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re: CEH is averaging nearly 2 more ypc than the two freshmen

Posted on 9/15/19 at 10:38 am to
Posted by wahoocs
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Posted on 9/15/19 at 10:38 am to
He’s CHNI. Lol
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
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Posted on 9/15/19 at 10:38 am to
I was watching RB coach teaching Emery and Davis nonstop. They will be fine but aren’t ready yet for all that this passing O entails.

Not a knock on them. It takes time. They will get there in time.

CEH may not be perfect in pass protection but he knows where to be on every play.
This post was edited on 9/15/19 at 10:41 am
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91273 posts
Posted on 9/15/19 at 10:40 am to
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Don’t you think his consistency could stem from playing with the 1’s while the best passing game in nation slings its dick around?

You are better than this my dude. Don’t let this be another Etling take


Lester, I see no reason to sacrafice CEH carries. Want to let them come in 2nd or 3rd? Sure, no problem, but not st the expense of CEH yet.

I'm fine with the pace at which they've played, if that makes sense. Keep working them in.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
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Posted on 9/15/19 at 10:42 am to
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ike CEH, but this is disingenuous to say the least.



I haven’t seen one carry by the freshmen that has made me say they should be getting more carries. I know they haven’t touched the ball a lot but can anyone tell me what play has sold them that they should be ahead of CEH?
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 9/15/19 at 10:42 am to
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Lester, I see no reason to sacrafice CEH carries.


He hasn’t been bad but still too many negative & zero-net runs. There are more yards to be had. Him alone will not cut it when they get to the meat of the schedule
Posted by Srobi14
South Florida
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 9/15/19 at 10:46 am to
Yeah I agree CEH just dives at people legs for pass protection, it is effective a lot of the time but isn't ideal IMO.
Posted by slackster
Houston
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Posted on 9/15/19 at 10:47 am to
They can have Lanard's carries then. And Curry's.

Give CEH 2/3rds and split the rest among them.

37 to him and 22 to them is fine IMO. that may change as the season progresses, but I've seen nothing to suggest we're there yet.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
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Posted on 9/15/19 at 10:49 am to
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haven’t seen one carry by the freshmen that has made me say they should be getting more carries. I know they haven’t touched the ball a lot but can anyone tell me what play has sold them that they should be ahead of CEH?


If you can’t see the disparity that is on you. For me it doesn’t have to be a big play. You have to be able to separate circumstance.

For instance Emery took a handoff last night going right, and he lost like 3 or 4 yards because the right side got blown up. He stiff armed one guy, then broke another tackle, used his off arm to stay on his feet and eventually went out of bounds. He lost yards but holy shite. That is going to translate when the blocking is set

As for TDP, if he didn’t show you anything last night, you might have had too many bourbons.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
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Posted on 9/15/19 at 10:51 am to
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They can have Lanard's carries then


They have to get his carries and more. Just about Every successful modern offense features 2 backs. Lanard is not it. CEH is fine being one of those 2 guys but the others are definitely more talented and need to play when the 1’s are rolling. Bottom line
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 9/15/19 at 10:53 am to
Anyone who watched last night saw TDP is more talented than CEH. Going on stupid small stat sample sizes for Emery and TDP is dumb.

TDPgot 7 Carrie's last night and 5 of them went for a first down or TD, got him a lot of short yardage carries and he delivered. Play him more.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91273 posts
Posted on 9/15/19 at 10:55 am to
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Going on stupid small stat sample sizes for Emery and TDP is dumb.


Too small for the stats to matter, but enough for everyone to be sold he should play over CEH?

, this place man.

I like the freshmen. They should play. They should be worked in over the season. They shouldn't take CEH's carries yet. That's my only point.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91273 posts
Posted on 9/15/19 at 10:56 am to
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They have to get his carries and more.


I'll say this - this staff has always mixed in the appropriate RBs imo. By the meat of the schedule, things were set. I see no reason to believe that will change this year.
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
71490 posts
Posted on 9/15/19 at 10:57 am to
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Too small for the stats to matter, but enough for everyone to be sold he should play over CEH?


Again, anyone who watched last night saw TDP was the better back between the two. It's not secret the freshmen have talent. They just need a lot more touches.

CEH has been a big part of the run game last year and this year and it's been among the worst seasons running the ball in recent history, put 2 and 2 together.
This post was edited on 9/15/19 at 10:58 am
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 9/15/19 at 10:57 am to
Fournette wouldn’t start on this team
Posted by Lord Orgeron
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2017
945 posts
Posted on 9/15/19 at 11:01 am to
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You’re stupid if you think you shouldn’t give the freshman snaps. Or maybe you’re just stupid.


Yes, Emery’s -2 yards on 3 carries last night just screamed that he deserves to be the starter.

The young guys are going to have plenty of time to shine, maybe even later this season if they really learn the offense. For now, y’all really need to STFU
Posted by ScaryClown
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 9/15/19 at 11:01 am to
What a ridiculous angle to take in this argument
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
287995 posts
Posted on 9/15/19 at 11:02 am to
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say this - this staff has always mixed in the appropriate RBs imo. By the meat of the schedule, things were set. I see no reason to believe that will change this year.



Your original post says we should not sacrifice CEH’s carries for these guys. Not only are they more talented but a 2nd back is needed. So even if you think it is insulting to CEH (lol), but guys are clearly better than Fournette. Fournette getting carries is not the “appropriate mix”.

There’s no reason to wait for the meat of the schedule. None at all
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
69443 posts
Posted on 9/15/19 at 11:10 am to
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If you can’t see the disparity that is on you. For me it doesn’t have to be a big play. You have to be able to separate circumstance.



So what Coach is the idiot? O? SE? JB? Robinson? What Coach is saying play the less talented guy over the more talented guys?

Or maybe the coaches believe right now CEH is better or that the freshmen don’t know the offense enough or maybe they haven’t put in the work to get the carries.

You say it’s on me but who sees the backs more the fans or the coaches
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91273 posts
Posted on 9/15/19 at 11:11 am to
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Your original post says we should not sacrifice CEH’s carries for these guys.


We shouldn't, at least not yet.

They can battle for the 2nd role.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91273 posts
Posted on 9/15/19 at 11:11 am to
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What a ridiculous angle to take in this argument


The objective one. I know, that's blasphemy on this board.
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