistic D - they don't mind the yards - as long as they reap the rewards - as was shown by the two interceptions by Claiborne and Reid - neither of which were gifts.
Posted on 11/10/11 at 11:12 am to Topwater Trout
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Also how many yards did bama gain on busted coverages....is blowing an assignment on a play considered being outplayed? I don't think so.
Yes. It is. Missing field goals is also being outplayed. You can be outplayed because you played well and the other guys played better or because the other guys played badly and you played worse.
Posted on 11/10/11 at 11:12 am to Tiger_n_ATL
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Just think if that kicker had even just 'lucked up' and made ONE of those field goals, it would have been a 9-6 win in regulation by Bama, so in retrospect it wasn't that 'stupid' but it was a gamble.
We can play the -if the kicker can make it game if we can also do the what if Lee had not thrown the INT or Randle caught the TD game
Posted on 11/10/11 at 11:15 am to Tiger_n_ATL
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if that kicker had even just 'lucked up' and made ONE of those field goals, it would have been a 9-6 win in regulation by Bama
bullshite! If Bama scored 9 LSU would have scored 10. If Bama scored 50 LSU would have scored 51. The result of those field goal attempts affected the rest of the game. It affected strategy, and it affected effort for both teams.
Posted on 11/10/11 at 11:22 am to Penrod
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bullshite! If Bama scored 9 LSU would have scored 10. If Bama scored 50 LSU would have scored 51. The result of those field goal attempts affected the rest of the game. It affected strategy, and it affected effort for both teams.
Zigackly correct.
Posted on 11/10/11 at 11:26 am to bpope
bama never losses. the other team just gets lucky. they've been thinking and saying this forever. we beat their butts, again. that's 10 out of the last 12, 5 of the last 6 in bama and miles has beaten lil nicky 3 of the last 5.
Posted on 11/10/11 at 11:28 am to km
It's hard to believe this thread has persisted so long.
Did Alabama outscore LSU?
No.
All else is a waste of bandwidth.
Did Alabama outscore LSU?
No.
All else is a waste of bandwidth.
Posted on 11/10/11 at 11:28 am to Penrod
Bama got the ball within FG range (if you can call it that) 6 times during the game in regulation
LSU got the ball within Bama's 42 yard line 5 times, twice being taken out of FG range due to senseless penalties that Bama didn't cause.
LSU is the only one who got inside the 10 (and actually all the way to the 2 yard line). Bama didn't sniff the endzone all night long.
It was a wash. It was as evenly played as you can get.
LSU got the ball within Bama's 42 yard line 5 times, twice being taken out of FG range due to senseless penalties that Bama didn't cause.
LSU is the only one who got inside the 10 (and actually all the way to the 2 yard line). Bama didn't sniff the endzone all night long.
It was a wash. It was as evenly played as you can get.
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