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re: Defense improvements across the SEC
Posted on 10/18/20 at 12:14 pm to bfniii
Posted on 10/18/20 at 12:14 pm to bfniii
quote:
did you watch the game?
Yes but did you watch?
quote:
matt corral was kj costello/guarantano bad in that game
And there was a reason he was that bad. It wasn't because he just had a bad game. The Arkansas defensive game plan fooled him over & over again.
People like you only look at or understand the effect while totally missing out on the cause. The cause of Corral's bad game was due to Arkansas mixing up their coverages pre & post snap. They would show Corral one look pre snap then jump into a different look post snap. It was a great game plan, coaching & execution to fool Corral the way they did. They forced him into having a bad game.
Posted on 10/18/20 at 12:29 pm to Fat Bastard
Bama made Coral, and Florida made Mond, appear to be Heisman finalists.
Posted on 10/18/20 at 12:33 pm to Datbayoubengal
I wouldn’t be surprised if Arkansas finishes second in the west
Posted on 10/18/20 at 12:43 pm to jbird7
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I wouldn’t be surprised if Arkansas finishes second in the west
They got robbed against Auburn & should be 3-1.
Posted on 10/18/20 at 2:59 pm to bfniii
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again, did you watch the game? matt corral was kj costello/guarantano bad in that game
i totally agree ark is "improved" from where they were last year. last year they hadn't won an sec game in forever. there was nowhere to go but up. but i wouldn't say their defense is anywhere near good.
Yes that was great defense, did you watch the game? They played deep coverage to keep the long passes Ole Miss has been killing teams with, away. I saw several times where they baited the QB and eyed down where he was going.
From a statistical standpoint, you're telling me what they did on defense had nothing to do with him completing less than 53% of his passes at 5.3 ypa, and throwing 6 ints? A guy who, prior to that game, was 4th in the country in yards, with 76% completion and 9 TDs to just 1 int, and an insane 12.3 ypa average (which was second only to Mac Jones at Bama with his unfair WR advantage).
Honestly it's high grade bullshite that the ref blew that game for them vs Auburn. That team in one year has made a dramatic turn around while changing their QB and entire coaching staff.
Posted on 10/18/20 at 5:43 pm to Datbayoubengal
Posted on 10/18/20 at 7:24 pm to BigBrod81
quote:ark did not make corral throw the ball all over the yard. corral did that on his own. he was horrible. if he had been decent, ole miss wins comfortably
That's because Arkansas' defensive game plan was absolutely brilliant
quote:you might want to take your own advice. corral was missing wide open wr's the entire game.
Try watching the games before spewing nonsense like this
quote:eh. they didn't look good against a bumbling auburn offense. but they certainly aren't the worst in the conference
Kentucky's defense has been good so far this season
quote:state went multiple games without scoring and then only got one offensive score against aggie. it wasn't uk. it was state
At least they kept State out of endzone for the entire game too
the notion that defenses are "improving" is pretty misleading. even bama is now routinely giving up 24 points or more at home.
Posted on 10/18/20 at 7:25 pm to BigBrod81
quote:yes it was. totally. it's not like ark has been good in other games either. you're missing the big picture
It wasn't because he just had a bad game
quote:ok.
They forced him into having a bad game
Posted on 10/18/20 at 7:30 pm to bfniii
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kj Costello
You mean the sec record holder for passing yards in a game KJ Costello, who apparently can’t figure out how to not be dog shite bad against zone? That guy?
Posted on 10/18/20 at 7:31 pm to Datbayoubengal
quote:the entire game
did you watch the game?
quote:pretty much yes. in fact, corral says the same thing in his comments. he explained precisely what they were doing and admitted he just didn't make the adjustments he should have.
you're telling me what they did on defense had nothing to do with him completing less than 53% of his passes at 5.3 ypa, and throwing 6 ints?
quote:you know even the best players have bad days? shocking, i know
A guy who, prior to that game, was 4th in the country in yards, with 76% completion and 9 TDs to just 1 int, and an insane 12.3 ypa average
Posted on 10/18/20 at 7:40 pm to King
quote:exactly what i saying. he recognized specifically what they were doing. he just didn't have a good day. it happens. i think the state game is confusing people about ark's d. i'm not saying they won't improve. i'm not saying ark won't end up 2nd in the west. i'm saying nothing so far suggests ark's d is good. state's o came back down to earth and corral had a horrible game.
