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Brief Education on NCAA Rules and Criminal Laws
Posted on 3/14/22 at 10:04 pm
Posted on 3/14/22 at 10:04 pm
Just to clear up some of the uneducated statements circulating. Wade did not do anything “illegal.” NCAA rules are not criminal violations.
Below is a link to the NOA, 2 people in that NOA committed crimes, Funes and the ex fiancé, not Wade.
LINK
Despite Forde’s sensationalized article, nothing Wade did makes him a morally bad person. I personally do not have any moral issues with what he did. He was finding a way of providing athletes (mainly African American athletes) a piece of the multi-Million dollar pie that they create.
Is it a violation of NCAA rules that are selectively enforced, absolutely. Was he sloppy in how he did it, absolutely. It is clear LSU did not have the infrastructure to get these deals done without his involvement. The take away is the schools with established infrastructure are the ones that get it done and never questioned, such as the Red Elephant Club.
Would have been nice if LSU had the proper channels in place to get deals done with players and Wade would be in year 5 without all this crap out there.
Instead, we’re in a serious rebuild situation.
Below is a link to the NOA, 2 people in that NOA committed crimes, Funes and the ex fiancé, not Wade.
LINK
Despite Forde’s sensationalized article, nothing Wade did makes him a morally bad person. I personally do not have any moral issues with what he did. He was finding a way of providing athletes (mainly African American athletes) a piece of the multi-Million dollar pie that they create.
Is it a violation of NCAA rules that are selectively enforced, absolutely. Was he sloppy in how he did it, absolutely. It is clear LSU did not have the infrastructure to get these deals done without his involvement. The take away is the schools with established infrastructure are the ones that get it done and never questioned, such as the Red Elephant Club.
Would have been nice if LSU had the proper channels in place to get deals done with players and Wade would be in year 5 without all this crap out there.
Instead, we’re in a serious rebuild situation.
This post was edited on 3/14/22 at 11:23 pm
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Posted on 3/14/22 at 10:12 pm to ellessuuuu
Furthermore the things Wade was doing to help these kids was a lot more difficult pre-NIL than they are right now. In the NIL world we live in now Wade does not get busted by the NCAA.
I hope the next coach we get is another young aggressive up and comer like Todd Golden and he works with TAF to facilitate NIL deals for our recruits and really rubs the blue bloods and Pat Forde raw. I hope the LSU infrastructure surrounds the new coach with a vengeance of support.
I hope the next coach we get is another young aggressive up and comer like Todd Golden and he works with TAF to facilitate NIL deals for our recruits and really rubs the blue bloods and Pat Forde raw. I hope the LSU infrastructure surrounds the new coach with a vengeance of support.
Posted on 3/14/22 at 10:17 pm to ellessuuuu
Hes just the fall guy.. ..for it all
Posted on 3/14/22 at 10:28 pm to ellessuuuu
My God what a crock of justifying this BS situation.
So rule, policies and requirements of YOUR job mean nothing to YOU because they're not criminal? So your boss has no problems with you selling inside information to your competitors? There's no moral issues with your wife cheating because it's not criminal? You people will go to any lengths to whitewash this for Saint WW. Pathetic. What would you say if WW was blackmailed into throwing games for the highest bidder?
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I personally do not have any moral issues with what he did
So rule, policies and requirements of YOUR job mean nothing to YOU because they're not criminal? So your boss has no problems with you selling inside information to your competitors? There's no moral issues with your wife cheating because it's not criminal? You people will go to any lengths to whitewash this for Saint WW. Pathetic. What would you say if WW was blackmailed into throwing games for the highest bidder?
Posted on 3/14/22 at 10:33 pm to NorthSider72
Dude you missed the boat completely. All the things you mentioned violate laws and/or are morally wrong.
Paying someone their value is neither criminally wrong nor morally wrong. If it were not against a rule, there would be nothing wrong with it.
In all of the examples you gave there is a victim. Who the hell is “victim” for people getting paid their value?
You are so determined to prove that he is a morally bad person that you compared paying players to cheating on a spouse, misappropriation of confidential information, and point shaving. Come on man, you’re not that dumb are you?
Paying someone their value is neither criminally wrong nor morally wrong. If it were not against a rule, there would be nothing wrong with it.
In all of the examples you gave there is a victim. Who the hell is “victim” for people getting paid their value?
You are so determined to prove that he is a morally bad person that you compared paying players to cheating on a spouse, misappropriation of confidential information, and point shaving. Come on man, you’re not that dumb are you?
