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re: Crowton says "No, it wasn't my offense"
Posted on 8/29/11 at 9:21 am to theunknownknight
Posted on 8/29/11 at 9:21 am to theunknownknight
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delusional when it comes to Miles that he has made an arbitrary and capricious distinction between the football team and its performance to alleviate Miles of his responsibility
Miles detractors have been seperating the performance (W-L record) for 6 years. Just today alone:
1.) Miles hindered the O
2.) Miles allegiance to JJ hindered team.
3.) Miles is too lenient.
4.) Miles clock management
5.) Miles lets teams hang around doesnt dominate.
You see, folks like Choctaw get so damn tired of this garbage because he DOES see the success of the TEAM under Miles. It is the detractors such as yourself that try to pick out weakness within CONSTANTLY.
You just dont like the dude.
Name me the coach that LSU 1) Could get 2) is guaranteed to do better.
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Posted on 8/29/11 at 9:21 am to ForeLSU
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I would say Les took responsibility, he fired Crowton...
I was gonna say this but it seemed so obvious.
My main complaint against Les is he takes too long to make a change when it's needed. We knew the change was needed at least a year before it was made.
Posted on 8/29/11 at 9:24 am to tigerfoot
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Name me the coach that LSU 1) Could get 2) is guaranteed to do better.
Questions like that are when the ranter come out of the woodwork:
Patterson
Meyer
Saban
Gruden
Belichick
etc etc
Posted on 8/29/11 at 9:25 am to theunknownknight
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That's not taking responsibility. That's passing the buck.
being a coordinator must be the easiest job in America. whenever you suck you can just blame other people. Crowton is the Obama of college football.
Posted on 8/29/11 at 9:25 am to Camp Randall
You forgot DelRio. (he is the cornerstone...and hell, he will be the DC(is Buddy Ryan still alive))
And Jerry Rice for receiver coach.
And Jerry Rice for receiver coach.
Posted on 8/29/11 at 9:26 am to Choctaw
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the logic that Miles deserves all the blame?
Which is logic you deciphered via poor reasoning. What I stated was a first-order enthymeme because I assumed the obvious. I guess I'm to blame that you have trouble seeing the obvious.
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quit reaching son...you're embarrassing yourself.
ok
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i've never once said Miles wasn't to blame for any of the issues this team has had.
There you go making up arguments again. I never said you didn't blame Miles for ANY of the issues on the team. Did I mention discipline, recruiting, practice, conditioning, etc? I'm specifically talking about the offense.
What you did do was make a curious distinction between the football team as a concept and the teams performance on the field to alleviate Mile's taking the ultimate responsibility. Why would you do that?
Posted on 8/29/11 at 9:28 am to tigerfoot
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You see, folks like Choctaw get so damn tired of this garbage because he DOES see the success of the TEAM under Miles. It is the detractors such as yourself that try to pick out weakness within CONSTANTLY.
When TEAM success is built on poor PERFORMANCE, that success is nothing more than a House of Cards waiting to collapse.
Posted on 8/29/11 at 9:28 am to theunknownknight
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To that we all agree. But that begs the question: If Les took responsibility at the end of the season by firing Crowton, where was Les DURING the season?
he was keeping Crowton from running flea-flickers inside LSU's 5 yard line in order to try to get to the end of the season with 1 or 2 losses. You don't make strategic, program-wide changes during a season when you're winning games, you wait until the end of the year. You make tactical changes to manage around your strengths and weaknesses.
Posted on 8/29/11 at 9:29 am to theunknownknight
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Did I mention discipline, recruiting, practice, conditioning, etc? I'm specifically talking about the offense.
You are off the charts now.
How does a team with such terrible managment of ALL aspects it appears win 61 games in 6 years, and by most accounts is in the BCS title talk for the next 2 years at least.
We are talking divine freaking intervention it seems.
