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Auburn's field's "turtle back"

Posted on 9/12/18 at 9:58 am
Posted by jlovel7
Louisiana
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Posted on 9/12/18 at 9:58 am
So I think it's pretty standard for the middle of football fields to be higher than the sidelines for drainage purposes. I'm sure most people who have played on one are aware of this even if it isn't super obvious from watching on TV. I read this past week from a poster that Auburn has one of the larger ones in college football if not the largest in terms of discrepancies, causing opposing quarterbacks who aren't used to the elevation change to be messed up by it.

Does anyone know if this is true that JH has an exagerated drop on the sidelines compared to most fields and if it actually does factor into game performance when you're not used to it?
Posted by gsm1060
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Posted on 9/12/18 at 10:02 am to
It’s called a crown and the field has been the same since the early 80’s when Dye put in a new drain system.
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Posted on 9/12/18 at 10:02 am to
field with a crown. played on many of those.
Posted by smely4lsu
Atlanta
Member since Apr 2008
191 posts
Posted on 9/12/18 at 10:03 am to
My company built the field. It has a 2% slope compared to the normal 1-1.5% you typically see on most natural grass fields. Only for drainage purposes no advantage gained.
Posted by CypressTrout10
Louisiana
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Posted on 9/12/18 at 10:03 am to
Some are so bad you can't see the feet or ankles of the people on the other side of the field
Posted by 19
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Posted on 9/12/18 at 10:04 am to
Tiger Stadium had a Hell of a crown back in the DiNardo days...
Posted by TheHarahanian
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Posted on 9/12/18 at 10:05 am to
For the 2004 game at Auburn, my seats were on the 2nd row off the field on about the 20 on the LSU sideline.

I remember that we couldn't see some of the legs on people standing on the far sideline, but I don't remember exactly how high the crown of the field went. I do remember thinking that it was odd.

And on the 2nd row we had a little elevation and the effect was still noticeable.
This post was edited on 9/12/18 at 10:07 am
Posted by LSUStar
Medellin
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Posted on 9/12/18 at 10:06 am to
It's a crown and I think must conform to standards.
Posted by smely4lsu
Atlanta
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 9/12/18 at 10:17 am to
After the repair that will begin promptly after the Rice game the new field will be SPECTACULAR
Posted by bouefbengal
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 9/12/18 at 10:20 am to
Pretty sure Ryan Mallett complained about ours after one of the Hog losses here.
Posted by Lou the Jew from LSU
Member since Oct 2006
4685 posts
Posted on 9/12/18 at 10:31 am to
I was that poster. I walked that field during a turf grass seminar and the groundskeepers where the ones who emphasized the crown.
Other facts:
-field us native so that has not been amended so drainage through the soil profile is not great, thus requiring the crown to remove water
-the field is sanded very often, this gas increased The crowning. We were told they have dug as deep as 18” and brought up evidence of old field paint from that deep due to sand added on top
- when JH was built, they did not leave adequate space for trucks to drive into the field, so heavy equipment can’t access the field. That’s why the build up is so great as they cannot remove enough old sod and soil without huge labor expense.

This is a real irony as Auburn has one if the premier turf grass schools in the US, and their own field is next to impossible to keep up.
Posted by boxcarbarney
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Posted on 9/12/18 at 10:33 am to
quote:

After the repair that will begin promptly after the Rice game the new field will be SPECTACULAR


What kind of work are they going to do?
Posted by I20goon
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Posted on 9/12/18 at 10:39 am to
Short side option! Head of steam, all downhill.
Posted by Nutriaitch
Montegut
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 9/12/18 at 10:49 am to
the old cowboys stadium had a ridiculous crown.

seen several QBs chucking ball well over head of wr on sideline passes early in games until they adjusted.

don’t think jerry world is as pronounced.
Posted by Clark W Griswold
THE USA
Member since Sep 2012
10505 posts
Posted on 9/12/18 at 11:07 am to
If you stand field level are tennessee you can’t see the knees of the other team it’s so high. I read a while back that it was the highest in division 1. Never heard anyone talk about Auburn.
Posted by Honkus
Member since Aug 2005
51036 posts
Posted on 9/12/18 at 11:10 am to
I'm "turtle heading" a little bit right now. Does that count?
Posted by Old
Metairie
Member since Dec 2016
2843 posts
Posted on 9/12/18 at 11:11 am to
quote:

Auburn's field's "turtle back"
AU uses this to handicap opponents. It works more often than not in my view.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 9/12/18 at 11:18 am to
Auburn has an 18" crown. Standard is anything under 20", with most being 12"-18"

cam see it slightly here. This is the WVU game about 10 years ago, ~4" in an hour

This post was edited on 9/12/18 at 11:20 am
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
12860 posts
Posted on 9/12/18 at 11:18 am to
AU's seems only slightly higher than ours.

Both have pretty good drainage (AU got to test ours a couple years ago).

I'd rather deal with a pronounced crown than a lake, especially if I'm a QB, WR, or RB.
Posted by cajun1970
Member since Aug 2018
111 posts
Posted on 9/12/18 at 12:08 pm to
That's perfect for us. Our jet sweepers will be running downhill after they get the ball, so they'll be that much faster.
This post was edited on 9/12/18 at 12:09 pm
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