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Baseball team's downfall

Posted on 6/10/19 at 12:16 pm
Posted by PokerPlayingTiger
Member since Jan 2007
2745 posts
Posted on 6/10/19 at 12:16 pm
I'm far from a baseball expert so pardon if I'm way off base here. After watching the Super Regionals, it seems to me that the single biggest issue that cost us the series was the number of critical errors on the base paths. We cost ourselves many opportunities at huge innings and, at a minimum, cost ourselves some sure runs.

How can players at this level miss 2nd base, get picked off 3rd, and ill advisedly try to stretch singles into doubles. All of those errors occurred in critical situations and totally killed innings.

Those errors likely cost us winning the series in a 2-game sweep considering how close the games turned out to be. Sure, there were other issues but imo these base running mistakes ended up being the single biggest difference.
Posted by WaydownSouth
Stratton Oakmont
Member since Nov 2018
8128 posts
Posted on 6/10/19 at 12:18 pm to
Baseball teams downfall is that half of them look anorexic. Need to hit the weights
Posted by Whataburger
95.60 Longitude 30.20 Latitude
Member since Jan 2018
700 posts
Posted on 6/10/19 at 12:24 pm to
Baseball Team's downfall starts at the top.
Posted by TIGER62
METAIRIE, LA
Member since Aug 2005
2219 posts
Posted on 6/10/19 at 12:31 pm to
do you watch major league baseball?
Posted by PokerPlayingTiger
Member since Jan 2007
2745 posts
Posted on 6/10/19 at 12:33 pm to
quote:

do you watch major league baseball?


No but don't remember seeing so many base running errors when I did watch it.
Posted by logjamming
Member since Feb 2014
7823 posts
Posted on 6/10/19 at 12:33 pm to
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Baseball team's downfall




Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
34648 posts
Posted on 6/10/19 at 12:35 pm to
The base running errors this weekend just made no frickin sense. The coaches must have told them to be over aggressive or something
Posted by jamboybarry
Member since Feb 2011
32640 posts
Posted on 6/10/19 at 12:35 pm to
Shitty baserunning and your "ace" going 2 innings usually don't get you far in the post season
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67589 posts
Posted on 6/10/19 at 12:37 pm to
the baserunning blunders killed us but I say the downfall was before the season even started.

No LH pitchers...how is this even possible at one of the premier teams in the country?

How does a weak hitting guy like HH get to start at 3rd base? 3rd base is a power hitting/rbi position and we have a guy who barely hit .100 in sec play...that is terrible recruiting!

While Garza started playing well over the last month how does LSU not get great catchers?

Posted by PokerPlayingTiger
Member since Jan 2007
2745 posts
Posted on 6/10/19 at 12:42 pm to
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No LH pitchers...how is this even possible at one of the premier teams in the country?


Agree with this. I was wondering why in the hell we brought in back to back righties to face their power hitting lefties. You just answered it.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37007 posts
Posted on 6/10/19 at 12:42 pm to
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How can players at this level miss 2nd base, get picked off 3rd, and ill advisedly try to stretch singles into doubles. All of those errors occurred in critical situations and totally killed innings.



Jacked up emotionally, trying to do too much individually.

Too many of our players collapsed mentally under the pressure and the bright lights.

Remember, the other team wants to win too. To have a pickoff, you need a great throw. to tag someone off base, you need to have enough presence to do it.

What's sad is that while people on the rant will bitch and complain, these players have to live with the fact that these boneheaded mistakes cost them. Whether they are returning to LSU, going pro, or headed to Traction to coach, they will need to put this behind them.

As a player, it's easier to lose 10-1, 11-4, than like that.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37007 posts
Posted on 6/10/19 at 12:44 pm to
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While Garza started playing well over the last month how does LSU not get great catchers?


What? They got a great catcher. He got hurt going into the season. When he stopped being hurt, surprise, he played much better.

His play Sunday was not at all representative of how we played the second half of the season.

Sometimes, players have bad games. When too many of them have a bad game on the same day, this is what happens.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67589 posts
Posted on 6/10/19 at 12:51 pm to
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They got a great catcher. He got hurt going into the season. When he stopped being hurt, surprise, he played much better.



I know his juco stats. From how he made to LSU it doesn't sound like he was getting many looks by D1 and sounded like LSU wasn't on to him prior to their coach calling us.
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
29284 posts
Posted on 6/10/19 at 1:41 pm to
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No LH pitchers...how is this even possible at one of the premier teams in the country?


For sure walks and base running errors killed us these last 2 games ......BUT if you are going to pitch to Mendoza last night (which I probably still wouldn't have done) you better have a situational LH pitcher to do it.
This post was edited on 6/10/19 at 1:42 pm
Posted by LSU FAMILY
HOUMA
Member since Oct 2005
688 posts
Posted on 6/10/19 at 1:46 pm to
While I agree with our problem with running bases, I believe we have a bigger problem with throwing strikes in critical situations.
Over the lsst two weekends, we walked 28 batters in 5 games.
12 of those were lead off walks. Nothing good will come from a lead off walk.
A batter that is walked reaches 1st base 100% of the time. We gave the opposition 28 base runners. It’s going to come back and bite you in the butt.
A team with a .300 batting average only reaches 1st base safe 1/3 of the time!
With a 3 ball count, we need to get the ball over the plate and make the batter swing.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50229 posts
Posted on 6/10/19 at 1:51 pm to
Well not only did we walk a ton of batters, our batters could have walked plenty as well. Many times our guys screwed themselves into the ground swinging at ball 4 instead of taking the pitch. We could have and should have had several big innings despite the little league baserunning, but because we have no plate discipline on top of it, we killed our own momentum.

FSU, on the other hand, would work the count. Down 0-2? NBD. LSU's pitcher will throw three waste pitches. Then we will be patient, wait for a big pitch, or wait for Ball 4.
Posted by Allthatfades
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2014
6681 posts
Posted on 6/10/19 at 1:52 pm to
Baserunning, coaching, poor offensive approach. You can blame any or all of these. But don’t overlook starting pitching. If someone told you before the weekend started that Henry would go 2 innings Saturday and Marceaux wouldn’t get out of the 4th Sunday,
how would you expect things to turn out. Took heroic efforts by Fontenot and Peterson just to give us a chance
Posted by mlminbtr
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2003
649 posts
Posted on 6/10/19 at 2:31 pm to
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How can players at this level miss 2nd base, get picked off 3rd, and ill advisedly try to stretch singles into doubles. All of those errors occurred in critical situations and totally killed innings.


Simple, these are fundamentals of the game...it seems painfully obvious that fundamentals are not practiced or they would otherwise not be occurring. Sure, every player loses concentration or makes a fundamental mistake, but the baseball team seems to make them year-in and year-out which tells me they don't work on fundamentals at practice.
Posted by vjp819
South Sec. 414 / Alex Box Sec. 210
Member since Nov 2003
10882 posts
Posted on 6/10/19 at 2:33 pm to
we just were not good enough to overcome the mistakes we made this season. we've had other teams that made those same mistakes, but were much better hitters who could make up for those mistakes and win games that this team just didn't have the talent to win.
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