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BillyBobBlitzkrieg
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re: Austin Thomas only makes 125k and needs a raise
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Boosters know and he's being compensated in other ways. A raise is in the works.




Please let this be true.



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Bjorn Cyborg
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re: Austin Thomas only makes 125k and needs a raise
Didn’t he leave for USC and then come back after we paid him more?

That was just a couple years ago.



Fat Bastard
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re: Austin Thomas only makes 125k and needs a raise
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naivete is strong with you.




coming from a guy who thinks saban is not a very good defensive X and O guy i'd shut my mouth if i were you.


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BillyBobBlitzkrieg
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re: Austin Thomas only makes 125k and needs a raise
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Didn’t he leave for USC and then come back after we paid him more?

That was just a couple years ago.



That link is from last year, so yeah, if my memory serves me right, he went from like 110k to 125 or 140 max, but still well underpaid for what he deserves.


Relham10
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re: Austin Thomas only makes 125k and needs a raise
Need to hang on to Thomas


CEORanter
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re: Austin Thomas only makes 125k and needs a raise
Orgeron was smart enough to make him GM. Alleva wasn’t smart enough to keep him. He’s on his way back to Tennessee and his salary will be at 1M within one year. Book it


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The Boat
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re: Austin Thomas only makes 125k and needs a raise
I always feel like the Austin Thomas threads are gag threads where I don't get the joke.


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lrlafayette
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re: Austin Thomas only makes 125k and needs a raise
LINK
I couldnt find rankings to compare others on staff but i would guess his pull from last years class is better than some postion coaches although he did assit on most he was the one consistent


I20goon
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re: Austin Thomas only makes 125k and needs a raise
His recruiting stands on its own as valuable, and it is not behind the curtains. For that alone he should be well compensated.

Saban has a guy for everything, including finding and exploiting NCAA grey areas. Most have the title QC something or another. But having "a guy" isn't good enough; someone has to organize it and coordinate otherwise it doesn't work well and individuals go off the rails and either their job fails or you cross the line out of grey areas into black.

That "shadow staff head" would be Austin Thomas for us. He's done it, to a lesser degree, before. With O on the staff. It takes time, but he's well on his way with support from O.

I'm sure he runs into bias. Some of that was evident with Miles' staff. He wasn't a coach, he can't do what a coach can do, such as successfully recruit... that was some of the attitude. If he starts getting some of the same bias again here, he's gone. No matter the pay. But don't forget, we also have a genius DC who was a philosophy major and never played at the collegian level either. We have a guy that knows what he can do, how to do it, and has proved that in his view. Any "old school" views he's tired of. Yes, another Moneyball parallel here.

If you know enough about Bama and some of their inner workings he's our Burton Burns. And if you know enough about that, you know you don't know the full story and probably never will. Again, same with AT.

Hell, just organizing and distributing film to the players pads is worth it (we lost that guy years ago). Then there's the recruiting. Then add "QC Organizer & Player Development", aka GM, and you have one very valuable individual.
This post was edited on 12/7 at 5:36 am


OU812
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re: Austin Thomas only makes 125k and needs a raise
The one coach that is overpaid relative to his performance is Jeff Grimes.


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re: Austin Thomas only makes 125k and needs a raise
He won’t be an off campus recruiter much longer unless we plan to hire another liability and hope he can get another waiver.


I20goon
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re: Austin Thomas only makes 125k and needs a raise
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He won’t be an off campus recruiter much longer unless we plan to hire another liability and hope he can get another waiver.
Another waiver wouldn't be an issue. But you are right, he won't be recruiting for much longer I think.

There is the possibility that he would now recruit for the 10th coach (assumed to be S/Teams). But I doubt it.

Not sure why y'all think Pete is a liability when he was successfully/effectively recruiting in his place. Legendary DL coach and a recruiter pulling in 5 stars is the net result with no violations... far from a liability.


