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Chuck Pearson's Plea Deal? Good For Wade?

Posted on 3/20/19 at 1:39 pm
Posted by USMCTIGER1970
BATON ROUGE
Member since Mar 2017
2371 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 1:39 pm
I think it bodes well, so hear me out. Chuck got 24-30 months and has to pay back $91,500 in bribe money. He was facing up to 5yrs and a a lot larger fine. That's a slap on the wrist for taking a plea. Dawkins didn't plea out in the earlier trail was convicted and got 6 months. The new charges are basically the same as what Pearson was facing. After seeing what Chuck got I think Dawkins ends up taking a plea deal and this thing never goes to trial. No trial, No testimony, No NCAA investigation worries, because with the plea deal the court docs would be sealed, please someone correct me if I'm wrong, LSU fans will have Alleva and G. Kings heads if Wade is not reinstated.
This post was edited on 3/20/19 at 1:45 pm
Posted by mylsuhat
Mandeville, LA
Member since Mar 2008
48926 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 1:41 pm to
Why would a coach who hasn't been charged with anything plea to something?


Additionally, which criminal law do you think he broke?
Posted by burdman
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2007
20685 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 1:42 pm to
Dawkins taking a plea would be the best scenario for Wade.

Even if that happens, I still have a hard time seeing Wade & LSU reconciling their differences.
Posted by TheTexasTiger7
Dallas - Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2018
9387 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 1:42 pm to
Bruh Wade isn’t a criminal. He’s not on trial for anything, and hasn’t been charged. He wasn’t even called as a witness by the prosecution, it was the defense.

ETA: Looks like you’re talking about Dawkins. Yes that would be best case for Wade if Dawkins takes plea.
This post was edited on 3/20/19 at 1:44 pm
Posted by burdman
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2007
20685 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 1:42 pm to
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Why would a coach who hasn't been charged with anything plea to something?


He's talking about Dawkins.

If Dawkins takes a plea deal, Wade won't have to testify in court.
Posted by ECOTIGER
westbank for life
Member since Dec 2007
2836 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 1:43 pm to
I believe he's talking about Dawkins taking the plea deal. Not wade.
This post was edited on 3/20/19 at 1:44 pm
Posted by USMCTIGER1970
BATON ROUGE
Member since Mar 2017
2371 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 1:43 pm to
Not Wade, Christian Dawkins if he takes a plea there will be no trail.

Edit: I changed the "he" in the original text to Dawkins to clarify who I was talking about.
This post was edited on 3/20/19 at 1:47 pm
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126854 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 1:46 pm to
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No NCAA investigation worries
I think we're being overly optimistic if we believe there won't be an NCAA investigation after all of the criminal trials are over.

I'm not referring to just LSU but also regarding all of the other schools that have been mentioned in the criminal trials' testimony and recorded phone calls.
Posted by USMCTIGER1970
BATON ROUGE
Member since Mar 2017
2371 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 1:48 pm to
They would need access to the court docs, if they are sealed the NCAA can go pound sand!!
Posted by Macavity92
Member since Dec 2004
5981 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 1:54 pm to
Not sure why the court documents would be sealed. Do you have a statute on that? One of the news services recently got all the court documents on the FBI ref who was fixing games. Plus, once all prosecutions are wrapped the FBI file may be subject to a FOIA request.
Posted by Quatre Pot
Member since Jan 2015
1539 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 2:13 pm to
Problem is if a plea deal is reached the rest of the evidence doesn’t come out and Will Wade is left as the only publicly outed “cheater”
We need the trial to be long and ugly so it all comes out leaving him as just one of the guys
Posted by Philippines4LSU
Member since May 2018
8789 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 2:17 pm to
quote:

Problem is if a plea deal is reached the rest of the evidence doesn’t come out and Will Wade is left as the only publicly outed “cheater”
We need the trial to be long and ugly so it all comes out leaving him as just one of the guys


I'm not sure I agree with that assessment, but part of me would revel in the entirety of the corrupt system crashing and burning.
Posted by Sev09
Nantucket
Member since Feb 2011
15552 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 2:24 pm to
Can he take a plea deal today so that Wade can be reinstated?
Posted by OchoDedos
Republic of Texas
Member since Oct 2014
33935 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 2:28 pm to
Let's get something straight. Dawkins has already been convicted, in October, of conspiracy to commit wire fraud for funneling illegal payments to families of recruits to Louisville, Kansas and North Carolina State.

There are no Federal charges against Wade , because of one simple fact. There is no evidence. The conversation between Dawkins and Wade would have constituted a conspiracy to commit wire fraud. That's an FBI wiretap, do you honestly believe they let that go and did not investigate Wade? The subpoenas are defense subpoenas, not the Govt.
Posted by Philippines4LSU
Member since May 2018
8789 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 2:31 pm to
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There are no Federal charges against Wade

I agree and haven't claimed otherwise.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126854 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 2:39 pm to
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They would need access to the court docs
No, they wouldn't.

The vast majority of NCAA investigations have nothing to do with any criminal trials. They do their own investigating. They don't need court docs to tell them what to investigate.
Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
49645 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 2:43 pm to
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The vast majority of NCAA investigations have nothing to do with any criminal trials. They do their own investigating. They don't need court docs to tell them what to investigate.


Sure, but they have no subpoena power. Most of their recent investigations have stalled due to a lack of evidence. The only ones which have gotten traction are the ones in which the NCAA has found a cooperating witness like Leo Lewis and Ole Miss. There is no likely witness in the LSU/Wade matter. Really, all they have is a phone conversation of Wade talking to a third party about Smart, and they have no evidence Smart took money.

The NCAA needs that trial so they can gather evidence by simply reading the court transcripts.
Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
26206 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 2:44 pm to
quote:

because with the plea deal the court docs would be sealed,


Question for legal experts... after the trial/FBI is done, can the NCAA get access to all the evidence the FBI collected?
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126854 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 2:46 pm to
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Most of their recent investigations have stalled due to a lack of evidence.
I didn't say the NCAA would find evidence.

I only said they are going to investigate the schools mentioned in the trial testimony and recorded conversations.
Posted by Carville
Sunshine, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5321 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 3:03 pm to
quote:

They don't need court docs to tell them what to investigate.

They also have no subpoena power, which is good and bad.
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