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Anyone think that this wasn't Alleva's decision?
Posted on 10/3/17 at 8:41 am
Posted on 10/3/17 at 8:41 am
Look, no one has wanted the guy fired more than me and he need to be fired yesterday. I'm not sure how he got the job in the first place, but that's a different topic. His extension of Miles and guarantee of O's contract will cost the AD millions. That alone should get him shitcanned. And frick him and his 'I am the search'.
Does anyone else feel like this hire was a LSU good ole boy forced hire? Alleva has shown his complete ineptness with his hires, but his history of hires have been outside the program. The Johnny Jones debacle was a good ole boy hire after Alleva's guy TJ failed.
I hate Alleva but have to think that the BoS, some idiot boosters, and FKing had to have some push with the O hire after Alleva failed with Herman. This whole thing reeks of cheap (F King) and one of us (BoS) bullshite.
The whole process was baffling how it went down. Months to hire, no real search, and a knee-jerk hire of O tells me something else was going on.
Burn the whole fricking thing down.
Does anyone else feel like this hire was a LSU good ole boy forced hire? Alleva has shown his complete ineptness with his hires, but his history of hires have been outside the program. The Johnny Jones debacle was a good ole boy hire after Alleva's guy TJ failed.
I hate Alleva but have to think that the BoS, some idiot boosters, and FKing had to have some push with the O hire after Alleva failed with Herman. This whole thing reeks of cheap (F King) and one of us (BoS) bullshite.
The whole process was baffling how it went down. Months to hire, no real search, and a knee-jerk hire of O tells me something else was going on.
Burn the whole fricking thing down.
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Posted on 10/3/17 at 8:43 am to ehidal1
if it wasn't his pick, he needed to nut up and make the decision to hire the right guy.... either way it's on him
Posted on 10/3/17 at 8:44 am to ehidal1
if it wasn't then he shouldn't have gone to the national media and said "I am the search" you're just as big of a goober as his dumbass is. 
Posted on 10/3/17 at 8:45 am to ehidal1
quote:
Anyone think that this wasn't Alleva's decision?
Honestly don't know. I think we know enough about him to believe he COULD hire a candidate as piss poor as O, but he could have had his arm twisted in this case some.
quote:
Burn the whole fricking thing down.
With this, any Tiger fan should painfully agree. this entire boil needs to be lanced, and waited around on it only makes the inevitable pain that much worse.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 8:46 am to ehidal1
this was alleva's hire. he is a very emotional person, and when herman said no he called up ed and rushed to have the presser before texas. for some reason he thought this would prove to everyone he wanted ed over herman all along. sadly for joe most people have functioning brains.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 8:46 am to ehidal1
Serious question: Do we think that Aleva is fired before the end of this season, if at all? He needed to be gone when the clock hit 0:00 against Troy, imo. I wish there was some barometer we had for whether the wheels are in motion. We have got to get his arse out of here ASAP. Maybe all these scathing articles will put it in motion?
Posted on 10/3/17 at 8:49 am to ehidal1
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Does anyone else feel like this hire was a LSU good ole boy forced hire?
So for, allegedly, at least the 3rd time a decision has been made about the employment of a major coach at lsu(jones, miles in 2015, orgeron) the athletic director had no say in the matter? Then why the frick does he even have a job in the first place?
Posted on 10/3/17 at 8:49 am to sweetwaterbilly
they'll let the season play out. but if this team has a losing season and recruiting tanks...i don't know how they keep him.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 8:50 am to ehidal1
If he isn't fired if we go under .500 in SEC play then I will absolutely go along with this theory. And this is coming from the biggest Alleva critic out there.
There is certainly the possibility he is just the public face of a very widespread behind the scenes disaster thrown out as a human shield to take bullets for the real decision makers.
After all, the idea that our admin ever snatched this loser off of Duke's firing squad line to actually trust him to run things on his own is even more disturbing than the idea that he is simply a puppet for a cheap and careless admin.
If he's still here if things go ever farther downhill, then yeah no doubt he is a stooge and the problems are far more systemic than anyone could imagine.
There is certainly the possibility he is just the public face of a very widespread behind the scenes disaster thrown out as a human shield to take bullets for the real decision makers.
After all, the idea that our admin ever snatched this loser off of Duke's firing squad line to actually trust him to run things on his own is even more disturbing than the idea that he is simply a puppet for a cheap and careless admin.
