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Biggest statistic from today's loss
Posted on 12/16/17 at 5:53 pm
Posted on 12/16/17 at 5:53 pm
Duop Reath attempted 4 shots. Kid was 13-17 from the field against UNC. Wade needs to make sure Reath is getting more touches in the post. We can blame the loss on shortcomings from a defensive standpoint however getting our center going in the post has to be a bigger priority.
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Posted on 12/16/17 at 6:05 pm to basiletiger
He was getting trapped and double teamed every time he touched the ball, UNCW was not doing that... Hence the difference in production
Posted on 12/16/17 at 6:06 pm to Tigerfan7218
4 shot attempts. You can't tell me that's the reason he only attempted 4 shots. No way.
Posted on 12/16/17 at 6:16 pm to basiletiger
Biggest stats was a team that wasn't terribly efficient on offense coming into the game shot almost 50% ON THE ROAD AND WITHOUT THEIR BEST PLAYER IN SECOND HALF.
LSU's defense is horrible. Just as bad as last season and every statistic backs up that fact. Until they learn how to defend, the loses to good teams are going to pile up.
FTR: I like Wade. I think he's going to get it turned around eventually. But right now whatever he is teaching on defense is failing miserably. Part of it is lack of talent (particularly in the frontcourt). But this team has some athletes. They have no business being this bad on defense
LSU's defense is horrible. Just as bad as last season and every statistic backs up that fact. Until they learn how to defend, the loses to good teams are going to pile up.
FTR: I like Wade. I think he's going to get it turned around eventually. But right now whatever he is teaching on defense is failing miserably. Part of it is lack of talent (particularly in the frontcourt). But this team has some athletes. They have no business being this bad on defense
Posted on 12/16/17 at 6:21 pm to Alt26
That's a fair assessment.
Posted on 12/16/17 at 7:10 pm to basiletiger
Reath played like shite that’s why he didn’t get touches. He lost the ball a half dozen times threw away two passes for layups and missed countless open men because he has so much trouble when he’s trapped. Reath has offensive skills, he has 3pt range and a nice low to mid post game with touch but he’s not physical at all, he’s got weak hands, he’s struggles when pressured, he gets himself stuck under the goal on rebounds all of the time, he gets lost a lot on defense and isn’t very good using his size on defense either. The guy is 6-10 235lbs and averages 4.5 rebounds per game facing mostly smaller guys. That’s not a starting centers numbers and once league play starts the trade off of his offense won’t be worth his shortcomings on defense. Wade has even been playing he and Epps together a lot to take pressure off of Reath down low and it’s still not helping him rebound the ball. He had 2 rebounds in 23 minutes today and if he doesn’t get tough and physical really quick he’s going to be a reserve from now on.
Posted on 12/17/17 at 7:25 am to Madking
He's got to take more shot attempts for LSU to win games this year. 4 shot attempts will put LSU in the loss column. You can dissect his deficiencies all you want but at the end of the day we need his offense.
Posted on 12/17/17 at 8:32 am to Alt26
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FTR: I like Wade. I think he's going to get it turned around eventually. But right now whatever he is teaching on defense is failing miserably. Part of it is lack of talent (particularly in the frontcourt). But this team has some athletes. They have no business being this bad on defense
Wade has said he is flummoxed. Says he has never had a hard time with defense anywhere he's coached, except with this team of Johnny ballers.
Posted on 12/17/17 at 10:32 am to Madking
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he gets lost a lot on defense and isn’t very good using his size on defense either.
Yes, it was noticeable for me especially in this game. I can get his struggle on ball screens, many bigs struggle with this and he does not have the lateral quickness to deal efficiently there.
But SFA's smaller bigs were schooling him on straight up 1-on-1 post moves and his help defense on guys going to the rim was timid and ineffective. He has to do more there. As you said he has the size and length where he should be doing better in those areas. And he has to for us going forward.
Posted on 12/17/17 at 10:40 am to Tiger in NY
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Wade has said he is flummoxed. Says he has never had a hard time with defense anywhere he's coached, except with this team of Johnny ballers.
