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BR More money placed on the Bulldogs to cover the spread

Posted on 10/18/19 at 7:27 am
Posted by TrueTigerTale
Zachary, La.
Member since Sep 2011
19318 posts
Posted on 10/18/19 at 7:27 am
On 104.5, they noted the spread has dropped a bit, more money being placed on the Bulldogs to cover than the Tigers. I expected Vegas to open around 21, but it opened much lower, what does Vegas know? They obviously didn’t know much about the SC game with Ga.

I’m optimistically cautious, old enough to remember some heartbreaks in Starkville with John Bond. Tigers should cover, but some key turnovers or dropped passes in a wet game played away in the SEC could make this closer than expected.
This post was edited on 10/18/19 at 7:33 am
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
23979 posts
Posted on 10/18/19 at 7:29 am to
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wet game


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Saturday A 20 percent chance of showers before 1pm. Partly sunny, with a high near 72. North northeast wind around 5 mph.


Forecast has improved as the week has gone on.

And I don't know if you missed it over the last two games, but the run game is becoming a bigger factor even it if were to be a wet game.
This post was edited on 10/18/19 at 7:31 am
Posted by Drfager
Member since Dec 2015
147 posts
Posted on 10/18/19 at 7:30 am to
Wet game? It is only a 10-20% chance of rain. We cover by halftime.
Posted by GeauxLSUGeaux
1 room down from Erin Andrews
Member since May 2004
23280 posts
Posted on 10/18/19 at 7:31 am to
They’re playing at State and our defense has given up points against worse offenses.
Posted by The First Cut
Member since Apr 2012
13943 posts
Posted on 10/18/19 at 7:32 am to
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what does Vegas know?


Posted by Sev09
Nantucket
Member since Feb 2011
15554 posts
Posted on 10/18/19 at 7:32 am to
I think Vegas is STILL struggling with valuing our offense. I suppose they’re also thinking a road game against a middle-of-the-road SEC team, after a physical win again Florida spells letdown game.
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
23979 posts
Posted on 10/18/19 at 7:34 am to
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I think Vegas is STILL struggling with valuing our offense. I suppose they’re also thinking a road game against a middle-of-the-road SEC team, after a physical win again Florida spells letdown game.


Yeah, it is a classic sandwich/trap game between UF and Auburn.
Posted by Jp1LSU
Fiji
Member since Oct 2005
2542 posts
Posted on 10/18/19 at 7:35 am to
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I expected Vegas to open around 21, but it opened much lower, what does Vegas know? They obviously didn’t know much about the SC game with Ga


This statement sounds like someone who doesn’t understand how lines are made and with what strategic purpose.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 10/18/19 at 7:36 am to
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more money being placed on the Bulldogs to cover than the Tigers.


Everything I have found says the betting is heavy on LSU... Anyone have any "Public Money" charts that say otherwise??

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Spread: LSU: -19.5 (-105) | MSST: +19.5 (-115)
Total: 61.5 – Over: (-110) | Under: (-110)
Public (Spread) Betting Percentages: LSU: 82% | MSST: 18%

LINK
This post was edited on 10/18/19 at 7:37 am
Posted by tigertyler
Bogie's
Member since Sep 2016
851 posts
Posted on 10/18/19 at 7:36 am to
All of these things would lead someone to take MSU +18:

LSU just won an big/emotional game, and now they have to travel to Starkville to play a subpar opponent.

LSU will likely take a lot of starters out of the game if they get a commanding lead to rest them for next week.

Next week the Tigers play a Top 10 Opponent. This is a classic sandwich game: beat big opponent | play shitty opponent | play another big opponent

All of that being said, I bet on LSU to cover the opening spread of -19 and I bet it again at -17. I am banking on Coach O having our boys focused and Ensminger/Brady keeping their foot on the gas on offense. MSU can't score with us. As long as the defense makes some stops this game should get ugly.

Tigers win 51-17
Posted by TrueTigerTale
Zachary, La.
Member since Sep 2011
19318 posts
Posted on 10/18/19 at 7:42 am to
Vegas doesn’t know how to value Ga, I can tell you that.
Posted by Jp1LSU
Fiji
Member since Oct 2005
2542 posts
Posted on 10/18/19 at 7:46 am to
LSU
ATS -17.5:
72%
3:30 PM ET
O/U: 62 MSST +17.5
MSST

ATS +17.5:
28%
Posted by mark fortney
guysville Ohio
Member since Sep 2018
153 posts
Posted on 10/18/19 at 7:49 am to
Rain won't slow us down at all.
Strong wind or a muddy field could but I don't see either of those being a problem Saturday.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59049 posts
Posted on 10/18/19 at 7:51 am to
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what does Vegas know? They obviously didn’t know much about the SC game with Ga.


yeah Vegas doesn’t know much because 1 game a large underdog won. The spread isn’t meant to be a prediction per se but we could pull up a hell of a lot games that were right on the number.

Btw Vegas probably cleaned up onUGA-SC
Posted by Jp1LSU
Fiji
Member since Oct 2005
2542 posts
Posted on 10/18/19 at 7:51 am to
Spreads are made to predict human behavior not the outcome of the game. A good line attracts equal betting on both sides of the line. Vegas doesn’t care if LSU is good or not, it cares about whether or not people will bet for them or against them. Vegas doesn’t care who wins, they want equal amounts of action and they get very nervous when the public is all betting one side or the other because it increases their exposure.
Posted by EasterEgg
New Orleans Metro
Member since Sep 2018
4810 posts
Posted on 10/18/19 at 7:53 am to
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more money being placed on the Bulldogs 

They call it Starkvegas for a reason.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 10/18/19 at 8:15 am to
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more money being placed on the Bulldogs


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They call it Starkvegas for a reason.

Except that 80%+ of the money is being placed on LSU... And the spread is NOT being jacked up to 25 or 30 points to encourage bets on Miss St.

And Alabama is -35 points over Tennessee & and the Vols beat Miss St last week.

Hmmm
Posted by DallasTiger45
Member since May 2012
8419 posts
Posted on 10/18/19 at 8:24 am to
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Spreads are made to predict human behavior not the outcome of the game.

No, lines are originated using complex algorithms based on hard data. There may be a little public perception baked in, but that might be a field goal at most.

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A good line attracts equal betting on both sides of the line. Vegas doesn’t care who wins, they want equal amounts of action and they get very nervous when the public is all betting one side or the other because it increases their exposure.

It might be nice for books to make all their money risk-free, but for most games that's a pipe dream. You have to remember that the way most books manage action is by moving the number. Well, anytime the number is moved the book is also exposed to people middling them- for example, someone bets State at +19 and LSU at -17, then the game lands LSU by 18.

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Vegas doesn’t care if LSU is good or not, it cares about whether or not people will bet for them or against them.

They absolutely care how good LSU is. Their business depends on it.

Even if books could make all their money by getting equal action on every game at the same number (LOL), would that even be the best option to maximize profits? Probably not. Think of it like investing in the stock market as opposed to keeping money in a savings account. Taking smart risks is where the money is really made.
Posted by Kool Kaliper
Mansfield, TX
Member since Nov 2018
366 posts
Posted on 10/18/19 at 8:42 am to
Vegas is hoping suckers take Miss St, us gamblers call it a "Sucker Bet". Take LSU, it's a 20% chance of rain, I like us covering 17.5.Vegas like to mess with gamblers head.
Posted by 3D
NJ
Member since Sep 2013
1025 posts
Posted on 10/18/19 at 8:55 am to
It all depends on the defense, we already know we are good for 4-5 TD's, now if the D holds them to FG's (like they did w Utah St) we are golden.
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