If he's still here if things go ever farther downhill, then yeah no doubt he is a stooge and the problems are far more systemic than anyone could imagine.
This post was edited on 10/3/17 at 8:51 am
Posted on 10/3/17 at 8:50 am to chitiger91
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if it wasn't then he shouldn't have gone to the national media and said "I am the search" you're just as big of a goober as his dumbass
You obviously didn't read the whole post, but thanks for your worthless input, pencil dick.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 8:53 am to ehidal1
quote:absolutely...has LSU ever let the AD pick the new coach all by himself? No way. We are talking about Louisiana politics here.
Does anyone else feel like this hire was a LSU good ole boy forced hire?
Posted on 10/3/17 at 9:03 am to Open Your Eyes
quote:
So for, allegedly, at least the 3rd time a decision has been made about the employment of a major coach at lsu(jones, miles in 2015, orgeron) the athletic director had no say in the matter? Then why the frick does he even have a job in the first place?
This.
So is the OP saying Alleva is just a figurehead? If so, why have the job? If I were the AD I'd be damned if I was going to listen to someone else tell me how to do my job. If the BoS, president, et al wanted to handle the coaching hires, then they could do it themselves.
Now, I do think Alleva was limted in his ability to find a coach. This wasn't a situation (ala Michigan) where the AD was told "get this guy and don't leave until he says yes." King Alexander has made it clear before his aversion to paying what he thinks is "ridiculous" money to coaches.
But even if we assume Orgeron isn't really Alleva's hire, the narrative that the LSU administration is "cheap" doesn't align with the fact that they gave a coach with ZERO negotiating leverage a guaranteed contract. They could have said they were going to pay Orgeron an hourly wage and he still would have had to take the job if he wanted to be a major conf. HC. He literally had no other options.
If Ogeron wasn't "Alleva's hire" then LSU is being run by quite possibly the dumbest business people in college athletics. This is now two head coaches with ZERO other options but LSU who have somehow fleeced this school into agreeing to unbelievably dumb and unnecessary contracts. (Remember, LSU unbelievably gave Johnny Jones an extension after year 2, a year without a NCAAT appearance. That forced them to wait until Jones completely bottomed out the program before they made a move).
Posted on 10/3/17 at 9:03 am to Chicken
Chicken,
You think Alleva survives this? How long before something is done?
You think Alleva survives this? How long before something is done?
Posted on 10/3/17 at 9:03 am to sweetwaterbilly
quote:
Serious question: Do we think that Aleva is fired before the end of this season, if at all? He needed to be gone when the clock hit 0:00 against
The obvious answer is yes, but this clusterfrick of an administration is unpredictable and incompetent.
They should fire him today so that thy can have a new AD in place by December to fire O and bring in his own guy.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 9:07 am to Alt26
The AD does a lot more than hire/fire coaches. He basically runs a multimillion dollar business and responsible for everything underneath it. Do you consider more corporate CEO's as just figureheads?
If you don't think politics plays a part in every LSU football hire, you would be mistaken.
If you don't think politics plays a part in every LSU football hire, you would be mistaken.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 9:09 am to plbjr
quote:if O fails as coach, Alleva will be fired before O...I doubt O is fired after this season, but all bets are off if we lose out.
Chicken,
You think Alleva survives this? How long before something is done?
This post was edited on 10/3/17 at 9:10 am
Posted on 10/3/17 at 9:11 am to ehidal1
If it wasn't his decision, he should have resigned because he will certainly be judged as if it were his decision.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 9:16 am to ehidal1
quite the opposite, I think this was alleva's guy from the outset. Once O got his foot in the door he then sold himself to the right people that then got on board
Posted on 10/3/17 at 9:20 am to ehidal1
I do believe Alleva is just a puppet. That seemed obvious in 2015. It's why he didn't say anything while the rumors were swirling around miles job status. It's why the plug got pulled when they were ready to pull the trigger that year. Someone else was pulling his strings and he was just the public interface.
Not excusing him. He's still a joke who needs to go.
Not excusing him. He's still a joke who needs to go.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 9:26 am to OceanMan
quote:
If it wasn't his decision, he should have resigned because he will certainly be judged as if it were his decision.
If Alleva had any self confidence in his ability to be an AD, he would've resigned when King overruled him at the end of 2015, if that is indeed how it played out. The fact that he didn't tells me that he knows he can't get another AD job after this one, and he's just collecting his $750K paycheck for now.
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