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Coach Grades for Season 1
Posted on 12/4/22 at 11:49 am
Posted on 12/4/22 at 11:49 am
I posted this within another thread and thought it would be a good topic for open non-reactionary intelligent responses but this is tRant. 
I think all coaches will be evaluated at the end of the season. This is how I would rank them:
House B+ - A- Patchwork group with very little depth
Denbrock - C I really questioned a lot of calls including substitution of Daniels when he was clearly struggling or when LSU was up big. He went conservative with Nuss when he had the chance to let him loose. That speaks of trust to me. That fourth and inches call yesterday, if it was him and not Kelly, was atrocious and really makes me want to give him a D.
Polian - F This is just not understandable. As you could see, when special teams were remotely decent this team won. No excuse.
Davis - B+ - A- Oline really came together and was surprising
Cooks - D The safeties were terrible
Cain - B- The dline played well with the loss of their best player.
Steeples - C - B- The big question at when he was hired was his lack of coaching experience.You can tell he has never held that high of a position because at times the corners were the biggest liability. However, considering the lack of depth he did the best he could with what he had.
Hankton C- - D+ Really disappointed in the progression of the group as a whole. The inability to separate at times is on route running and they were unable to go off script.
Wilson - B There are no elite backs on this team and they lost one and the other was injured for a critical game. The fumble issues of his Emery is puzzling.
Sloan ? I’m not sure what has improved or even if this is on him, Denbrock or Kelly. So I can’t rank him.
Kelly - A Considering building a roster out of nothing and winning the West, this was a very successful season.
I’m VERY interested in how well this class comes together and keeping the roster together. That will speak to belief and commitment to the process.
I think all coaches will be evaluated at the end of the season. This is how I would rank them:
House B+ - A- Patchwork group with very little depth
Denbrock - C I really questioned a lot of calls including substitution of Daniels when he was clearly struggling or when LSU was up big. He went conservative with Nuss when he had the chance to let him loose. That speaks of trust to me. That fourth and inches call yesterday, if it was him and not Kelly, was atrocious and really makes me want to give him a D.
Polian - F This is just not understandable. As you could see, when special teams were remotely decent this team won. No excuse.
Davis - B+ - A- Oline really came together and was surprising
Cooks - D The safeties were terrible
Cain - B- The dline played well with the loss of their best player.
Steeples - C - B- The big question at when he was hired was his lack of coaching experience.You can tell he has never held that high of a position because at times the corners were the biggest liability. However, considering the lack of depth he did the best he could with what he had.
Hankton C- - D+ Really disappointed in the progression of the group as a whole. The inability to separate at times is on route running and they were unable to go off script.
Wilson - B There are no elite backs on this team and they lost one and the other was injured for a critical game. The fumble issues of his Emery is puzzling.
Sloan ? I’m not sure what has improved or even if this is on him, Denbrock or Kelly. So I can’t rank him.
Kelly - A Considering building a roster out of nothing and winning the West, this was a very successful season.
I’m VERY interested in how well this class comes together and keeping the roster together. That will speak to belief and commitment to the process.
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Posted on 12/4/22 at 11:51 am to Tiger1988
quote:
non-reactionary intelligent responses
lmao
Posted on 12/4/22 at 11:55 am to TFS4E
Kelly A-
House B-
Denbrock C-
Polian F-
House B-
Denbrock C-
Polian F-
Posted on 12/4/22 at 11:57 am to dandan
quote:
Kelly A- House B- Denbrock C- Polian F-
Pretty much aligned with what I see and posted. I couldn’t give an F-
but am there with you. 
Posted on 12/4/22 at 11:57 am to Tiger1988
Polian is a terrible special teams coach. Blocking issues on field goals and extra pints. No return game. Returners running free over and over. Too many breakdowns to list. However, he is apparently a fantastic recruiter and helped land several players. So, does Kelly fire him or move him to another position or hire a true special teams assistant and leave Polian coordinator in name only?
