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re: Aranda and the defensive staff are currently in Seattle
Posted on 2/22/18 at 3:07 pm to Nissanmaxima
Posted on 2/22/18 at 3:07 pm to Nissanmaxima
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But, but Coach O is a bum! I don't think the haters fully understand how much respect the coaches that he coached under have for him!
Do you really believe that this meeting can somehow be construed as an endorsement of our HC by theirs?
Posted on 2/22/18 at 3:13 pm to Space Cowboy
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It’s not just one or two of O’s former assistants at Ole Miss saying that no one could have won more games with those players O inherited from his predecessor at Ole Miss. It’s all of them from Hugh Freeze on down.
Anyone with at least half a brain knows you have to have decent players to have a decent team and if your players aren’t decent, well then you are not going to win very many games. I mean it’s common sense isn’t it?
So, who am I supposed to believe, someone like you who I know from my own personal first-hand experience isn’t intelligent at all, or people like coach O’s former assistant coaches who were coaching and working at Ole Miss at the time and who all have first-hand knowledge of the situation from their own personal experience.
The answer is academic, I’m not going to listen to someone who I know for a fact is not intelligent at all, and ignore what coach O’s former assistants have to say, at the same time, that all have first-hand knowledge of the situation because they were all actually there. Give me a break.
Maybe you are unintelligent enough to do that, but I sure in the hell am not. Not to mention, that none of those former assistant coaches have anything to gain or to lose. They are just obviously being honest and telling the truth.
So now you're saying he didn't have decent players in 2007?
What the hell was he doing for 3 years on the recruiting trail? And why were they so good the second he was fired? The defense went from 89th in '07 to 12th in '08. That's gotta be a historic jump in rankings, probably because they got rid of the dead weight that was Orgeron.
If he didn't have good players by 2007 they were right to fire him for poor recruiting. If he did have players then he was doing a piss poor job with them. Either way he deserved to be fired. Time to face facts.
This post was edited on 2/22/18 at 3:21 pm
Posted on 2/22/18 at 3:16 pm to JBeam
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I swear some of you are a little too defensive of CEO.
In what warped universe was my statement a defense of orgeron? Please explain to me how you came to that conclusion.
Posted on 2/22/18 at 3:20 pm to Space Cowboy
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It's only ignorant fans down at LSU who don't have the first freaking clue what really happened while O was at Ole Miss that bitch and moan about coach O's record at Ole Miss.
However, all of his assistant coaches from Hugh Freeze on down who coached and worked for O when he was at Ole Miss and who all, by the way, happen to have first-hand knowledge of what actually went on at Ole Miss at the time, all say that no one could have won more games than coach O did with those players he inherited from his predecessor. Who was not fired because of his first losing season but instead because of his piss poor recruiting.
Those same assistant coaches also say that had not Ole Miss pulled the rug out from under O when they did, that for all intents and purposes the Ole Miss football program had already been rebuilt because of O's excellent recruiting and that in all probability O would still be the head coach of Ole Miss to this day.
Of course, unlike dumb LSU fans who know better, those assistant coaches all have first-hand knowledge of the situation.
Moreover, they didn't just start saying it because O was up for the LSU job. They have been saying the same exact thing since O was at USC.
Looks like I touched a nerve. I guess we should never talk about a coach's history. Let's ignore the fact that ever worked with Pete Carroll then too, shall we?
Lol at classifying his time at Ole Miss as anything other than an unmitigated failure on his behalf. Even O's lying arse would and has admitted he failed.
Posted on 2/22/18 at 3:32 pm to Space Cowboy
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Like getting himself fired and like not being able to get another head coaching job.
You realize that Orgeron is likely less than a year from that fate himself?
Miles was the winningest coach in LSU history and went to 2 NC games, winning one. Are those not great things? So far Orgeron has a 4-loss season (including 2 of the worst losses I can remember) and the worst recruiting cycle in over a decade under his belt.
