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Posted on 9/15/17 at 12:54 pm to
Posted by redfishfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2015
4352 posts
Posted on 9/15/17 at 12:54 pm to
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Bout the 3rd or 4th time I've heard that from different sources. Where the hell are they getting that?!?!?! Lol.


Most likely heard we have two freshman rotating on the OL and took it as they both would maybe play at the same time or just can't comprehend English because they are
State fans.
Posted by wilceaux
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2004
12396 posts
Posted on 9/15/17 at 12:57 pm to
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Both defenses look better on paper due to the opponents they've played


I'll allow it.
Posted by LosLobos111
Austere
Member since Feb 2011
45385 posts
Posted on 9/15/17 at 1:00 pm to
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will quit watching football entirely if Moo State drops 34 on us.


Chavis aint walking through that door

Maybe have us confused with A&M

This post was edited on 9/15/17 at 1:02 pm
Posted by TittyBread
BR
Member since Aug 2017
91 posts
Posted on 9/15/17 at 1:05 pm to
Listen to that show after the game and post what they say on here after. Anxious to hear what went wrong when we kick their arse
Posted by TFS4E
Washington DC
Member since Nov 2008
13122 posts
Posted on 9/15/17 at 1:09 pm to
Just posted this in another thread:

quote:

Since 1998, LSU is 17-2 against MSU

LSU has outscored MSU 678-283 in that timeframe

The 2 losses were by 1 pt and 5 pt (1999 & 2014)

The average margin of victory is about 20 pt

Since 2010 the average margin of victory is about 12 pt

The largest MOV was 51 pt in 2004 when LSU won 51-0

The smallest MOV was 2 pt in 2015 when LSU won 21-19




I can add that the average score is 35-15
Posted by skirpnasty
Atlantis
Member since Aug 2012
10781 posts
Posted on 9/15/17 at 1:22 pm to
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-State overall looks like the better football team


At this point in the season, it's hard to say either team "looks" better. State may be more rounded on offense, but we have a different approach so that really doesn't mean much. Overall, both have looked the part. I give the edge to LSU just because we know there is an overall talent gap and as a realist, even after all the improvement under Mullen, this is a game we should lose most years.

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-Danny Etling is not a QB that will make any plays and State will probably intercept one of his passes


This one is worded crudely but isn't all that much of a stretch. I don't think Etling is good enough to win all the big games with his arm for you guys, he just hasn't shown the ability to do that (yet). Our defense last year was one of the worst in the country against the pass, so that game really isn't a good metric.

So while I don't think Etling is all world, he doesn't have to be, he just needs to be able to complete enough throws to make us defend it. The running game is your strength, this is no secret.

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-No Beckham or Landry running out of the tunnel, LSU only has Chark


They are correct here at least in that no Beckham or Landry is running onto the field, for either of us.

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-They expect Jeff Simmons to get all of the attention but Montez Sweat will go off


This would not surprise me, but I don't think it's overly likely. This is obviously just their takes on what we COULD see, since it's a very specific prediction. Simmons is very very good, don't think I've ever seen a DL prospect with his combination of size and athleticism. He probably draws a double team all night, if that opens up the window for someone else to show out it will be Sweat or Gerri Green. The problem here is that you guys don't pass much at all, so any pressure on the QB will probably depend on forcing 3rd and long situations.

Green is going to be a surprise star for us this year, he's been moved all over the field and is finally at the position he is built for. Thank god we got a competent DC, can't tell you how miserable last years defense was to watch.


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-MSU OL apparently has a potential first rounder and they'll run it at LSU with Aeris Williams to try to break the LSU front 7


This one is true. Our RT is a preseason all American and can be a first round pick. Has given up zero pressures and zero sacks so far, albeit against cupcakes obviously. We will definitely try to run the ball with Aeris and Kylin. When Mullens offense is at its best (think 2014), we evenly distribute between the pass and run game. In 2014 it was almost 50/50 on the nose.

However, it remains to be seen if we will be able to run the ball. I will say this, I personally think we have to be able to effectively move the chains with our RB's if we want to win this game. So if there is a point to watch, IMO that's it.

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-Leo Lewis will play "pissed off" and steal the show


Lewis is really good, that isn't news. I don't know why he would play pissed off, seems like he's on pretty good terms with LSU, as are most of our players who were recruited by them. Mullen and O apparently have a bromance so I expect a pretty friendly competition.

