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Are most decisions to transfer simply acts of desperation?
Posted on 6/12/19 at 11:05 am
Posted on 6/12/19 at 11:05 am
This is not about Brock Mathis per se, but he is an example of what I'm talking about. Here is a kid who is looking for his third school. Brock had plenty of opportunity to seize the catcher spot this season, but he just wasn't good enough. Transferring won't make him a better player.
Look, I get it. Guys want to play. They don't want to see the dream die. They'll play anywhere just to keep it alive.
I haven't seen any hard stats, but I think a big majority of transfers (in all sports) don't really work out for the transferring kid. Most don't find greener grass and more playing time.
So why do they do it? Why can't let go and enjoy their situation, fill their role, build longterm relationships and get an education?
Look, I get it. Guys want to play. They don't want to see the dream die. They'll play anywhere just to keep it alive.
I haven't seen any hard stats, but I think a big majority of transfers (in all sports) don't really work out for the transferring kid. Most don't find greener grass and more playing time.
So why do they do it? Why can't let go and enjoy their situation, fill their role, build longterm relationships and get an education?
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Posted on 6/12/19 at 11:05 am to Slippy
They happen because you touch yourself
Posted on 6/12/19 at 11:09 am to Slippy
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Here is a kid who is looking for his third school.
Are you attempting to slight the kid for transferring from a JUCO to a D1 school? That's kind of the point.
Posted on 6/12/19 at 11:10 am to GermantownTiger
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They happen because you touch yourself
Objection. Irrelevant.
Posted on 6/12/19 at 11:11 am to Slippy
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I haven't seen any hard stats, but I think a big majority of transfers (in all sports) don't really work out for the transferring kid. Most don't find greener grass and more playing time.
That’s probably not entirely true or false.
Our QB is a transfer who got way more playing time.
Fohoko definitely is in greener pastures than the defense at Texas Tech.
We’ve also played guys who were riding the bench at LSU who started for teams like ULL or SELA.
Posted on 6/12/19 at 11:12 am to Slippy
Because most likely Mathis doesn't have a spot on the 35
Doughty is the bullpen catcher so no need there either.
Doughty is the bullpen catcher so no need there either.
Posted on 6/12/19 at 11:14 am to Slippy
It's entirely possible that in the case of players like Mathis that they have no choice but to transfer. LSU has 6 catchers on the roster going into next season. He is behind probably 2-3 of them from day 1. Also, LSU is above their roster limit of 35. So, if he doesn't transfer he may not be playing baseball at all.
Posted on 6/12/19 at 11:19 am to Slippy
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So why do they do it?
I think you answered your own question.
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They don't want to see the dream die. They'll play anywhere just to keep it alive.
It might be a long shot but in a lot of cases it might be the only shot they've got.
Posted on 6/12/19 at 11:26 am to Slippy
Maybe he thought he could make it here but now wants to pursue playing time. 
Posted on 6/12/19 at 11:27 am to Slippy
A lot of players would rather play for a smaller school than sit the bench at a larger school. Is that really that hard to believe? These guys just want to play ball. I grew up a huge LSU fan and would have loved nothing more than to sit the bench and have the best seats in the house to watch LSU play for four year but I also understand wanting to play somewhere else if that’s an option.
Also they can build long term relationships and get an education at another school.
Also they can build long term relationships and get an education at another school.
Posted on 6/12/19 at 12:04 pm to Slippy
Worked out pretty well for Marlon Taylor and Kavell Bigby-Willims.
Posted on 6/12/19 at 12:26 pm to Slippy
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Transferring won't make him a better player.
it might.
in game experience is about the best teacher in the world.
so all other things being equal (amount of work out in during training, practice, workouts, etc), the guy with more playing time will typical develop more and become even better.
so yeah, going somewhere that you can actually see the field could absolutely make you a better player.
Posted on 6/12/19 at 1:43 pm to Slippy
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So why do they do it? Why can't let go and enjoy their situation, fill their role, build longterm relationships and get an education?
I think it depends upon the sport. Take baseball and Mathis, we may never know, but this sure looks like a "processing". By him and CPM having that discussion now, it gives him time to find a new spot. If he waits until the fall and gets cut, he still won't be on LSU's team and it's harder to find a spot somewhere else.
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I haven't seen any hard stats, but I think a big majority of transfers (in all sports) don't really work out for the transferring kid. Most don't find greener grass and more playing time.
I don't know if I agree with this. Schools accept transfers because they have a need. Again, in Mathis case, maybe he's not good enough to start at a major D-1 program. But he might be good enough to catch for a mid-tier Southland Conference program.
All three major mens programs have or recently had transfers starting. Most programs are the same way.
Posted on 6/12/19 at 1:48 pm to Slippy
Rankin Woley hit a huge triple for Auburn in Super Regional, and is in his way to Omaha. Guess he fricked up.
Posted on 6/12/19 at 2:54 pm to Stevo
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Rankin Woley hit a huge triple for Auburn in Super Regional, and is in his way to Omaha. Guess he fricked up.
Didn't he get kicked off the team?
Glad for him that he turned it around.
Posted on 6/12/19 at 3:27 pm to Slippy
Kids just want to play. Unless you have real ties to the area and the school. A kid moves around for playing time.
Posted on 6/12/19 at 3:50 pm to Slippy
Each situation can be different. In football and basketball, it's often because a player isn't a fit in whatever system is being run. Even some of the very best players can look bad in certain systems and players that don't appear to be very good, can thrive in a system that suits there abilities and strengths.
It certainly happens in football and basketball, but primarily baseball players transfer, because there are better players ahead of them that they know they won't beat out. Most of these transfers don't pan out as mentioned, but there is always the diamond in the rough that excels when given plenty of playing time.
It certainly happens in football and basketball, but primarily baseball players transfer, because there are better players ahead of them that they know they won't beat out. Most of these transfers don't pan out as mentioned, but there is always the diamond in the rough that excels when given plenty of playing time.
Posted on 6/12/19 at 5:48 pm to TigerDM
Some times its the parents driving the bus, not the kid.
Posted on 6/12/19 at 5:58 pm to Slippy
I’m sure glad Tremont Waters transferred here. Wouldn’t say it was an act of desperation. Every situation is unique
Posted on 6/12/19 at 6:03 pm to Slippy
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Most don't find greener grass and more playing time
Seems like plenty of them get more playing time since they are usually going to a smaller school.
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