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re: CEO just said, "the defense didn't tackle and execute for four qtrs..."

Posted on 11/7/16 at 2:10 pm to
Posted by sjmabry
Texas
Member since Aug 2013
18795 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 2:10 pm to
quote:

We lost that game because of poor o-line play and poor QB play, plain and simple. The defense gave the offense 2 turnovers, one inside the 35yd line of Bama and they couldn't do shite
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
61873 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 2:12 pm to
I've been saying over and over that Orgeron should be judged with the same standard that Miles was judged.

Imagine if Miles was still coaching and Saturday happened:

* Offense accumulates the fewest yards we've seen since the Miles era
* Time management issue at the end of the half which results in Alabama getting a free play
* Gameplay that looked the way it did
* Coach coming out on Monday and blaming the players' execution vs. the gameplan (throwing players under bus)
* Coach coming out on Monday and pointing to the defense

People would be bouncing off the walls going after Miles.

I appreciate what Orgeron has done as interim coach. He kept this team together and did a good job. But, at the same time, you simply can't consider him for the job long term.
Posted by Tiger Khan
Member since Oct 2009
2506 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 2:21 pm to
The defense didn't execute on 1 drive. They did miss a few tackles and they did get a 15 yard penalty.

The offense didn't execute at all, on any drive, the entire game.

Posted by tigerfan8182
Lake Charles
Member since Nov 2014
314 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 2:26 pm to
Nobody is saying that what he said isn't true. The issue is why call out the unit that played the best Saturday night. The offense was horrible in every single aspect. Not a single productive quarter. The defense literally had one bad drive.
Posted by TigerAlum93
Member since Sep 2010
3224 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 2:27 pm to
cant win if you dont score
Posted by Fat Bastard
2024 NFL pick'em champion
Member since Mar 2009
88714 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 2:28 pm to
quote:

I've been saying over and over that Orgeron should be judged with the same standard that Miles was judged.

Imagine if Miles was still coaching and Saturday happened:

* Offense accumulates the fewest yards we've seen since the Miles era
* Time management issue at the end of the half which results in Alabama getting a free play
* Gameplay that looked the way it did
* Coach coming out on Monday and blaming the players' execution vs. the gameplan (throwing players under bus)
* Coach coming out on Monday and pointing to the defense

People would be bouncing off the walls going after Miles.

I appreciate what Orgeron has done as interim coach. He kept this team together and did a good job. But, at the same time, you simply can't consider him for the job long term.




bingo
Posted by tigergurl67
Memphis
Member since Apr 2013
53 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 2:29 pm to
The defense was on the field for 13 mins 35 seconds in the 4th quarter. That's ridiculous.
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32966 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 2:30 pm to
quote:

I get the feeling there is some friction there.

Insecurity due to the fact that O realizes Aranda is more valuable to the program than him.
Posted by Fat Bastard
2024 NFL pick'em champion
Member since Mar 2009
88714 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 2:32 pm to
quote:

We did not try rolling out Etling to change his launch point on pass plays


jimbo rolled guys out often if needed exactly like you described.

but yeah! let's hire O over jimbo like these dipshits want!!!!!!
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
161926 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 2:35 pm to
quote:

've been saying over and over that Orgeron should be judged with the same standard that Miles was judged.

Imagine if Miles was still coaching and Saturday happened:

* Offense accumulates the fewest yards we've seen since the Miles era
* Time management issue at the end of the half which results in Alabama getting a free play
* Gameplay that looked the way it did
* Coach coming out on Monday and blaming the players' execution vs. the gameplan (throwing players under bus)
* Coach coming out on Monday and pointing to the defense

People would be bouncing off the walls going after Miles.

I appreciate what Orgeron has done as interim coach. He kept this team together and did a good job. But, at the same time, you simply can't consider him for the job long term.

Posted by Macintosh
Lane State University
Member since Sep 2011
55720 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 2:37 pm to
He isn't getting the job
Posted by Surv1vor1st
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2009
1674 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 2:43 pm to
Get a stop and get off the field
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66060 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 2:45 pm to
He knows that we are in contact with Herman and are discussing keeping arranda on if Herman accepts the job. That's what this little jab at the d is about.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39157 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 2:46 pm to
Or the offense could not go three and out 7 drives in a row.