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-Best chance MSU has to beat LSU ever said one of the guys (including 2014)


It's a similar situation, but I don't agree with them. I can see a ton of future NFL talent on this team, so in that way it's similar to '14. But is Fitz ready to make the plays with his arm that Dak did? Are our RB's and OL ready to move the chains like Robinson and the OL did? I'm not so certain...


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-Both defenses look better on paper due to the opponents they've played


Again, this is probably true but it's also pretty obvious and goes the same for everyone else. I believe we will see two good defenses Saturday.



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Just some opinions from a State poster.

I think our squad has a ton of upside, and can potentially be very good. There is a whole lot more talent on this team than non State fans realize. However, I really don't think this is the year. With only a handful of seniors, I question how we will step up to the big games. Personally, next year is the season I would circle for a big season, going to be loaded.
This post was edited on 9/15/17 at 1:29 pm
Posted by LaBR4
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
50702 posts
Posted on 9/15/17 at 1:24 pm to
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State overall looks like the better football team 


With wins over Charleston Southern and La Tech..

This post was edited on 9/15/17 at 1:26 pm
Posted by TIGERsinceCONCEPTION
Uptown New Orleans
Member since Jan 2009
1088 posts
Posted on 9/15/17 at 1:28 pm to
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skirpnasty


That post was far too logical to be on TRant. Good luck this weekend.
Posted by ExpoTiger
Member since Jul 2014
6457 posts
Posted on 9/15/17 at 1:28 pm to
I don't expect to them say that they will lose but there is some real delusion in this fanbase. Borderline retardation in their overall thinking. Their evaluations dont even seem to be fact based at all. It's like they think they are bama. A team we have beaten about %75 of the time historically and what, 18 or 19 of the last 20?? But yes they have the better team overall and they should feel almost drunkenly confident that they will win by multiple scores. Sound logic.
Posted by dbonnett
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2016
437 posts
Posted on 9/15/17 at 1:30 pm to
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Send me a link so I can listen to the melt after the game. It should be a good one.


I don't think they will melt that much after we win the game because losing is in their nature. It's what they are good at.
Posted by Dudebro2
San Diego
Member since Dec 2011
8967 posts
Posted on 9/15/17 at 1:36 pm to
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Either MSU is a lot better than we expect or their fanbase is delusional.


It is a little bit of both. If LSU fans think we are going to roll in there and stomp on them I think you will be disappointed. MSU's defense looks pretty damn good so far "playing nobody's but so did we," this is going to be a hard-fought ballgame MSU playing at home is always an advantage for the home team. This is going to be a one score ball game, but LSU prevails.

Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Feb 2006
20720 posts
Posted on 9/15/17 at 1:40 pm to
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State will probably intercept one of his passes


I mean it isn't all that far fetched to think Etling will throw a pick at some point this year.
Posted by Dock Holiday
Member since Sep 2015
1632 posts
Posted on 9/15/17 at 1:49 pm to
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skirpnasty 


Legit quality breakdown.

How many SEC quality playmakers does Fitz have surrounding him? By quality, I mean, have an on field impact in more than 50% of the teams in the SEC. Fitz will make some plays, but I question the supporting cast around him and thier abilty to keep LSU honest, and no one seems to be asking that question.

I ask because LSU is trotting out a defense that is loaded with talent at every level and they are coached by a DC that is next nevel.
This post was edited on 9/15/17 at 1:50 pm
Posted by tigers1956
baton rouge
Member since Oct 2008
4760 posts
Posted on 9/15/17 at 1:55 pm to
The tigers will win...it might be close for a half...but that's it..LSU 28-10
Posted by djrunner
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
5318 posts
Posted on 9/15/17 at 2:01 pm to
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I'll lick a crack whore in the arse if Moo St scores 24 or more point on us. I doubt we give up 24 points to anyteam we play this year.



Really?
We will have a better idea of our team defense after this week. They are good and well coached but young and we haven't seen a true test as of yet.
Posted by LSUButt
Lowcountry
Member since Jan 2006
14928 posts
Posted on 9/15/17 at 2:03 pm to
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State overall looks like the better football team


How?

