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Can we get some Pro-Nuss analysis on his 2 picks last night against poor competition?

Posted on 9/11/22 at 9:00 am
Posted by The Egg
Houston, TX
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Posted on 9/11/22 at 9:00 am
Or should we just go ahead and insert him into the starting lineup right away
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 9/11/22 at 9:01 am to
Maybe next time wr will run fricking right
Posted by deuce985
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 9/11/22 at 9:04 am to
Nuss didn't play well but I think it's fair criticism that this board doesn't seem to be putting together: BK's scheme is handcuffing the QBs. You see a lot of criticisms on Daniels and Nuss but throwing 90% to the outside the hashes does no favors for a QB when you're that predictable throwing the ball. Yes, our TEs are a weak spot on the team but that doesn't stop you from throwing to just about anyone else over the middle. Also, they're not scheming around a terrible OL which they better do. Daniels needs more short throw accuracy because it's the best way to soften up a pass rush when your line is bad. No run game is killing the scheme as well and I have doubts Emery can fix that because this line nobody is going to succeed behind it until it gets better.
This post was edited on 9/11/22 at 9:06 am
Posted by BornAndRaised_LA
Springfield, VA
Member since Oct 2018
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Posted on 9/11/22 at 9:05 am to
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Maybe next time wr will run fricking right


On busted plays, do good QBs scramble for a yard or two, or throw the ball away…or do they throw underhand lobs directly to defensive players with no WRs in the area?

WRs may—MAY—have gone wrong way, but that doesn’t excuse the subsequent and familiar attempt at a hero play.
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 9/11/22 at 9:05 am to
I’ve seen enough of their rationales, I think I can put together a comprehensive list:

Wasn’t his fault
Was WRs fault
Didn’t get to play with starters
O like didn’t give him time
Good defensive play
But Daniels
He’s the future
Gunslinger
Bad play calls
Staff let him down without enough reps
Posted by Prominentwon
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Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 9/11/22 at 9:07 am to
CoyoteSong still MIA? I haven’t seen him. He should be around soon, I suppose.
Posted by Double Down
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Posted on 9/11/22 at 9:08 am to
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Chad504boy


If you are putting his interceptions on the receiver then you are dumber than the rant gives you credit for. If that was an attempt at a troll, your game is weak. Either way, kindly go frick yourself.
Posted by The Egg
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2004
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Posted on 9/11/22 at 9:09 am to
Take a look at TrouserTrout's posts
Posted by ibleedprplngld
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 9/11/22 at 9:10 am to
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You see a lot of criticisms on Daniels and Nuss but throwing 90% to the outside the hashes does no favors for a QB when you're that predictable throwing the ball.


When you have the athletes at WR that LSU does, you want to get the ball in their hands with space to work. There’s nothing wrong with throwing to the perimeter if the timing is there.
This post was edited on 9/11/22 at 9:11 am
Posted by deuce985
Member since Feb 2008
27660 posts
Posted on 9/11/22 at 9:12 am to
It's a problem when you do it as much as LSU is currently doing. It makes it easier to play defense and it's not creative at all. Why do you think we struggled for 3 quarters against FSU? Use your head. When did LSU open that offense up? When they started hitting WRs over the middle exploiting man coverage. Imagine if they actually attempted to do that after the 1s quarter.

Our scheme is bad and I'm not a fan of it, sorry. It's not hard to see. Makes me terrified to think what will happen when we get to Tenn who set a school record on pressures yesterday I think. Don't say you can't scheme around a bad OL because it happens all the time in NCAA with creative minds. Kiffin doesn't care what's in front of him he can make anything competent. Our current scheme is not taking advantage of our talent at all. Maybe that will change against Miss State but right now it's bad and it's partially why we lost the FSU game.
This post was edited on 9/11/22 at 9:16 am
Posted by Skillet
Member since Aug 2006
107222 posts
Posted on 9/11/22 at 9:19 am to
Nuss looked like he was trying too hard and it made things worse for him. Even our 2's & 3's should have dominated the Jags, but they didn't. The small sampling of Howard really didn't show us anything either, but something tells me that he'll be really good when it's his turn.
Posted by GeauxTime9
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Dec 2010
6391 posts
Posted on 9/11/22 at 9:19 am to
The kid has the talent to play at this level. He can make all the throws at this level. To become a starter at this level he will need to understand how to protect the football and make smart decisive decisions with the ball. At this point in his career he still struggles with protecting the football. Regardless of whose fault either of those plays were on, he's got to understand to throw the ball away and live to play another down.
Posted by go ta hell ole miss
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 9/11/22 at 9:20 am to
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Maybe next time wr will run fricking right