Posted on 12/4/22 at 11:58 am to kwtiger70
quote:
Polian is a terrible special teams coach. Blocking issues on field goals and extra pints. No return game. Returners running free over and over. Too many breakdowns to list. However, he is apparently a fantastic recruiter and helped land several players. So, does Kelly fire him or move him to another position or hire a true special teams assistant and leave Polian coordinator in name only?
Is Polian better than Frank with a pocket full of cash? I’m not so sure about that.
Posted on 12/4/22 at 11:59 am to Tiger1988
I don’t quite understand how you can give Kelly an A but so many in his staff lower grades..
Posted on 12/4/22 at 11:59 am to Tiger1988
Kelly - A-
House - B+
Denbrock - C+
Polian - F
House - B+
Denbrock - C+
Polian - F
Posted on 12/4/22 at 12:00 pm to Tiger1988
I actually think all those are fair grades.
Cooks was fired as a safeties coach back to back not sure why Kelly took him, Denbrock and Polian.
It's a group that hasn't produced at a high level at all in their careers
Cooks was fired as a safeties coach back to back not sure why Kelly took him, Denbrock and Polian.
It's a group that hasn't produced at a high level at all in their careers
Posted on 12/4/22 at 12:01 pm to Tiger1988
How many DB line ups did we see due to injuries and lack of depth?? At worst an incomplete grade would be a fair coaching assessment for safety’s coach
Posted on 12/4/22 at 12:01 pm to dandan
quote:
Kelly A-
House B-
Denbrock C-
Polian F-
Polian is graded too high.
Here is his proper grade:
Polian - FU
Posted on 12/4/22 at 12:03 pm to SPEEDY
At the D1 level, I’m not sure if special teams could be any worse
Posted on 12/4/22 at 12:05 pm to Superfluous Tiger
quote:
I don’t quite understand how you can give Kelly an A but so many in his staff lower grades..
You can cover for some of those deficiencies through leadership, decision making and coaching up the coaches ie making lemons out of lemonade. Kelly and House masked a bunch of deficiencies all season. Why House got an A- because of it.
The Great Bill Walsh did this all the time. The key was he built a lot of those coaches to A - A- coaches. Will Kelly be able to do that to the coordinators and will the coordinators be able to do that to their reports?
Posted on 12/4/22 at 12:07 pm to Tiger1988
House (B-) fell apart near the end of the season. Had some bad games and great ones.
Denbrock - (B) Jayden was very limited passing wise in a offensive scheme that doesn’t usually use a running qb. I think with a better passer we see a lot of great things
Polian - (F) The fact he is still here today is shocking. Kelly needs to answer for this shite.
Davis - (A-) Two freshman starting in the SEC and holding their own is huge. Solid season.
Cooks - (C-) Pretty bad all around but we are also very limited with talent at that position
Cain - (B-) I expected more from this group this year. Next year I expect an awesome year from the d line.
Steeples - (D) Always out of position, lack talent at that position. May also be pretty bad next year.
Hankton (C+) the fact Boutte had such a bad year brings his grade down a lot. That being said Jayden didn’t help this group at all.
Wilson - (B-) We have a walk on playing most of the reps. Emery is the most overrated back in LSU history.
Sloan - (C-) Jayden hasn’t changed at all. And I believe Kelly has more to do with his confidence than Sloan. Sloan is regarded as one of the best QB coaches in America. He needs to be judged hard.
Kelly - (A-) We won the SEC West after a 6-7 season with 39 scholarship players. Not a lot of coaches can make that happen. We have a decent recruiting class and potential to get a lot of transfers. The A&M loss rubbed me the wrong way though and he deserves criticism for that loss.
Denbrock - (B) Jayden was very limited passing wise in a offensive scheme that doesn’t usually use a running qb. I think with a better passer we see a lot of great things
Polian - (F) The fact he is still here today is shocking. Kelly needs to answer for this shite.
Davis - (A-) Two freshman starting in the SEC and holding their own is huge. Solid season.