Posted on 8/29/11 at 9:30 am to theunknownknight
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What you did do was make a curious distinction between the football team as a concept and the teams performance on the field to alleviate Mile's taking the ultimate responsibility.
Jesus Christ...WTF are you talking about??? I said Miles' responsibility is the team...isn't that the ultimate responsibility??
Just stop...we get it. You don't like Miles and will never give him credit...but don't just jump in a thread a start making up shite up out of thin air. its amateurish...and you're no longer worth responding too.
Posted on 8/29/11 at 9:30 am to theunknownknight
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that success is nothing more than a House of Cards waiting to collapse.
OHHHHH...I see now.
Your knee jerk bitching is surrounded by future failures. shite that is GONNA happen.
Posted on 8/29/11 at 9:30 am to ForeLSU
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he was keeping Crowton from running flea-flickers inside LSU's 5 yard line in order to try to get to the end of the season with 1 or 2 losses. You don't make strategic, program-wide changes during a season when you're winning games, you wait until the end of the year. You make tactical changes to manage around your strengths and weaknesses.
I'm curious why Les never saw these issues the year before when we were ranked 112th in total offense? Again, why did Les wait?
Posted on 8/29/11 at 9:31 am to tigerfoot
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Your knee jerk bitching is surrounded by future failures. shite that is GONNA happen.
So you're ok with an offense that is ranked 110th in the country?
Posted on 8/29/11 at 9:32 am to Choctaw
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and you're no longer worth responding too.
Choctaw..you are more positive than me. But we agree on this one.
By the way, we are going to hell in a handbasket...just you wait and see. ranter slogan since 2008!!
Posted on 8/29/11 at 9:32 am to tigerfoot
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You are off the charts now.
How does a team with such terrible managment of ALL aspects it appears win 61 games in 6 years, and by most accounts is in the BCS title talk for the next 2 years at least.
We are talking divine freaking intervention it seems.
I have no idea what you are responding to here other than to say you apparently have horrible reading comprehension.
Posted on 8/29/11 at 9:34 am to Choctaw
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WTF are you talking about???
I said Miles' responsibility is the team...isn't that the ultimate responsibility??
Just stop...we get it. You don't like Miles and will never give him credit...but don't just jump in a thread a start making up shite up out of thin air. its amateurish...and you're no longer worth responding too.
So much irony.
HAVE A GREAT DAY!
Posted on 8/29/11 at 9:35 am to theunknownknight
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Again, why did Les wait?
I don't know, and if you saw my post earlier, I clearly stated he was to blame for not firing him a year earlier. It was reported he interviewed a couple of candidates, maybe he didn't like what he heard. It's possible he wanted Kragthorpe, but Kragthorpe was still dealing with his wife's issues so he waited a year. There were also the rumors that Alleva wouldn't let him fire Crowton because of the buyout.
Posted on 8/29/11 at 9:36 am to theunknownknight
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So you're ok with an offense that is ranked 110th in the country?
Of course not. I also see it as a miracle that we won the games we did. I was amazed at our ability to play D and have always thought our ST were not given enough credit. Components of the team.
That is why I was hoping Miles would do something about it. Just as he did with the DC position. Bad D now Good D. See how it works. That is what a program manager does.
EVERY good coach goes through coordinators.
This is not the NFL with free agency. Gaps appear in teams that are not forseeable, no mid season trades...you got to ride it out. We have ridden it out very well, and show no signs of not being a top ten team over the next 2-3 years.
What the hell do you want? Perfection? It does not exist. Anywhere.
Posted on 8/29/11 at 9:38 am to theunknownknight
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So you're ok with an offense that is ranked 110th in the country?
if you're going to spew shite, at least get the numbers right...86th in total offense, 45th in scoring offense, 28th in rushing offense, 107th in passing offense
Posted on 8/29/11 at 9:38 am to Adam Banks
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when did we run the pistol before he was here.....thats what i thought
You mean the one that went for 75 yes. Bs VaTech?
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