re: Blaming the fans for reacting negatively to poor decision making

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There’s a lot of apocalyptic thinkers that believe everything is terrible, awful and hopeless no matter what.

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When you have a coach like Ed Orgeron, this is logical thinking.

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Their mind is made up regardless of any information.

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If O can actually win games and improve the LSU program, everyone would get on board.

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If the news doesn’t fit their narrative, then just twist it until it does. It’s amazing to me how many on this site “know” exactly how everything will turn out. Their predictive skills are absolutely miraculous!

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The fact that a large portion of the O fanbase throws caution to the wind and "Nothing is predictable," "Plans, Vision, Strategy, Big Picture doesn't matter!" "Nothing matters, because you never know an outcome!" is troubling.

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You don’t understand that when you say someone else also did this it’s a comparison.

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If you could read or read AND comprehend you would have noticed what I said in my post.

"A team has NEVER hired a non coordinator who become successful."

Naming coaches who were never coordinators who became successful is not a comparison. It was pointing out to the airbags that they were wrong.

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Also Urban didn’t win a championship right away

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So ?

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Also Urban didn’t win a championship right away

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He won in year 2 and year 4 at UF.

reacting negatively is fine and certainly a fans right. but it is still just your opinion. reacting for months and months and months over the same thing is not simply called "reacting". it is an obsession. and the bitching is constant and the same things are said over and over again endlessly. some of you need to get a life. get a girlfriend, a job, a hobby, etc.

personally, any point you, and those like you, that think you are making a point have whined so much that most don't listen anymore. your own "cause" has been negated. in other words, your shite is old and extremely irksome.

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Dabo Swinney, Urban Meyer, Bobby Bowden among others were not coordinators and won championships

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Bowden- 73-32 as HC when hired FSU, OC at Samford and WVU.
Meyer- 39-8 when hired at UF, for all intensive purposes was HC and OC at BGU and Utah.
Dabo took over OC for 7 games after firing Spence and prior to being named HC at end of '08.

Orgeron- 10-25 when hired at LSU

Almost identical

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I, for the sake of LSU hope he is wildly successful!

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I agree. I wish we weren't having these conversations.

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However, I just simply don’t “know” the outcome yet.

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And that's fine. But the world is literally built on the idea of higher order thinking where we can make accurate predictions and adjust our behavior to that. Science. Math. Career. Personal stuff.

Literally everything. Being able to weigh multiple facts, emotions, laws and theories and operate is literally how we do everything.

Not knowing the outcome is true. Being able to predict the most likely series of events is also something that is possible, and a completely valid path to go down.

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Secondly, the quotations you used in the post certainly are not mine.

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I'm illustrating ideas in these types of responses via quoted phrases, because that's basically what you mean.

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Thirdly, you left off this weekend ‘s lottery numbers.

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The fact that people win the lottery is exactly the point. You would only be correct if no one ever won. Predictions, and accurate predictions are possible.

And I would never equate the risk assessment of evaluating a hire like Ed O to predicting the Lottery. The lottery is random. Ed Orgeron is not.

I read your BS and you were making shite up.

You lied about what other people said and you did make the comparisons.

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It's your opinion that the program is the same or falling further.

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And it’s your opinion that things are getting better, no?

So once again, your belief is based on hypotheticals for next year. You do realize that a super talented team can fail due to a coach that does not give them the best opportunity to win. Les did it for years and it is a fact that Orgeron has not had near the success that Miles has had as a head coach. I respect your positivity and I hope that your dream comes true, where Orgeron is successful. But all of your positivity is based on a coach who has consistently failed and underperformed. Beating Auburn did not make up for the other 4 embarrassing losses for me. They were also beaten by Clemson, UCF, and Georgia. Great win, but it did not make a 9-4 season with a bowl loss, any better. If Orgeron can show that he can have 1 season better than the guy that was just terminated or avoid having the worst recruiting class in the last decade, then I will begin to have more confidence. Until then, the doubt is well warranted. All it takes is winning to prove the doubters wrong, but he hasn't been able to do that at all in his career. Do you really believe that this recruiting class and the guys who were on the bench last year are going to just turn everything around for Orgeron? Time will tell, but 10-2 is the standard and your opinion won't change that. Miles consistently had at least 9 wins, so this past season was not a success in that regard. I don't think that anyone wanted to pay these huge buyouts for an identical result. I'm getting on a plane so I can't play with you anymore, but I still would like to know the record that you will consider successful? Obviously you thought 9-4 was great, but what about next year? The offensive talent is definitely an unknown and the the OC hire was pathetic, so I have a hard time seeing 10-2. Are you going to be ok with another 9-4 or 8-5 type season?

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Try not over reacting like a bunch of wom

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It’s amazing how much you people like to move the goalposts.

After you lose to Troy there is no such thing as overreacting!!