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re: Burrow has a slightly stronger arm than Haskins in direct competitions
Posted on 3/22/19 at 11:02 pm to TheAstroTiger
Posted on 3/22/19 at 11:02 pm to TheAstroTiger
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I wouldn't go as far as saying Joe isn't a first rounder
I will, he's not a first rounder. Third would be a REALLY good landing spot for him.
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Posted on 3/22/19 at 11:03 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
Pretty Sure Torrey Smith would have preferred the ball than a PI
Keep acting like good QBs prefer PI to TDs.
You’re a fricking joke
Keep acting like good QBs prefer PI to TDs.
You’re a fricking joke
This post was edited on 3/22/19 at 11:06 pm
Posted on 3/22/19 at 11:17 pm to SaintInBham
He is nowhere near a first rounder right now 
Posted on 3/22/19 at 11:40 pm to SammyTiger
Hopefully anyone who has followed this guy’s comments knows there is something wrong with this dude. After TigrLee and this guy, I will assume any person who names themselves after a player will be a bit psycho.
Posted on 3/23/19 at 12:35 am to Tigerpride18
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Here's a link to where they have burrow now for the 2020 draft.
There is no way Burrow goes higher than four of those top 5 next year meaning he doesn't go first round.
I'm not saying all them go first round because that's stupid. What I am saying is that even if Burrow throws for 3500 yards and 30 TDs next year, he still won't go higher than four of those top five.
Posted on 3/23/19 at 1:48 am to bencoleman
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This sounds nitpicky.
Its not. Planned underthrow isnt a thing
Posted on 3/23/19 at 1:50 am to The First Cut
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A back shoulder pass in football is a type of throw where the quarterback aims the ball to intersect with the path of a receiver just behind him as he runs down the field. It is an offensive tactic that takes advantage of a fundamental defensive rule by breaking a fundamental offensive rule.
Thats not a planned underthrow on a deep ball. Back sholder throws actually exist and Buckeye outright said he wasnt talking about back shoulder passes.....
quote:
Backshoulder is similar, but somewhat different.
This post was edited on 3/23/19 at 1:56 am
Posted on 3/23/19 at 2:00 am to Buckeye Jeaux
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The dude is so damn cocksure - a sure sign of stupi
Anyone with an elementary level knowledge of football knows that underthrown deep balls arent planned.
You have never in your life heard anyone say," That qb's underthrow on the deep ball is a thing of beauty and i dont know why more teams dont do it".
Posted on 3/23/19 at 7:53 am to Rickdaddy4188
quote:So you freely admit that QB/WRs use underthrown passes on back-shoulder passes (which are usually 5 to 15 yards near the sideline). Highly effective tactic against press-man coverage when the DB keeps his eyes on the WR.
Back sholder throws actually exist and Buckeye outright said he wasnt talking about back shoulder passes....
The same tactic works on long balls away from the sideline in man-to-man where the DB has eyes-on-the-WR. Far easier to mis-direct a speedy CB than it is to outrun him.
But Sammy never heard of it. So, in Sammy's world, IT CAN"T BE TRUE!!!!
What an ignorant putz!
This post was edited on 3/23/19 at 8:00 am
Posted on 3/23/19 at 7:55 am to Rickdaddy4188
quote:
This sounds nitpicky.
Its not. Planned underthrow isnt a thing
You're arguing over terminology. While he may not have called it exactly what it's normally called it basically amounts to the same thing. Or close to it. You are just picking something to argue about.
I don't think that there's an argument over Joe's arm strength. He can easily make all of the throws. It's been shown that a QB doesn't have to have a cannon for an arm to do this. There are several QBs that are known for having a great arm that are really closer to average.
Posted on 3/23/19 at 10:48 am to Buckeye Jeaux
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So you freely admit that QB/WRs use underthrown passes on back-shoulder passes (which are usually 5 to 15 yards near the sideline). Highly effective tactic against press-man coverage when the DB keeps his eyes on the WR.
You straight up said you werent talking about back shoulder passes dumbass. God youre stupid
Posted on 3/23/19 at 10:51 am to bencoleman
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You're arguing over terminology. While he may not have called it exactly what it's normally called it basically amounts to the same thing. Or close to it. You are just picking something to argue about.
Its not terminology. He said "more often than not underthrown balls are planned". Thats not true.
quote:
don't think that there's an argument over Joe's arm strength. He can easily make all of the throws. It's been shown that a QB doesn't have to have a cannon for an arm to do this. There are several QBs that are known for having a great arm that are really closer to average.
Ive never argued Joe's arm strenght. Just that there are these qbs that are trying to under throw the go route.
Posted on 3/23/19 at 11:44 am to Rickdaddy4188
quote:AS usual, you are trying to manipulate the discussion - this time by taking words out of context (and by changing the words in the manipulated so-called "Quote").
Its not terminology. He said "more often than not underthrown balls are planned". Thats not true.
