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Canada's Jet Sweep
Posted on 7/30/17 at 10:07 pm
Posted on 7/30/17 at 10:07 pm
misdirection and motion. Will it be effective against SEC defenses, who are usually among the fastest in college football?
Posted on 7/30/17 at 10:08 pm to Ponchy Tiger
Refreshing thread for the 100th time
Posted on 7/30/17 at 10:10 pm to TigerBait2008
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Refreshing thread for the 100th time
forgive me I don't live here 24/7
Posted on 7/30/17 at 10:12 pm to Ponchy Tiger
I'm just excited to see us run out of more 3 wr sets instead of te's..I don't care which direction
Posted on 7/30/17 at 10:14 pm to TigerBait2008
I bet you commented in every one.
Posted on 7/30/17 at 10:17 pm to Ponchy Tiger
It will all work if the passing game is great, it won't if not...
Posted on 7/30/17 at 10:48 pm to Ponchy Tiger
It will depend on how well he uses the motion and misdirection. If used correctly, it can cause defenders to hesitate and think instead of react, which negates defensive speed.
If designed or used incorrectly, it can be a huge failure. Canada has had mixed results, mosly positive. If he continues to learn and progress in his play-calling, he will do well. If he becomes stagnant and predictable, He'll be out after the '18 season.
If designed or used incorrectly, it can be a huge failure. Canada has had mixed results, mosly positive. If he continues to learn and progress in his play-calling, he will do well. If he becomes stagnant and predictable, He'll be out after the '18 season.
Posted on 7/30/17 at 10:57 pm to Ponchy Tiger
Remember when Oregon tried that against us? It didn't work so well then. But it's more effective than 2 wide run up the middle 3 downs in a row and then punt.
Posted on 7/30/17 at 11:07 pm to Clark W Griswold
It didn't work because they couldn't run against us. When you can't run against someone no matter what, then it going to be a rough day.
I think Canada will use our passing game as a running game and our running game in the passing game as well. Just this will create problems for defense's. I think
Aranda/Canada can get together and learn a lot from one another. I also think his tempo game will work against some teams. I can't wait for it really. I also think if something isn't working then he will try something different. He's a pretty open coach which I really like. GT
I think Canada will use our passing game as a running game and our running game in the passing game as well. Just this will create problems for defense's. I think
Aranda/Canada can get together and learn a lot from one another. I also think his tempo game will work against some teams. I can't wait for it really. I also think if something isn't working then he will try something different. He's a pretty open coach which I really like. GT
Posted on 7/30/17 at 11:10 pm to Clark W Griswold
to be fair that defense was insanely good. Most defenses we face won't have the Honey Badger running down sweeps.
Posted on 7/30/17 at 11:15 pm to Ponchy Tiger
He actually doesn't call jet sweeps that often IIRC. It's a lot of WR and HB motioning that can lead to a jet sweep but it's not a one-off thing like when Miles and Cam did it. The entire Canada offense is pretty basic but is hidden by a lot of smoke and mirrors.
ETA: Just to add: I'm not saying that that offense isn't good or can't be effective. An offense that practices the same basic plays out of different sets will be better than an offense that tries to be a jack of all trades and master of none. A lot of CFB teams nowadays run the same 4-5 plays but out of multiple formations with slight deviations which give the appearance of something completely different
ETA: Just to add: I'm not saying that that offense isn't good or can't be effective. An offense that practices the same basic plays out of different sets will be better than an offense that tries to be a jack of all trades and master of none. A lot of CFB teams nowadays run the same 4-5 plays but out of multiple formations with slight deviations which give the appearance of something completely different
This post was edited on 7/30/17 at 11:18 pm
Posted on 7/30/17 at 11:24 pm to rmnldr
Jet sweep is a beautiful play and it keeps defenses off balance! Like anything else don't overuse it, or it'll be a non-factor.
This post was edited on 7/30/17 at 11:26 pm
Posted on 7/30/17 at 11:39 pm to Ponchy Tiger
Ensminger effectively used the Jet Sweep quite a few times last year. He set it up with fakes early in the game, and then hit a home run when the defense quit biting on the fake. If I recall, Chark scored on one late in the season.
This post was edited on 7/30/17 at 11:47 pm
Posted on 7/30/17 at 11:44 pm to Bmath
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If I recall, Chark scored on one late in the season.
Against A&M.
He's run for 3 touchdowns off of the jet sweep.
Texas Tech
Southern Miss
Texas A&M
ETA: The one against TTU wasn't really a jet sweep. My mistake. More of a fake handoff end around. Still, very similar to stuff Canada uses.
This post was edited on 7/30/17 at 11:45 pm
Posted on 7/31/17 at 3:53 am to Ponchy Tiger
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motion. Will it be effective against SEC defenses, who are usually among the fastest in college football?
What does pre snap motion have to do with defenses speed? Canada's misdirection is all pre snap. Post snap for the most part is basic. That's the beauty of this offense. It looks complex but is actually simple. Where in the past the offense looked simple but was more complex.
Posted on 7/31/17 at 7:09 am to Ponchy Tiger
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misdirection and motion. Will it be effective against SEC defenses, who are usually among the fastest in college football?
Auburn w/ Cam Newton
Posted on 7/31/17 at 7:25 am to geauxtigers33
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What does pre snap motion have to do with defenses speed?
Pre-snap motion makes defenders think about what might happen on the play. Thinking leads to just the slightest hesitation. Hesitation could be the difference in a foot or two, which means a defender may not get to his spot to make a play or allows for a blocker to get position on him. That's how big plays happen, or even just good plays.
Also, if the defender sees pre-snap motion and thinks he knows the play that's about to be run, he'll try to jump it. Once Canada has defenders moving in the direction he wants them to move, then they are susceptible to counters and misdirections off the same pre-snap motion. Again, this leads to positive or big plays.
Posted on 7/31/17 at 8:00 am to Clark W Griswold
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Remember when Oregon tried that against us?
did oregon have a north-south run game? did they use whole field passing also?
go watch CUM's offenses or malzahns which run power spread/power read and tell me that does not work in the SEC. we have discussed this AD INFINITUM. only football ignorant people do not understand what it will do and what it makes defenses do.
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