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re: Coach Mainieri says LSU fans will hate the new "dead" bats

Posted on 10/20/10 at 8:14 am to
Posted by Swat5
Houston
Member since May 2010
2417 posts
Posted on 10/20/10 at 8:14 am to
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I would not be shocked to see some teams start using wood bats. If one does and is noticeably stronger at the plate, we will see other top tier programs switch to wood bats for games.


Until a shard of wood from a broken bat sticks a player in the neck and kills them....then we're back where we started...

I say we play in the PMAC with nerf balls... No one gets hurt...and maybe they could pipe in some '60s music and hand out doobies..

Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
30393 posts
Posted on 10/20/10 at 8:18 am to
Wiffle ball is the way to go, and every fielder needs to go out dressed like a hockey goalie.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34717 posts
Posted on 10/20/10 at 8:20 am to
I really like the rule change and I'm an LSU fan. Stop whining and adapt.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34717 posts
Posted on 10/20/10 at 8:24 am to
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One of the issues I see is a complete lack of fundamentals by pitchers at all levels. When I was taught to pitch, I was taught to finish my delivery by having my body square to home plate and ready to receive a hit. Essentially, I was required to be in a shortstop ready position after every pitch.

Most pitchers do not finish the delivery movement and prepare themselves to receive a ball from the bat. There are guys standing upright with their backs turned, sideways, and several other vulnerable positions.

The injuries are few and far between and could be less if pitchers would prepare themselves to receive a hit.


And how long did those fundamentals allow you to pitch in the majors?
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34717 posts
Posted on 10/20/10 at 8:30 am to
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The NCAA started regulated the power of college metal bats over a decade ago. The are not "hotter than ever." That is why you don't see a team hitting 140 home runs in a season like we used to see.


The main change was not the pop of the bat. They reduced the bat from a 2-3/4 inch barrel to 2-5/8. They may have also reduced the allowable length minus weight (not sure what they call that).
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133496 posts
Posted on 10/20/10 at 9:00 am to
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The main change was not the pop of the bat. They reduced the bat from a 2-3/4 inch barrel to 2-5/8. They may have also reduced the allowable length minus weight
That was the first attempt to 'soften' the bats performance. Subsequent rules reduced the weight of the bats which was intended to reduce the 'pop' of the bats.

The new requirement is the first one regarding the material used in the bat. Now bats must be made of a composite of ceramic/plastic rather than metal.
Posted by Ray Finkle
Collier county
Member since Sep 2007
1778 posts
Posted on 10/20/10 at 9:08 am to
People, if you don't want to get hurt playing a sport, then don't play.

What's gonna happen when the first player gets hit it then head with a ball off one of these new bats? Will the NCAA make them start using broomsticks?

Geez, you can't hit anybody hard in the NFL w/o getting suspended or penalized and now the homerun is non-existent in college baseball. Never thought I'd see this day.
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 10/20/10 at 9:20 am to
Why dont we just use wiffle balls? That way we dont even need an outfield and can save on scholly's. They can even use the new plastic bats and just make the barrel bigger. Its a win win..





Posted by Kim Jong Ir
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2008
54838 posts
Posted on 10/20/10 at 9:39 am to
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quote:


We got an e-mail and a paper renewal form by mail.


When? How long ago?


I don't remember exactly. 2-3 weeks ago maybe.
Posted by catnip
Member since Sep 2003
16376 posts
Posted on 10/20/10 at 9:40 am to
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WTF is with this rule and why is it implemented? WOW


Who knows what the NCAA is thinking? They keep tinkering with success so much that we will go back to the 50's and 60's where college Baseball was a non interest. Maybe thats what those so called intellectuals they call college presidents or chancellors really want is to dissolve a good thing to save "MONEY".
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133496 posts
Posted on 10/20/10 at 9:42 am to
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I don't remember exactly. 2-3 weeks ago maybe.



Sorry to bother you. I had a brain cramp bad last night. I went back and looked at my checking statement and saw that my check for baseball tickets and the TAF 'donation' already cleared. My bad..... I guess my Alzheimer's kicked in last night.
Posted by tigerfan1974
Member since Dec 2009
607 posts
Posted on 10/20/10 at 10:21 am to
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The main change was not the pop of the bat. They reduced the bat from a 2-3/4 inch barrel to 2-5/8. They may have also reduced the allowable length minus weight (not sure what they call that).


Since when has college ever used 2-3/4 bats. As far as I know it has always been 2-5/8.

Anyway, my son tells me the new metal bats have about the same "sweet" spot as last yr's models, but the ball just seems to die (has no carry). They've only swung the new bats a couple times this fall, been swinging wood bats all fall. But, his initial reaction to the new bats was, a lot bigger sweet spot compared to wood, but a lot less carry compared to wood.
Posted by hashtag
Comfy, AF
Member since Aug 2005
32675 posts
Posted on 10/20/10 at 10:26 am to
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And how long did those fundamentals allow you to pitch in the majors?




3 years in college
2.5 years in minor league
6.5 years in the majors

You?
Posted by jobare
Lowzyana
Member since Sep 2009
37 posts
Posted on 10/20/10 at 10:35 am to
I just read all 9 pages of this thread and while some of it is funny, some is dissapointing.
I can tell you that it is about time for the bat change. It may not be as exciting for fans, but it is not as dangerous for pitchers.. it also has the side benefit of allowing pitchers to pitch inside more-- it makes the game closer to the pro game. While some may not like that, it does reduce one major argument that MLB uses when recruiting pitchers-- that pitchers dont learn to pitch inside and learn to establish a fastball in college.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
288131 posts
Posted on 10/20/10 at 11:21 am to
im not reading this whole thread, it just got stupid


but i was reading twitter one day, and one of the Baseball America guys mentioned that in the NCAA rule book, a player could actually use a wood bat if they wanted.

if these bats are really dead, i think they should ask Jack Mariucci for a small donation and try them out.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133496 posts
Posted on 10/20/10 at 11:23 am to
I forgot to add that former Tiger baseball player Trey McClure was the guest speaker. He relived some great baseball moments for the audience, including several humorous Skip Bertman anecdotes. I'd repeat them here but it was McClure's imitating Skip's voice and mannerisms that made it so funny.

One story which transcends Skip's voice was in 1997 (I think that is what McClure said) when LSU's first game was in the Superdome in the Winn Dixie Classic. The pitcher, Dan Guillory, was known for his great fastball........and lack of control.

On the first pitch of the game, Guillory beaned the hitter square on the helmet! Skip comes ambling out of the dugout, gets to the pitcher's mound and says, "Ok, Guillory, I'll see you in about three months."

Then Skip calls in a relief pitcher.
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
76782 posts
Posted on 10/20/10 at 11:24 am to
I thout for a second that he said that LSU fans would hate the new dead beats.
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
30393 posts
Posted on 10/20/10 at 11:30 am to
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Since when has college ever used 2-3/4 bats. As far as I know it has always been 2-5/8.


Until 1998 they used 2 3/4 and could have a -5 ratio. After the title game that year was 21-14 they changed to 2 5/8 and -3.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 10/20/10 at 11:33 am to
They'd hit more HRs with wood, might as well make the switch
Posted by Honkus
Member since Aug 2005
56452 posts
Posted on 10/20/10 at 11:39 am to
Augie Garrido <3s the new bats, u can bet that
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