Corral's post game comments
defense in the conference is not improving noticeably. this past weekend was more of the same. most of the sec offenses are really clicking, good play calling and adjustments, good game plans and plenty of weapons. auburn is a great example. their offense is sputtering and even in an inconsistent effort they put up 22 on the road against muschamp who has a good rep defensively. it's just a different era now.
Posted on 10/18/20 at 7:51 pm to Oilfieldbiology
quote:how does this make the point that ark's d is improving or that defense across the conference is improving? it does just the opposite.
You mean the sec record holder for passing yards in a game KJ Costello, who apparently can’t figure out how to not be dog shite bad against zone? That guy?
i get the point. other teams are figuring it out except lsu. but it doesn't hold water. EVERYBODY is struggling. yes, lsu seems to be worse off. no doubt. hopefully lsu can start to make some improvements. pelini can't make players tackle or cover a wr. the players have to execute and they certainly are not doing that. everyone wants to blame man coverage but, no dback is confused about what to do in man. they just need to make it happen. that's not a scheme problem. the front 7 knows what to do on running plays. they aren't covering gaps and they're not shedding blocks.
Posted on 10/18/20 at 10:06 pm to 72Tigah
Lodi g the opt outs etc has hurt the team. Throw in Pellini and you have a mob known as the LSU defense
Posted on 10/18/20 at 10:10 pm to BigBrod81
Kentucky’s defense looks legit. Had the Tennessee qb lost and confused Saturday
Posted on 10/18/20 at 10:24 pm to bfniii
You’re making “0” sense stop posting
Posted on 10/18/20 at 10:30 pm to ELchapoLSU
i explained everything clearly. go watch corral's post game comments. it might help you get a clue as to what i was saying
i swear, you seagull people. you swoop in, poop on something and then fly away without explaining yourself.
i swear, you seagull people. you swoop in, poop on something and then fly away without explaining yourself.
This post was edited on 10/18/20 at 10:31 pm
Posted on 10/18/20 at 10:33 pm to bfniii
If the problem is that the players aren’t playing hard or they don’t care, that’s a head coaching problem.
Posted on 10/18/20 at 10:39 pm to bfniii
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i swear, you seagull people. you swoop in, poop on something and then fly away without explaining yourself.
Your post are shite & not worth replying to. Corral clearly said that Arkansas showed those same coverages on film before yet they had never had underneath defenders under cut routes the way they did against him on Saturday.
This post was edited on 10/18/20 at 10:46 pm
Posted on 10/18/20 at 10:43 pm to abellsujr
quote:oh i don't disagree ultimately. the buck stops with the coaches. no doubt. the formula isn't working right now. i want to have optimism based on o's track record that he will make the necessary changes. my question is if pelini might be a bit out of touch regarding the latest offenses. only time will tell. it just seems hard to believe that not only has pelini kept his head in the sand but, lsu's enormous cadre of analysts and shadow staff are going to be ineffective
If the problem is that the players aren’t playing hard or they don’t care, that’s a head coaching problem
Posted on 10/18/20 at 10:46 pm to BigBrod81
quote:ok champ. let the grown ups know when you're ready to stop acting like a teenage girl bitch
Your post are shite & not worth replying to
quote:you're contradicting your own point. he recognized precisely what they were doing and he failed to adjust. he clearly said he knew what to do but didn't do it. for some reason, you didn't finish his quote. notice what he didn't say - i couldn't recognize what they were doing and it confused me/us.
Corral clearly said that Arkansas showed those same coverages on film before yet they had never underneath defenders under cut routes the way they did against him on Saturday
look, if you watched the game, you saw corral missing open wr's. it's that simple. either you saw that or you're stupid. which is it
not only that, you're forgetting that ark hasn't looked great against auburn and uga as well.
This post was edited on 10/18/20 at 10:48 pm
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