This post was edited on 3/14/22 at 10:34 pm
Posted on 3/14/22 at 10:38 pm to ellessuuuu
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ellessuuuu
Thank you for this.
It has been both astonishing and infuriating (and honestly another reason to be concerned about the stupidity of our society) to read the number of people who continuously act as if Wade had broken laws and committed crimes, and that he is this morally corrupt person that is the scourge of the Earth.
Or the ones shouting “FBI this and FBI that” while never even comprehending that LSU was never once a part of or the focus of the FBI investigation that started all this. In fact, if not for the freaking defense attorney leaking the damn tapes/transcripts to media, then the Will Wade line never even gets out there to begin with as that tape was never even admitted into evidence and therefore should have never been for public access and consumption.
Posted on 3/14/22 at 10:42 pm to TigerLaw40
We are in Louisiana after all……still at the bottom in overall education statistics.
Posted on 3/14/22 at 10:46 pm to TigerLaw40
People like Forde have only fueled this crap. In the article he released over the weekend, he made the following statement:
“No wonder the con-man basketball coach felt right at home there.”
He’s pretty close to crossing the line to opening himself up to liability. Again, Wade’s accused of paying athletes and paying an individual that extorted him. Not sure how that makes him a con man.
“No wonder the con-man basketball coach felt right at home there.”
He’s pretty close to crossing the line to opening himself up to liability. Again, Wade’s accused of paying athletes and paying an individual that extorted him. Not sure how that makes him a con man.
This post was edited on 3/14/22 at 10:52 pm
Posted on 3/14/22 at 11:08 pm to ellessuuuu
You’re absolutely right. This happening to coach Wade is a great example of how sophisticated some schools are. He came to compete on the same court as the big boys but without the infrastructure.
Posted on 3/14/22 at 11:38 pm to ellessuuuu
Shouldn’t charges be pressed on the girl for extortion?
Posted on 3/15/22 at 3:32 am to ellessuuuu
Great post!
Just all the more reason we should have stood firm and told the ncaa to kick rocks - they’re a useless vestigial organization.
Just all the more reason we should have stood firm and told the ncaa to kick rocks - they’re a useless vestigial organization.
Posted on 3/15/22 at 4:53 am to ellessuuuu
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In all of the examples you gave there is a victim. Who the hell is “victim” for people getting paid their value?
For the sake of argument, it could be said that the victims are the teams who played by the rules. He cheated and in doing so gained an unfair advantage. And yes, I know all teams cheat.
Posted on 3/15/22 at 5:29 am to ellessuuuu
Solid post. Well articulated. Lsu probably has a better infrastructure now. We got unlucky that Will was caught on that wiretap
Posted on 3/15/22 at 6:08 am to ellessuuuu
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ellessuuuu
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All the things you mentioned violate laws
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Paying someone their value is neither criminally wrong
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Dude you missed the boat completely
There is this thing called taxes, W-9's and such that are required to be used for monies being paid for income.
The one good thing about NIL is athletes will be paying their share of the pie.
Or they may spend all the money and leave college with a huge debt to the IRS. Hopefully the ones paying these NIL contracts are withholding taxes for these young kids that may have never received income.
Posted on 3/15/22 at 6:40 am to LCTFAN
Will she be issued a 1099?
Posted on 3/15/22 at 6:53 am to NorthSider72
I’m any other business, the NCAA’s rules would be an illegal restraint of trade. Smart people like the OP object to the NCAA’s rules for that reason. The other issues you cited are applied universally or between adults.
Posted on 3/15/22 at 7:06 am to ellessuuuu
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People like Forde
He should be roasted for his hypocrisy, his comical hyperobole, his laziness and gutlessness.
Posted on 3/15/22 at 7:09 am to LCTFAN
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There is this thing called taxes, W-9's and such that are required to be used for monies being paid for income.
Taxation is theft
Posted on 3/15/22 at 7:18 am to ellessuuuu
This is the epitome of a straw man argument. It doesn't matter that what he did is not criminal. What matters is that he violated NCAA regulations and they have the evidence to support it. Woodward had no choice but to try and mitigate the damage. I don't know why this is so difficult for some of you to grasp.
Posted on 3/15/22 at 7:20 am to ellessuuuu
We're not talking about governmental laws here. Duh
Does it really matter that in the NCAA world it's being called illegal instead of a violation?
Does it really matter that in the NCAA world it's being called illegal instead of a violation?
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