Here's the full quote:
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And it is also a false premise. Underthrows are more often than not, either part of the planned route (let the DB keep going full speed past the point the ball comes down) - or lack of timing and chemistry between the QB & WR - to be expected when they have had less than a year to work together
And your cohort Sammy Tiger ABSURDLY uses 3 video clips of Burrow COMPLETING big-play long throws to his WRs as FAULTS IN JOE"S PASSING GAME??????? The dude is a football moron!!!!!!
Here's a link to Sammy's dumber-than-shite examples of Joe's "WEAKNESS" - about 1/3 down the page.
LINK
Sammy's examples of Joe's "frick-ups":
29 yard completion (in the air)
35 yard completion (in the air)
40 yard completion (in the air)
wow
This post was edited on 3/23/19 at 12:17 pm
Posted on 3/23/19 at 12:54 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
Still there is no such thing as a planned underthrow on a deep route.
A back shoulder pass isnt a planned underthrow. Its a throw to the back shoulder. Its not underthrowing.
You dont know what youre talking about.
A back shoulder pass isnt a planned underthrow. Its a throw to the back shoulder. Its not underthrowing.
You dont know what youre talking about.
Posted on 3/23/19 at 1:07 pm to Rickdaddy4188
Yes, underthrows on the long-ball, as a tactic (versus press man coverage), have been around since Johnny Unitas. And Cardale Jones/Devin Smith killed with them against Bama, Oregon, and Wisconsin.
No real point in discussing football with Rickdaddy. He posts fake quotes and quotes out of context.
No real point in discussing football with Rickdaddy. He posts fake quotes and quotes out of context.
This post was edited on 3/23/19 at 1:11 pm
Posted on 3/23/19 at 3:15 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
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The same tactic works on long balls away from the sideline in man-to-man where the DB has eyes-on-the-WR. Far easier to mis-direct a speedy CB than it is to outrun him. But Sammy never heard of it. So, in Sammy's world, IT CAN"T BE TRUE!!!!
Lol I literally Started this BS arguement saying Burrow underthrows WRs who are past their Cb.
Meaning outran then.
You’re the fricking retakes suggesting it’s a good idea to underthrows those WRs.
Posted on 3/23/19 at 3:16 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
No he doesn’t
Posted on 3/23/19 at 4:03 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
quote:
Yes, underthrows on the long-ball, as a tactic (versus press man coverage), have been around since Johnny Unitas. And Cardale Jones/Devin Smith killed with them against Bama, Oregon, and Wisconsin.
No real point in discussing football with Rickdaddy. He posts fake quotes and quotes out of contex
No there isnt dumbass. You have never in your life heard a qb say they purposely underthrew a 9 route.
Please post any qb ever saying that. And dont try use backshoulder qoutes as you outright said it wasnt back shoulder.
You dont know football at an elementary level. The purpose of a deep ball is too out it out there and let your wr run under it and catch it in stride.
Youre a dumbass that is football ignorant and everyone who knows football on here can see it.
Planned underthrow
fricking clown
Its not a misqoute to say yoou said the vast majority are planned underthrows or timing issues.
Do you know when timing is an issue? When qbs dont have strong arms and have to throw the deep ball early so that that they dont underthrow the ball.youre football ignorant and anyone that knows football can see it.
This post was edited on 3/23/19 at 4:08 pm
Posted on 3/23/19 at 4:56 pm to Rickdaddy4188
Here's what I heard a QB say:
QB: Gee.. the underthrow has worked on back-shoulder side line passes for 60 years or so. But we can't use an underthrow downfield.
WR: Um... Why
QB: Cause Tricky Ricky never heard pf it.
WR: Absolutely NOT then.
Tricky Ricky never heard of it - so it does not exist. (that's the definition of the word "Simpleton")
QB: Gee.. the underthrow has worked on back-shoulder side line passes for 60 years or so. But we can't use an underthrow downfield.
WR: Um... Why
QB: Cause Tricky Ricky never heard pf it.
WR: Absolutely NOT then.
Tricky Ricky never heard of it - so it does not exist. (that's the definition of the word "Simpleton")
This post was edited on 3/23/19 at 5:08 pm
Posted on 3/23/19 at 5:31 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
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Ron Jaworski entered the NFL in 1974 as a second-round draft pick from Youngstown (Ohio) State; in '77 he became a full-time starter; in '80 he led the Eagles to the Super Bowl; and in '90 he retired. The back-shoulder throw wasn't part of his Eagles playbook. Instead, "What we had was the long-ball underthrow," says Jaworski, 62, and now an ESPN analyst. "Your receiver couldn't get past the defender, so you would lob it up short and let him come back to it. It was not done with anything resembling the precision that these guys have today."
The back-shoulder always used the sideline. The underthrow could be used anywhere - from a short hook to a fly inside or outside the hash marks.
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