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re: Chris Landry on Les Miles and Matt Canada situations
Posted on 7/18/18 at 1:07 pm to Fat Bastard
Posted on 7/18/18 at 1:07 pm to Fat Bastard
I just find it interesting that people use the "he set records" narrative while Cam set records as well.
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Posted on 7/18/18 at 1:08 pm to Fat Bastard
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the 2013 team had nice individual stats. still have to give everybody credit. but that team was middle of the pack TEAM wise in the sec in offense. look it up. miles had offensive issues. it is beyond debating.
It was a rarity that Mett would throw to anyone but Landry and OBJ.
Posted on 7/18/18 at 1:09 pm to TigerLunatik
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I just find it interesting that people use the "he set records" narrative while Cam set records as well.
no doubt. individuals, team, sec, national, etc. have to give credit where due. i agree.
Posted on 7/18/18 at 1:10 pm to Mo Jeaux
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He didn't say that he hated O. I'd be willing to bet that they get along fine. But do you really think that Aranda thinks that O is Head Coach material at a university like LSU? Come on.
Actually, I think Aranda is very happy about his situation. He’s the highest paid DC in college, Associate HC, has autonomy and O’s full confidence with the defense, all without him having to do all the press that is required of an HC (he’s stated in the past that doing interviews isn’t really his forté).
It was also said that Aranda was at the forefront of jettisoning Canada. I don’t think anyone necessarily said that he was the one who wanted him gone, but at least he fully agreed with and supported the move.
And wondering whether Aranda thinks his football IQ is higher than O’s is a bit of a moot point. Have you ever heard anyone say anything less than “Aranda is one of the top football minds I’ve ever talked to?” Aranda doesn’t seem like a narcissist to me, but I’m pretty sure that he knows he’s the smartest football guy in every room he’s in. So using that as a slight against O may not have a lot of weight behind it.
Posted on 7/18/18 at 1:11 pm to Fat Bastard
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have to give credit where due. i agree.
That's what it's all about. Let's hope Ensminger continues to set more records.
Posted on 7/18/18 at 1:14 pm to Fat Bastard
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Fat Bastard
Canada's awesome, that's why he landed that prestigious job at Maryland.Posted on 7/18/18 at 1:18 pm to The First Cut
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Canada's awesome, that's why he landed that prestigious job at Maryland.
Orgeron is awesome which is why he couldn't even get an interview for that prestigious job at Syracuse.
Posted on 7/18/18 at 1:27 pm to The First Cut
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Canada's awesome, that's why he landed that prestigious job at Maryland.
Yeah, and all it took was a functioning retard to hire Orgeron to his current position.
Posted on 7/18/18 at 1:30 pm to DontCare
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I think Aranda is very happy about his situation
He is the highest paid DC in college football. shite, he's probably higher paid than 80% of HCs in college. Why wouldn't he be very happy about everything?
Who hired Canada?
Posted on 7/18/18 at 1:32 pm to tom
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Canada's awesome, that's why he landed that prestigious job at Maryland.
Orgeron is awesome which is why he couldn't even get an interview for that prestigious job at Syracuse.
Savage.
Posted on 7/18/18 at 2:08 pm to 1999
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-Orgeron was meant to be the anti Les. Alleva knew Orgeron wanted the job so bad that he would do whatever he told him.
-Admins wanted a name brand at OC.
I think Alleva had so brutally mismanaged the situation with Les the last two years that he wanted the process over quickly and wanted a splash hire to make everyone forget about how he handled Miles. When he couldn't land Tom Herman, he thought he would get a combo deal with Orgeron/Kiffen and he quickly took it.
His best case scenario was that he would keep recruiting continuity with Orgeron, weaken Alabama while strengthening LSU with Kiffen, and keep Aranda.
When Kiffen didn't work out, he wanted the splash OC hire and figured the best guy on the market must be hired and so they threw the money at Canada without really considering his scheme or his track record.
Now we are only 1 season into it and the only thing anyone can point at as a positive is that he managed not to completely crash and burn after September in a year when the SEC was churning coaches like never before.
Posted on 7/18/18 at 5:17 pm to JiminyCricket
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Well obviously he wanted kiffin first. Then he wanted Ensminger but Alleva wanted Canada.
Doesn’t really matter. He said hire the best co-ordinators. Aranda was already on staff. No hire. Ensminger was already on staff. No hire- just an in house promotion. He simply had to make some sort of hire to back up his stated plans.
Posted on 7/18/18 at 5:27 pm to geauxjo
I don’t even want to imagine what would have happened had Aranda either not been here or left. LSU will attract good defensively coordinators, but it would still be concerning. Thank you Miles for bringing him in here and good job LSU at least retaining him.
This post was edited on 7/18/18 at 5:28 pm
Posted on 7/18/18 at 5:30 pm to 1999
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-Canada came in thinking he was more important than the head coach.
-Assistant coaches like O as a person but don't respect him as a coach. They think they know more football than he does.
I heard directly from a current starting defensive player that this was absolutely the case. Facts.
Posted on 7/18/18 at 5:56 pm to FamousAmos
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-Assistant coaches like O as a person but don't respect him as a coach. They think they know more football than he does. I heard directly from a current starting defensive player that this was absolutely the case. Facts.
If there is any truth to this, then this little experiment will go down in flames at some point in the near future.
Posted on 7/18/18 at 6:53 pm to 1999
Most posters on this board work harder at their job than Canada works at his job.
Most posters on this board work smarter at their job than miles worked at his job.
Football coaches must work hard and smart.
Most posters on this board work smarter at their job than miles worked at his job.
Football coaches must work hard and smart.
This post was edited on 7/18/18 at 6:54 pm
Posted on 7/18/18 at 6:54 pm to Fat Bastard
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the 2013 team had nice individual stats. still have to give everybody credit. but that team was middle of the pack TEAM wise in the sec in offense.
Someone doesn't understand football metrics. Yards per play and points per possession are the two metrics that matter to an offense (you could make an argument for turnovers but where they occur on the field is arguably more important).
Total yards is not indicative of offensive effectiveness or efficiency.
Posted on 7/18/18 at 7:10 pm to 1999
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Pitt was not sad to see Canada go
They scored almost a full 20 points less a game and went 5-7
Posted on 7/18/18 at 9:05 pm to SammyTiger
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They scored almost a full 20 points less a game and went 5-7
yeah but he had to suck at all his stops because THE FIRST CUT aka football stupid rantard said so here!
Posted on 7/18/18 at 9:17 pm to Philippines4LSU
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Someone doesn't understand football metrics.
i understand them fine. there are tons of metrics. The guy above was speaking about the INDIVIDUAL YARDS of certain players. you clearly cannot read or comprehend. Go back read his posts. Then, I was talking about total yards. My statement is 100% correct. go look up our rank in the sec that year. People use offensive rankings all the time.
yes, yards per play is used also and a great metric but we are not discussing that are we? again, he brought up INDIVIDUAL stats and i countered with another TEAM stat perspective. nobody here said they sucked and were terrible that year or said YPP sucked. Others and myself have discussed those very metrics many times here. try to keep up.
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