Old habits are hard to break. Athletically, the players are capable of playing solid defense. But solid defense is an attitude, a mindset, and doing the fundamental little things like help-side rotation, closing out on shooters. Most of it is court awareness and effort.
Posted on 12/17/17 at 11:21 am to basiletiger
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Biggest
We have a problem playing consistently good baseball. That's not unusual with a new staff taking over a bad program who is trying to mesh new players.
There will probably not be a quick fix a to team that's been bad for years. If the team is playing this inconsistent in February, we have a problem.
Posted on 12/17/17 at 12:47 pm to Tiger in NY
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Wade has said he is flummoxed. Says he has never had a hard time with defense anywhere he's coached, except with this team of Johnny ballers.
7 of the 12 scholarship players aren't Jones's. I like Wade. I think he's going to do well. But there are a lot of new faces on this team and they are getting the same results defensively. I never had a high opinion of Jones as a coach, but at some point you can't hang EVERYTHING that's happening with this team on him.
I think it's a very fair question to ask why the team is struggling so badly on defense (every bit as badly as they did last season) despite the new staff claiming to place a huge emphasis on defense and 7 new players that weren't a part of last season's terrible effort.
Posted on 12/17/17 at 12:59 pm to Tiger in NY
Well it's hard to correct bad habits that are ingrained
Thanks Johnny
Thanks Johnny
Posted on 12/17/17 at 1:16 pm to Alt26
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7 of the 12 scholarship players aren't Jones's. I like Wade. I think he's going to do well. But there are a lot of new faces on this team and they are getting the same results defensively. I never had a high opinion of Jones as a coach, but at some point you can't hang EVERYTHING that's happening with this team on him.
Most of the guys who play the most minutes are Jones'. Probably only Waters played like top 5 minutes, of the new guys
Posted on 12/17/17 at 2:36 pm to Tiger in NY
It really looked like a Johnny Jones team out there yesterday. Wade is doing the best he can, but it's still not good enough
Posted on 12/17/17 at 5:26 pm to basiletiger
I’m not knocking his offense and we will need him to contribute but hes so bad on defense and he gives the opponents extra possessions by not rebounding and turning the ball over. I’m not saying he should be buried on the end of the bench but he’s not a starter anymore. For every 20 point game he has he’ll have 15 games where he scores 10 or less, turns the ball over 4+ times and we give up double figure offensive rebounds. That’s not an even trade off, he’s 6-10 235lbs in college there’s no excuse for him to avg less than 8 rebounds per game and he avges 4. I was high on his potential with Wade coming in but he hasn’t embraced the physical and agressive style that Epps has. You put Epps heart and mind in Reaths body and you’d have an all SEC player. I do agree we’ll need his offense but in a reserve role, he can’t start unless the lightbulb turns on.
Posted on 12/17/17 at 5:31 pm to Tiger Ugly
I’m not sure how long he’s played basketball in his life. And it’s little instinctive mistakes he just can’t seem to get right. He gets too far under the basket on defensive rebounds, he’s a step or half step late on rim protection rotations, i even saw Sims literally grab him and move him into the right spot one time yesterday. He’s not very physical but still he’s only a couple steps here or there away from being and effective rebounder/defender that’s what’s so frustrating.
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Posted on 12/17/17 at 9:06 pm to basiletiger
He is a defensive liability despite his height.
Posted on 12/18/17 at 6:54 am to Madking
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he’s a step or half step late on rim protection rotations, i even saw Sims literally grab him and move him into the right spot one time yesterday. He’s not very physical but still he’s only a couple steps here or there away from being and effective rebounder/defender that’s what’s so frustrating.
I can remember a game early last year, he blocked 5 or 6 shots and I remember thinking, whatever else he does or does not provide at least looks like we have a rim protector. But heck, I'm not sure he's blocked 5 since.
Posted on 12/18/17 at 8:04 am to Madking
He came off the bench and scored 30 points just a few nights ago. I wouldn't say he's not a starter. he was 13-17 from the field in that contest. he's our only option right now in the post. Sure Epps is 6'10" but he is even more of a liability in the post than Reath is.
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