Cooks - (C-) Pretty bad all around but we are also very limited with talent at that position
Cain - (B-) I expected more from this group this year. Next year I expect an awesome year from the d line.
Steeples - (D) Always out of position, lack talent at that position. May also be pretty bad next year.
Hankton (C+) the fact Boutte had such a bad year brings his grade down a lot. That being said Jayden didn’t help this group at all.
Wilson - (B-) We have a walk on playing most of the reps. Emery is the most overrated back in LSU history.
Sloan - (C-) Jayden hasn’t changed at all. And I believe Kelly has more to do with his confidence than Sloan. Sloan is regarded as one of the best QB coaches in America. He needs to be judged hard.
Kelly - (A-) We won the SEC West after a 6-7 season with 39 scholarship players. Not a lot of coaches can make that happen. We have a decent recruiting class and potential to get a lot of transfers. The A&M loss rubbed me the wrong way though and he deserves criticism for that loss.
This post was edited on 12/4/22 at 12:15 pm
Posted on 12/4/22 at 12:08 pm to Tiger1988
Kelly: A
Denbrock: B
House: B+
Davis: A+
Polian: ZZZZZZZZZZZwheifjebwudjdWTF
The rest of the position coaches are tough to call due to personnel limitations / year 1 / other things going on — without actually having an ear inside football ops
Denbrock: B
House: B+
Davis: A+
Polian: ZZZZZZZZZZZwheifjebwudjdWTF
The rest of the position coaches are tough to call due to personnel limitations / year 1 / other things going on — without actually having an ear inside football ops
This post was edited on 12/4/22 at 12:12 pm
Posted on 12/4/22 at 12:09 pm to Tiger1988
How are you blaming the WRs production on Hankton. Hankton is a bonafide legit coach. I would say now call me crazy but the lack of production may be on Jayden Daniels lack of reading defenses and throwing ability ??
Posted on 12/4/22 at 12:11 pm to Tiger1988
People are disappointed with Steeples?
I’m not saying we had elite CBs but it was a group mostly made up of transfers and I thought they played pretty well outside of Tenn and UGA.
I’m not saying we had elite CBs but it was a group mostly made up of transfers and I thought they played pretty well outside of Tenn and UGA.
Posted on 12/4/22 at 12:11 pm to Tiger1988
quote:
Polian - F
What’s worse than an F, a G? Honestly his unit was the worst I’ve ever seen at LSU. They were awful at so many things it’s impossible to name them all.
The coaches that I absolutely want to retain are: House, Davis, Cain, Steeples, and Wilson. I think those 5 are excellent and the rest will be replaced if needed by Kelly. It’s hard to see who’s actually doing a great job from the outside but I wouldn’t be disappointed to see any of the rest go
This post was edited on 12/4/22 at 12:12 pm
Posted on 12/4/22 at 12:15 pm to Tiger1988
I’d give Kelly a B+
The good: he exceeded expectations… but some of those expectations were probably too low (six wins?). We beat Alabama and Ole Miss. We got to the SEC championship.
But let’s be honest, the SEC west was not as strong as it usually is. Alabama is definitely not as good. A&M should have been better. Ole Miss was overrated. Auburn was really bad.
What’s keeping him from deserving an A: An atrocious special teams coordinator choice. Not having the team ready to go for Arkansas and A&M.
The good: he exceeded expectations… but some of those expectations were probably too low (six wins?). We beat Alabama and Ole Miss. We got to the SEC championship.
But let’s be honest, the SEC west was not as strong as it usually is. Alabama is definitely not as good. A&M should have been better. Ole Miss was overrated. Auburn was really bad.
What’s keeping him from deserving an A: An atrocious special teams coordinator choice. Not having the team ready to go for Arkansas and A&M.
Posted on 12/4/22 at 12:17 pm to Tiger1988
quote:
Hankton C- - D+ Really disappointed in the progression of the group as a whole. The inability to separate at times is on route running and they were unable to go off script.
Meh, thy separated just fine against toughest defense in country after the half
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