Posted on 2/22/18 at 4:04 pm to Space Cowboy
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Like getting himself fired
like having the best win % in the history of a top 15 all time program.
like having more national title game appearances than ed orgeron has seasons with more than 2 conf wins.
like having as many ap&coaches(both)top 10 finishes from 2005-2016 as lsu had from 1962-2005.
like having as many top 5 finishes as saban,mac, and dietzel
This post was edited on 2/22/18 at 4:31 pm
Posted on 2/22/18 at 4:07 pm to Space Cowboy
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It's only ignorant fans down at LSU who don't have the first freaking clue what really happened while O was at Ole Miss that bitch and moan about coach O's record at Ole Miss. However, all of his assistant coaches from Hugh Freeze on down who coached and worked for O when he was at Ole Miss and who all, by the way, happen to have first-hand knowledge of what actually went on at Ole Miss at the time, all say that no one could have won more games than coach O did with those players he inherited from his predecessor. Who was not fired because of his first losing season but instead because of his piss poor recruiting. Those same assistant coaches also say that had not Ole Miss pulled the rug out from under O when they did, that for all intents and purposes the Ole Miss football program had already been rebuilt because of O's excellent recruiting and that in all probability O would still be the head coach of Ole Miss to this day. Of course, unlike dumb LSU fans who know better, those assistant coaches all have first-hand knowledge of the situation. Moreover, they didn't just start saying it because O was up for the LSU job. They have been saying the same exact thing since O was at USC.
Even O admitted he sucked as a head coach and needed to do things VERY differently. Why can’t you O sycophants agree with him?
So all these other coaches who worked with him and think he was so great, why didn’t they come out in force and support him when the USC job was open but they didn’t retain him? Why has no one offered him a gig with all the coaches who think he’s so good? It defies logic.
Posted on 2/22/18 at 4:07 pm to Space Cowboy
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It's only ignorant fans down at LSU who don't have the first freaking clue what really happened while O was at Ole Miss that bitch and moan about coach O's record at Ole Miss.
Miles went to a far worse situation at Oklahoma State and elevated the program.
O isnt qualified to run Kentucky's defense.
Posted on 2/22/18 at 4:12 pm to Space Cowboy
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However, all of his assistant coaches from Hugh Freeze on down who coached and worked for O when he was at Ole Miss and who all, by the way, happen to have first-hand knowledge of what actually went on at Ole Miss at the time, all say that no one could have won more games than coach O did with those players he inherited from his predecessor. Who was not fired because of his first losing season but instead because of his piss poor recruiting.
Those same assistant coaches also say that had not Ole Miss pulled the rug out from under O when they did, that for all intents and purposes the Ole Miss football program had already been rebuilt because of O's excellent recruiting and that in all probability O would still be the head coach of Ole Miss to this day.
Miles not getting a HC job offer in the last 18 months = he sucks.
Ed Orgeron not getting a HC offer for 9 years= great coach
you dont even realize when youre shitting on your own stances
Posted on 2/22/18 at 4:36 pm to Rickdaddy4188
Defend defend defend.... I noticed that YOU were the 1st one to bring Miles up in this thread.... and now you have started with your bashing of O and suckfest of Miles......
Fact........
Broken record..........
Fact........
Broken record..........
Posted on 2/22/18 at 4:38 pm to dukke v
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Defend defend defend.... I noticed that YOU were the 1st one to bring Miles up in this thread.... and now you have started with your bashing of O and suckfest of Miles......
by saying miles wasnt a great coach.
everything else i posted was a fact not a defense.
once again youre in here trying to turn the thread into a rickdaddy thread.
im inside that ignorant brain like an
aneurysm.
ive never seen a poster be so obssessed with what another poster posted as you are with me.
This post was edited on 2/22/18 at 4:42 pm
Posted on 2/22/18 at 4:42 pm to Rickdaddy4188
I don't care if it's facts or not.... you are doing everything you can to run O into the ground and everything you can to try and prop up a coach who is no longer with the program... and anytime someone says anything negative about Miles YOU get all pissy and try to come to his rescue....Why???????
He is gone... why defend him anymore????
But hey if you hate O that much be my guest.... just shows you want him to fail which means you want LSU to fail... these are facts.....
He is gone... why defend him anymore????
But hey if you hate O that much be my guest.... just shows you want him to fail which means you want LSU to fail... these are facts.....
Posted on 2/22/18 at 4:44 pm to dukke v
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don't care if it's facts or not.... you are doing everything you can to run O into the ground and everything you can to try and prop up a coach who is no longer with the program... and anytime someone says anything negative about Miles YOU get all pissy and try to come to his rescue....Why???????
He is gone... why defend him anymore????