On the pick six Southern did a good job of holding up the TE on the interior. I am still baffled as to why he thought it was a good idea to sling it knowing there was nobody in the area. He just panicked in a low stress game/environment. It was not a good look.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278035 posts
Posted on 9/11/22 at 9:24 am to
Teachable moments that you’d rather come when you are up 65 pts to southern than on the road in the swamp

It’s easy to see what makes him enticing. While the opponent was ideal for development yesterday, it was easy to see there was some issues going from one QB To the other

Nabers also gave a way a long TD pass by trying to be cute. His final line could have been better

All in all he’s still young
Posted by Lapaz
Member since Dec 2018
537 posts
Posted on 9/11/22 at 9:28 am to
Both interceptions were poor decisions, and there was a 3rd pass that was questionable, but aside from that, his receivers did poorly. They dropped at least 3 easy passes that I recall, and didn’t run finish their routes a couple of other times.

Nuss looked about as bad as Daniels did last week. Nuss was accura with the ball except for the int and the boneheaded throw-away. I thought he showed potential. He was playing with all backups that were constantly changing. Even against poor competition, the whole offensive lineup was doing average even running the ball. Nuss did well, except for those couple of passes.

With that said, Daniels did great in this game. He kept his eyes down field and only ran as needed. If he can continue to do that, then I don’t want to see Nuss again until we have a big lead. I think Nuss will do much better next time, just as Daniels did much better in his 2nd start.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 9/11/22 at 9:28 am to
Nuss isn't the answer to our qb needs of the future
Posted by Lapaz
Member since Dec 2018
537 posts
Posted on 9/11/22 at 9:30 am to
Both interceptions were poor decisions, and there was a 3rd pass that was questionable, but aside from that, his receivers did poorly. They dropped at least 3 easy passes that I recall, and didn’t finish their routes a couple of other times.

Nuss looked about as bad as Daniels did last week. Nuss was accurate with the ball except for the int and the boneheaded throw-away. I thought he showed potential. He was playing with all backups that were constantly changing. Even against poor competition, the whole offensive lineup was doing average, even running the ball. Nuss did well, except for those couple of passes.

With that said, Daniels did great in this game. He kept his eyes down field and only ran as needed. If he can continue to do that, then I don’t want to see Nuss again until we have a big lead. I think Nuss will do much better next time, just as Daniels did much better in his 2nd start.
Posted by CP3forMVP
Member since Nov 2010
14845 posts
Posted on 9/11/22 at 9:35 am to
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BK's scheme is handcuffing the QBs. You see a lot of criticisms on Daniels and Nuss but throwing 90% to the outside the hashes does no favors for a QB when you're that predictable throwing the ball.


I’ve seen several people say this, and this just isn’t true. Go look up any QB they want, they all attack the edges. NCAA or NFL. Joe Burrow in 2019 HEAVILY used the right side of the field, for example.
Posted by deuce985
Member since Feb 2008
27660 posts
Posted on 9/11/22 at 9:41 am to
BS. You have to attack the middle of a defense at some point. Outside will get the majority of the attempts but if you're doing it 90% of the time like LSU is doing, it's hurting your team. There's nothing creative about our scheme at all. It's predictable and nothing is putting a defense on their backs wondering what we might do next.

Daniels struggled all game against FSU looking to the outside. When LSU started rolling WRs over the middle he started hitting them. Maybe that's a scheme issue with Daniels in is they're not running enough over the middle. It's a criticism he doesn't see the field well on passing routes but he sure seemed like a different QB in the 4th against FSU when WRs were exploiting the man coverage over the middle.
This post was edited on 9/11/22 at 9:42 am
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
93676 posts
Posted on 9/11/22 at 9:44 am to
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TrouserTrout


Jesus Christ

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Look my opinion about the QB is that we know Daniel’s is not and will never be a NC winning QB. With Nuss and Howard you don’t know. They could develop into one. So in that case you give them the reps and who cares about Daniels.
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