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re: College Baseball Polls (March 20th)

Posted on 3/20/17 at 10:02 am to
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 3/20/17 at 10:02 am to
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So we should ignore the Friday game and just take the other two games into consideration for evaluating how the team did during the series?



Yes.
No, thanks.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43788 posts
Posted on 3/20/17 at 10:07 am to
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No, thanks.


He specifically said they didn't play well Saturday and Sunday. Using Friday's numbers doesn't change that one way or the other.

Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126921 posts
Posted on 3/20/17 at 10:12 am to
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this is the worst SEC series we'll have this year outside of maybe Alabama...and we didn't play that well in it.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43788 posts
Posted on 3/20/17 at 10:13 am to
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We didn't play well at all Saturday or Sunday and still won


Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
35862 posts
Posted on 3/20/17 at 10:18 am to
It is hard to look good when opposing pitchers are all over the place, throwing balls to the backstop, hitting batters and walking batters.

Hitters have a tough time digging in, and getting an idea of how they are being pitched when pitchers are bad.

Hitters tend to take a lot in these kind of games. for instance if the pitcher has hit or walked the batters ahead of you, I doubt many hitters are going to swing until they get a strike. They become passive, and less aggressive.

I would have like a few more clutch hits, but I can understand why we didn't see more of them.
Posted by JS87
Member since Aug 2010
16643 posts
Posted on 3/20/17 at 10:20 am to
My how far Texas A&M has fallen from grace.
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 3/20/17 at 10:20 am to
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We dropped from 8 to 17 after sweeping UGA this weekend


I think we had already dropped to 15 after the loss to UNO, before the weekend.
Posted by dboyback
baton rouge
Member since Jul 2013
1579 posts
Posted on 3/20/17 at 10:27 am to
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We didn't play well at all Saturday


I thought Poche pitched saturday and we won 5-1.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
70059 posts
Posted on 3/20/17 at 10:34 am to
Poche pitched well enough for us to beat a lot of teams. We also had around a .368 OBP on Saturday. We may not have gotten a lot of hits, but we were still getting on base. People have already spoken to the difficulty as a hitter of getting into a groove with an erratic pitcher or pitchers on the mound.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43788 posts
Posted on 3/20/17 at 10:41 am to
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I thought Poche pitched saturday and we won 5-1.


He wasn't particularly sharp but he did an awesome pitching out of jams.
Posted by Cajun8
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2008
785 posts
Posted on 3/20/17 at 10:48 am to
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ULL rpi 67
Record 11-6
Top 15?
Don't get it....


It's because our RPI was so negatively affected by sweeping a 3 game series vs. Saint Peters. After we play Houston on Tuesday, and if we win, the calculation shows our RPI ranking to be around #15 by Wednesday. It just goes to show you that you can't put much stock into RPI in the first third of the season. It doesn't mean anything until the second half of the season.

And to answer your question, the Cajuns are ranked because of our pitching staff and more specifically our weekend rotation. Pitching carries us every year, and this year is no different.

Team Pitching Stats to date:
ERA 2.93 (#26 Nationally)
Record 11-6
Shutouts 5 (#5 Nationally)
Saves 7
Innings Pitched 159.2
Strikeouts 192 (#4 Nationally)
Opponents Batting Avg .189
WHIP 1.01 (#4 Nationally)

Ultimately, pitching and defense has us ranked, and offense is lagging behind.
This post was edited on 3/20/17 at 10:56 am
Posted by TigerCub
Team Boxtard
Member since May 2006
20167 posts
Posted on 3/20/17 at 10:53 am to
Added Collegiate Baseball. Missouri jumps from 23 to 5 in one week
Posted by Cajun8
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2008
785 posts
Posted on 3/20/17 at 10:56 am to
Wow, LOL! Collegiate Baseball has become such a joke! They have so much fluctuation every single week. Completely ridiculous.
Posted by TigerCub
Team Boxtard
Member since May 2006
20167 posts
Posted on 3/20/17 at 10:59 am to
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Wow, LOL! Collegiate Baseball has become such a joke! They have so much fluctuation every single week. Completely ridiculous.


They really are the worst of all the polls.
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 3/20/17 at 11:14 am to
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RPI kinda sucks


RPI ratings are pretty much bullshite at any time, but especially early in the season.

That said, I suspect that a couple of reasons for our poor RPI are

1- 11 of our 20 games (LC doesn't count) have been vs. teams outside the top 100 in RPI. Four have been 200 or worse. Fortunately, at least we are 11-0 in those games, but they still hurt our RPI. Only four of our games have been against top 50 teams, and we are 1-3 in those four.

2- 15 of our 20 games have been at home, and only two have been true road games. RPI penalizes you for playing at home, win or lose, rewards you for winning on the road and punishes you less for losing on the road. We have lost both of our road games, so we have not been rewarded for a road win yet.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64451 posts
Posted on 3/20/17 at 11:23 am to
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It's because our RPI was so negatively affected by sweeping a 3 game series vs. Saint Peters. After we play Houston on Tuesday, and if we win, the calculation shows our RPI ranking to be around #15 by Wednesday. It just goes to show you that you can't put much stock into RPI in the first third of the season. It doesn't mean anything until the second half of the season.


no way Lafayette gets a 52 spot bump for one midweek game, regardless of who you play. I'm not sure where you're seeing that calculation, but that's not going to happen.
Posted by Cajun8
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2008
785 posts
Posted on 3/20/17 at 11:37 am to
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no way Lafayette gets a 52 spot bump for one midweek game, regardless of who you play. I'm not sure where you're seeing that calculation, but that's not going to happen.


Yea you're right. I totally misread the info I was looking at. What I meant to say was if Saint Peters wins their double header on Tuesday, it would make our RPI jump up to #15. Only because Saint Peters is currently 0-4 and that record is being multiplied by a factor of 3 because we played them 3 times. Here is the exact quote from the poster who is the RPI guru on another board.

"A Saint Peter's doubleheader win over Albany on Tuesday would take the Cajuns' RPI where they are now (.55080) and move it to .61261 (excluding all other results) ... good for a #15 RPI ranking. Splitting the doubleheader would result in a Cajuns' RPI of .58173 (good for a #38 ranking).

A Saint Peter's doubleheader sweep Tuesday over Albany and a Cajun win over Houston would yield a Cajuns' RPI of .62099 (#11 ranking)."

The guy who posts about this stuff is a math guru and keeps all of the calculations in a spreadsheet and has even corrected Warren Nolan's calculations in the past and Warren Nolan fixed it on his site afterwards. He's the same as Boyd's World or Warren Nolan, he just doesn't have a website like they do.
This post was edited on 3/20/17 at 11:40 am
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64451 posts
Posted on 3/20/17 at 11:59 am to
So this also is discarding all other results as well?
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
23978 posts
Posted on 3/20/17 at 12:03 pm to
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This is misleading and you know it.


Agreed. That's a mean of 11 runs per game, but the standard deviation is +/- 9 runs on top of that. Average runs is not really a useful metric whenever you have such a large outlier (22) with so few data points.
Posted by tss22h8
30.4 N 90.9 W
Member since Jan 2007
18657 posts
Posted on 3/20/17 at 12:04 pm to
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After this weekend, how are we not leading the world in HBP?
We're tied for 9th in D-1

Jawja is tied for 18th in hit batters (D-1)

La. Tech is leading D-1 in HBP and they haven't even played UGA.
This post was edited on 3/20/17 at 12:07 pm
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