But hey if you hate O that much be my guest.... just shows you want him to fail which means you want LSU to fail... these are facts.....
contribute to the thread pussy boy. stop worrying about me. I have a mom and dad that worries about me.
This post was edited on 2/22/18 at 4:47 pm
Posted on 2/22/18 at 4:47 pm to Rickdaddy4188
I am sure that if they knew how you were acting like on here they would have you commited to the nuthouse....
They did a horrible job raising you... just sayin....
They did a horrible job raising you... just sayin....
Posted on 2/22/18 at 4:51 pm to dukke v
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am sure that if they knew how you were acting like on here they would have you commited to the nuthouse....
They did a horrible job raising you... just sayin....
yeah its almost like they raised a drunk that lives in a trailer and shits in a bag. oh wait thats what your whore mom did.
Posted on 2/22/18 at 4:53 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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like having the best win % in the history of a top 15 all time program. like having more national title game appearances than ed orgeron has seasons with more than 2 conf wins. like having as many ap&coaches(both)top 10 finishes from 2005-2016 as lsu had from 1962-2005. like having as many top 5 finishes as saban,mac, and dietzel combined.
And he still can't get a damn head coaching job. It's like he has the plague. No one will touch him with a 10-foot pole because that record is about as credible as your alleged intelligence is incredible. Nobody believes it and that's why no one will give him a damn head coaching job. Because they are not stupid like you are.
Furthermore, if they thought for one second that crap you posted like a fool was legitimate, he'd have been hired within a week of losing his LSU job. However, nobody believes that garbage except for you and other low-information people like you.
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ED ORGERON COULDN'T GET A COORDINATOR'S JOB OFFER FOR 29 YEARSN LET ALONE A HC JOB OFFER
That's not only utterly false, it's also absolutely retarded as well. It's not that O couldn't get a Defensive Coordinator job or wasn't offered any Defensive Coordinator jobs. That's pure utter baloney.
Instead, it's that he didn't want to be a Defensive Coordinator because being a Defensive Coordinator would have taken him away from what he loves to do and what he does the best, which is being an elite recruiter.
Indeed, no one has been recognized more for being an elite recruiter his entire career other than coach O. He is the Kingdaddy rabbit of recruiting.
Say what you want to say, but recruiting is his claim to fame. It's his calling card, along with the number of defensive linemen that he coached that are now Hall of Famers.
Anyway, when Miles hired coach O, Dan Mullen was trying to convince O to become his Defensive Coordinator at Mississippi State. However, O jumped at the opportunity to escape that job to come to Baton Rouge instead.
Defensive Coordinators are better left to analytical people like Dave Aranda and Steve Ensminger who hate being in the public's eye. O, on the other hand, loves being the public's eye. He thrives on it and that's why he is such a good recruiter and such a good head coach. He's perfect for the job.
As for as head coaching job offers go, he had the same amount of head coaching offers as Les Miles. I want what you are smoking.
Posted on 2/22/18 at 4:54 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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oh wait thats what your whore mom did.
really??? So my mom is now a whore????
Unprovoked attack by the best in the biz...
What A loser...........
Posted on 2/22/18 at 4:55 pm to Space Cowboy
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That's not only utterly false, it's also absolutely retarded as well. It's not that O couldn't get a Defensive Coordinator job or wasn't offered any Defensive Coordinator jobs. That's pure utter baloney.
Instead, it's that he didn't want to be a Defensive Coordinator because being a Defensive Coordinator would have taken him away from what he loves to do and what he does the best, which is being an elite recruiter.
Miles hasnt been given a HC job offer in 18 months.
ed orgeron went 9 fricking years.
and youre fricking retarded of you think he was turning down DC offers.
he lobbied for the syracuse dc job.
Posted on 2/22/18 at 4:56 pm to dukke v
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Unprovoked attack by the best in the biz...
you just talked shite about my parents.
you need help dumbass
only i your drunk brain is this not a personal attacks
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am sure that if they knew how you were acting like on here they would have you commited to the nuthouse....
They did a horrible job raising you... just sayin....
This post was edited on 2/22/18 at 4:57 pm
Posted on 2/22/18 at 4:58 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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you just talked shite about my parents.
And you started with the name calling in this thread... Not I...
BTW SINCE YOU started bashing O like you seem to do in every thread... Could you have led this team to 9 wins last year??????
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