That O blames the D for anything is more proof that he shouldn't be anywhere near this coaching job.
Posted by MastrShake
SoCal
Member since Nov 2008
7281 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 2:54 pm to
quote:

I watched/listened to the whole video. Everything he said was true. Go watch for yourself.
where is it, because i REALLY need to hear some context for that. on face value, it annoys me.
Posted by El Magnifico
La casa de tu mamá
Member since Jan 2014
7017 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 3:04 pm to
I listened to the whole thing. That part didn't catch my attention so I'm sure the lack of context makes this a bullshite thread to start. I heard him saying the Oline couldn't pass protect or run block and that Danny Etling had a bad game. Didn't criticize the defense at all.


Edit: I still would rather Jimbo or Aranda
This post was edited on 11/7/16 at 3:05 pm
Posted by LouisianaLonghorn
Austin, Texas
Member since Jan 2006
15677 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 3:16 pm to
It appeared that no offensive adjustments were made at halftime and that there was no back up plan. Everybody in the stadium saw that the OL couldn't protect Etling or open holes for Fournette. How do you scheme around an OL that's getting blown off the ball every single snap?
Posted by DCtiger1
Member since Jul 2009
11031 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 3:24 pm to
quote:

Today is Tell the Truth Monday. Truth is, we played a very well-coached Alabama team, very good Alabama team. Probably the best front seven we've seen all year. Maybe the best front seven that's been in college football for a while. My job as a head coach today is to put it away. We're going to talk to the team, going to identify the things that went wrong and things that went well, and it's awfully important, especially this week, that we forget about last week and move on to Arkansas, a very tough opponent.

On offense, some of the things that we didn't do well and obviously, you guys know, we got the ball in plus territory twice, and we came away with no points. I thought that was critical in the ball game that we were able to get points early. The outcome would have been a little bit different or the game would have been in our control a little bit. On offense, it came down again to execution, to pass protection, to run blocking, poor job on substitution, critical times cost us two time-outs. And third and three, delay of game at the 35 yard line, the score was 0-0 and next play was a sack. I thought that was critical. We met as a staff and we met offensively, and we identified some things that we need to fix. Obviously, there's some things we need to fix in protection, some plays didn't work, and we need to communicate better on the sideline, getting the plays on time so we don't have critical mistakes. Obviously, there's receivers that were open, Danny didn't get the ball to them; sometimes under pressure, sometimes not. We need to identify those things and get better at them this week.

On defense, we're pleased with the way we played. Since we took over Dave Aranda's defense, held opponents scoreless. 10 out of 16 quarters, we had Alabama to a season low to points ten. Total yards 323 and passing yards 106. That was a tremendous job by our team, first held scoreless since 2007. For the first time since 2007 in the first half, but we did not play for 60 minutes. We let the quarterback make two long runs on us. We missed some tackles, we missed some assignments, so, again, it came down to execution and tackling for 60 minutes.

On special teams, I was very pleased with the play of the special teams. I think we made improvement over the last couple of weeks. We are down five punts inside the 12 yard line, an average of 41 yards, and our kick-off return averaged 27 yards per return. Obviously, we're disappointed with the catching the punt. We don't want to catch it inside the 10 yard line. It was a poor decision by Tre'Davious, and I will get that fixed. I thought the late hit on the quarterback, was third down and five against two yards, kept the drive alive. It resulted in a touchdown that was a critical, critical penalty in the ball game. These are the things we're going to talk to, with the team. I know they're going to be disappointed. I know they gave their heart and soul, and they expected to win this game, and throughout the game they thought they were going to win the game, and they gave it everything they had. For that I want to commend their effort. It was a great night in Tiger Stadium. It was a classic LSU/Alabama match, a great Tiger walk, all the former players come. What a great atmosphere it was, and that was just -- didn't get the result that we wanted, but it's time to move on. This is game five of our new season. We promised each other, we're going to take it one game at a time. Like I said, it's a going to be important to put this away and move on a tough, very tough, Arkansas team who plays very good at home. Only loss at home, I believe is to Alabama, and I believe they put 30 points on Alabama. Coach Bielema's team is a very physical football team. They always have. They had almost 300 yards rushing against us last year. They've beaten us three years in a row. They're going to come into this game with confidence. We need to go on the road and really play a tough, physical Arkansas game, but we're ready to do that.



Again, nothing he said was inaccurate. You win as a team and lose as a team.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66060 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 3:26 pm to
It's true no adjustments and the only way you can attack a team that you can't move is with traps draws tosses and screens. We ran 1 screen 1 draw and 0 traps. It was a total failure by ensminger and it looked like they wanted to get the game to OT and then with a 25 yard field try to score.
Posted by FreddieMac
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
24834 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 3:37 pm to
Why he should not be the coach... That D was outstanding all night. If not for a missed holding and a fake late hit, Bama would still be trying to score.
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