MOT
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re: Austin Thomas only makes 125k and needs a raise
Pete would have been a liability as a recruiter, that’s why Thomas was put in his place.


I20goon
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re: Austin Thomas only makes 125k and needs a raise
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Pete would have been a liability as a recruiter, that’s why Thomas was put in his place.
Very true. Pete is literally too old to recruit.

But when the net is that we "get" to have AT recruit in his place, then it's actually a plus. AT pulled in more 5 stars than Haley did in his last 3 years.

The title the recruiter holds doesn't matter... just the results.

And this waiver thing isn't new, or uncommon (no Arky reference there). See it every year as coaches change, and I think tOSU is using 2 right now and Bama 1. That's just the few that I've heard about randomly. I have not found a way to look that up, believe me I've tried.

ETA: I think, don't know for sure, this waiver thing is something that Chavis should've been gone after for when going to TAMU. I never saw where he got one. Basically, every year coaches have to "register" to recruit, as a coach, for a specific team. In the case of AT, it's a waiver to recruit as a non-coach. What's more common, if that if you're recruiting for another team than registered for (as in you've got a new job). You have to get the same waiver to recruit for another team before "re-registration". The NCAA will probably be processing more than 50 "urgent" waivers over the next week.
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I20goon
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re: Austin Thomas only makes 125k and needs a raise
Actually managed to find a post I made in 2013 regarding "shadow staff" duties. Below is something that a Shadow Staff Organizer, or GM, or Burns/Thomas... whatever one would call them... would have to oversee.
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Someone in the UA financial aid department sends a recruit a 2 page form saying "we need to verify your middle initial, please fill out this form or call us at xxx-xxx-xxxx". Of course he calls. No one in their right mind would fill out a form for that. So the recruit now calls that number. He won't get a coach at the other end, but he will get a non-coach member of Saban's Army. This isn't your usual school-job average Joe. This is a person who has been taught what to ask a recruit, which particular subjects the recruit likes to talk about (his team, his shoes, lift kits, etc). And before the call ends, he hears "you know, we really really want to see you at Alabama". Do this once a week in addition to the legal stuff and you create quite an impression on a recruit. Not only by contacting him, not only by telling him how much he is wanted, but also by making it seem you're proactively doing the steps necessary to get him enrolled (remember, this started with a call to complete some random enrollment form).

So in this case, The Organizer, has to act as a sales manager. And Saban has literally brought business principles into the recruiting arena. Above is simply a recruiting version of Constant Contact or Lead Simple. The goal is to maintain relationships via contacts, and is a way to maintain that contact in a grey area that the NCAA isn't covering.

The job of the The Organizer is to oversee it; make sure it stays in bounds, train the person making the call, record the data that the contact was made, etc.

You and I were actually going back and forth about this very post MOT (not in a bad way).


luciouslou
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re: Austin Thomas only makes 125k and needs a raise
Youll have no concept of money. 125k is a nice salary. Many folks would beg for that


DBU
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re: Austin Thomas only makes 125k and needs a raise
And you have no concept of market value


Geauxgurt
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re: Austin Thomas only makes 125k and needs a raise
Let O pay him out of his overinflated salary given the fact LSU is having to pay out the arse for its coordinators to compensate.


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Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
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re: Austin Thomas only makes 125k and needs a raise
You think Austin Thomas is worth $1 million?

No off the field personnel is worth that. That would make him a top 10 public employee. In the state.

He would make more than every person on campus, except for about 5.


I20goon
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Member since Aug 2013
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re: Austin Thomas only makes 125k and needs a raise
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You think Austin Thomas is worth $1 million?

No off the field personnel is worth that. That would make him a top 10 public employee. In the state.

He would make more than every person on campus, except for about 5.
Like coaches, TAF (or private funding in general) makes up the lion's share of that salary. $1 MM would not come from public coffers. Only about $125k. And yes, right now he's getting the majority of his pay privately, not just the publicly listed $125k.


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