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Can a NFL declaree return to a team if he gets no offers or practice team?
Posted on 1/9/22 at 7:58 am
Posted on 1/9/22 at 7:58 am
Can he return to a different team a year later, or is this a death sentence for ever playing again?
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Posted on 1/9/22 at 8:00 am to ewilliams000
If player signs with an agent, it’s over.
Posted on 1/9/22 at 8:01 am to ewilliams000
Someone correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe the door shuts on your eligibility once you hire an agent. At that point you’re no longer an amateur athlete.
At least, that’s how it used to work before CFB lost it’s damn mind with NIL.
At least, that’s how it used to work before CFB lost it’s damn mind with NIL.
Posted on 1/9/22 at 8:11 am to StupidBinder
Can you declare without hiring an agent? If a declaree is not sure of being chosen, wouldn't this be wise?
Posted on 1/9/22 at 8:14 am to StupidBinder
With NIL don’t some players have agents already?If so I wonder if just declaring at that point makes you ineligible
Posted on 1/9/22 at 8:16 am to ewilliams000
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Can you declare without hiring an agent?
Yes
1) Some guys get good NFL evaluations and hire an agent to push forward
2) Some guys don’t get good NFL evaluations and decide to come back to work on their weaknesses
3) Some guys don’t get good NFL evaluations and DGAF and leave anyway
Posted on 1/9/22 at 8:19 am to StupidBinder
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Someone correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe the door shuts on your eligibility once you hire an agent. At that point you’re no longer an amateur athlete.
While true, there's a deadline as well. For example, if you make it to the draft, there's no coming back...even if you go undrafted.
Posted on 1/9/22 at 8:29 am to dmatt2021
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With NIL don’t some players have agents already?If so I wonder if just declaring at that point makes you ineligible
That’s where it gets murky to me. If you’re profiting off of your NIL and someone is “managing” that for you, are you really an amateur athlete?
My guess is that the agent bit of the eligibility rule applies specifically to NFL agents but I honestly have no idea how that works now.
Posted on 1/9/22 at 8:56 am to StupidBinder
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3) Some guys don’t get good NFL evaluations and DGAF and leave anyway
75% of past LSU players to declare.
Posted on 1/9/22 at 9:00 am to StupidBinder
In Louisiana, players can hire representation for NIL purposes, so the hiring of an agent doesn’t automatically trigger ineligibility moving forward.
There is however a pretty early deadline in which players have to make their decision. That deadline is 1/17.
The short answer to OPs question is no. Once the deadline passes and if the player has officially declared for the draft, they can’t return to school like in baseball (and to a looser extent basketball).
There is however a pretty early deadline in which players have to make their decision. That deadline is 1/17.
The short answer to OPs question is no. Once the deadline passes and if the player has officially declared for the draft, they can’t return to school like in baseball (and to a looser extent basketball).
Posted on 1/9/22 at 9:00 am to Ikneauxnuffin
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3) Some guys don’t get good NFL evaluations and DGAF and leave anyway
75% of past LSU players to declare.
Show your work.
ETA: Here is a link to early entrants into the draft 1990-2020 classes
https://lsusports.net/nfl/nflearlyentrants/
Of the 66 early entrants between 1990 and 2020 football teams, here are the numbers:
18 First round selections, that is 27.27% of the total entrants
13 Second round selections, that is 19.7% of the total entrants in this round and 46.97% (31) Drafted through this round of the draft
10 Third round selections, that is 15.15% of the total entrants in this round and 62.12% (41) Drafted through this round of the draft
6 Fourth round selections, that is 9.09% of the total entrants in this round and 71.21% (47) Drafted through this round of the draft
2 Fifth round selections, that is 3.03% of the total entrants in this round and 74.24% (49) Drafted through this round of the draft
2 Sixth round selections, that is 3.03% of the total entrants in this round and 77.27% (51) Drafted through this round of the draft
4 Seventh round selections, that is 6.06% of the total entrants in this round and 83.33% (55) Drafted through this round of the draft
1 Eighth round selections, that is 1.52% of the total entrants in this round and 84.85% (56) Drafted through this round of the draft
10 Undrafted, that is 15.15% of the total entrants in this round and 100.% (66) Drafted through this round of the draft
This post was edited on 1/9/22 at 10:06 am
Posted on 1/9/22 at 9:05 am to StupidBinder
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With NIL don’t some players have agents already?If so I wonder if just declaring at that point makes you ineligible
That’s where it gets murky to me.
A player is allowed to hire a professional to assist him with setting up NIL deals. That person's duties are only to facilitate and assist with the negationations and contract issues related to obtaining and executing a NIL deal.
That should not be murky but the NCAA has failed to make it clear where the lines are so it is considerably murkier than it should be.
Posted on 1/9/22 at 9:39 am to Ikneauxnuffin
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75% of past LSU players to declare.
This is flat out false, why do people believe such stupid shite?
Posted on 1/9/22 at 9:42 am to PhillyTiger90
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3) Some guys don’t get good NFL evaluations and DGAF and leave anyway
And these guys went to LSU
Posted on 1/9/22 at 9:50 am to memphis tiger
Let’s play a game::
If you we’re to receive a ___ round grade as a draft eligible underclassman, you would declare early.
What would that number have to be?
If you we’re to receive a ___ round grade as a draft eligible underclassman, you would declare early.
What would that number have to be?
Posted on 1/9/22 at 9:56 am to H-Town Tiger
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This is flat out false, why do people believe such stupid shite?
Because the majority of people here have an IQ equal to, or lower, than the person saying it, so they just accept it as fact.
Posted on 1/9/22 at 10:01 am to Ikneauxnuffin
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Let’s play a game::
If you we’re to receive a ___ round grade as a draft eligible underclassman, you would declare early.
What would that number have to be?
That's not a one size fits all decision. York for example, will probably not get a high round grade, simply because he is a kicker. He won't improve on that by coming back.
Some kids may have reached their ceiling at a lower round grade, if they don't have much they can physically improve on.
Some kids may be able to improve with another year of college, but the next draft class looked stacked versus a weak draft class at the position this year.
It's not as simple as, "I have a 5th round grade, so I should return."
Posted on 1/9/22 at 10:07 am to Ikneauxnuffin
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Let’s play a game::
If you we’re to receive a ___ round grade as a draft eligible underclassman, you would declare early.
What would that number have to be
Lighten up Francis.
Posted on 1/9/22 at 11:16 am to Stiffy
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If player signs with an agent, it’s over.
It’s not just signing with an agent. When an underclassman receives “special eligibility” to enter the draft (meaning the NFL approves them as an early entrants) they agree to renounce all remaining collegiate eligibility. They have 72 hours following the draft declaration deadline (1/17) to withdraw from the draft and return to school. If they do not withdraw by that deadline, they lose their eligibility.
Posted on 1/9/22 at 11:49 am to Ikneauxnuffin
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Let’s play a game::
If you we’re to receive a ___ round grade as a draft eligible underclassman, you would declare early.
What would that number have to be
It depends on a lot of things:
-Will I improve my draft stock by returning?
-Will this year's class (at my position) be stronger or weaker than next year's class?
-Am I a good student who will graduate?
-How badly does my family need the money?
-Is my heart in the college game?
Trying to universally decide which round works for every player is not an effective way to approach this.
This post was edited on 1/9/22 at 11:50 am
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