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MSU OL apparently has a potential first rounder and they'll run it at LSU with Aeris Williams to try to break the LSU front 7


Rankin is great...but there is a guy named Arden Key that will be coming back...

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Leo Lewis will play "pissed off" and steal the show


If he's not in court talking about all the money people gave him

quote:

34-24 Mississsippi State



If MSU scores 34 points on us..we won't make a bowl game
Posted by LSUButt
Lowcountry
Member since Jan 2006
14928 posts
Posted on 9/15/17 at 2:08 pm to
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We will have a better idea of our team defense after this week. They are good and well coached but young and we haven't seen a true test as of yet.


Are we that young? Lac and Gilmore have been around the program since Nam. Alexander has been here a long time and got lots of snaps last year, and White has started since last season. Battle is a Jr, Paris is a 20th year Senior, Donte/KT are both JR's, Corey Thompson was here during Prohibition.

I think because we have Delpit, rotate some young guys on the DL, have 2 STUD LBers that we have liked getting a few snaps, and Greedy is a RS Fr that people want to act like our defense is incredibly young.

At the end of the day, we will be playing with a good bit of 2 down linemen unless they just run it at will on us. Neil Farrell and Justin Thomas probably won't see more than 9-10 snaps between the two of them total. Donnie and White, this is the perfect game for their speed. We may put Taylor in for a series or two but it won't be a ton. So now you're talking about Kary Vincent and Delpit getting the most snaps for FR and Chaisson coming on for Key in certain situations. I just don't buy that we are THAT young.
This post was edited on 9/15/17 at 2:09 pm
Posted by skirpnasty
Atlantis
Member since Aug 2012
10781 posts
Posted on 9/15/17 at 2:10 pm to
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How many SEC quality playmakers does Fitz have surrounding him? By quality, I mean, have an on field impact in more than 50% of the teams in the SEC. Fitz will make some plays, but I question the supporting cast around him and thier abilty to keep LSU honest, and no one seems to be asking that question.


This is one of the big ?'s for us.

At WR, Donald Gray is really good. I think would start for almost every, if not every, team in the league. Not surprisingly, we've been spreading the ball around a lot (nobody caught more than 3 passes in the opener) so it's hard to say who we will go to a lot now that the actual season is here. Aside from him, we have some promising younger WR's, the problem is how much they will or won't step up is a complete wild card.

We have three very talented TE's, who I expect we target a lot tomorrow night.

And at RB we have Aeris, who is solid and can grind out consistent yardage. What he's lacking is the break away speed that Guice for example has. Still, I think he's definitely a top 6-8 back in the league. Behind him we have a true freshman in Kylin Hill, who is incredibly talented. He will get some carries and is a future talent in this league, but again he is still a true freshman.

In comparison to '14... I think RB is probably a wash. Aeris and Kylin are going to account for a lot of yards this year. At WR Mixon is very similar to lewis. What we are missing there is the big threat we had in DeRunnya, if that guy is on this team it will be a freshman/sophomore who hasn't completely emerged yet. However, I think Gray can and should be better than any WR on the '14 team. And at TE we are probably hands down better and deeper than I've ever seen us.

So, yes, we do have weapons surrounding Fitz. But there is still a lot of unknown as to what exactly we have at WR, which is going to be crucial.
This post was edited on 9/15/17 at 2:31 pm
Posted by Dock Holiday
Member since Sep 2015
1632 posts
Posted on 9/15/17 at 2:23 pm to
It seems outside of Fitz you don't have a ton of big play ability and you'll have to patiently march down the field to score. That does not sound like a recipe for success against the LSU defense.

DeRunna was a beast and I remember your OL being filthy good and mean in 2014, I don't see an example of either on this MSU team.
Posted by skirpnasty
Atlantis
Member since Aug 2012
10781 posts
Posted on 9/15/17 at 2:34 pm to
OL is going to be good, 2014 had the same problem to be honest. DeRunnya was a big bodied guy but wasn't a big play threat, that was more of Fred Ross. Robinson broke some long runs due to his ability to make guys miss.

Gray is more of a big play WR than we had in '14, he can make some absurd catches and can flat out fly. I am just personally undecided on Fitz's ability to consistently get the ball to him. But all in all, you're right, this offense will rely on consistency, which is why I'm still on the fence about Fitz.
This post was edited on 9/15/17 at 2:35 pm
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