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BIG CAT
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Adults in high places are sending the wrong message
What Fulton did is wrong,but we have players beating up there girls friends never missing a game. Cam Robinson with a stolen gun an car full of drugs never miss a game. I think they just pick and choose what kind of punishment they seem fit. It is really becoming a joke. I wish someone would just take a stand and fight these arrogant SOB


Lambchops11
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re: Adults in high places are sending the wrong message
So many tears. Get over it.


purpgoldblood
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re: Adults in high places are sending the wrong message
Not to mention the amount of money being made off of these kids hard work and natural ability.
There is injustice here.
When your skills are worth that much to the old men in suits who don’t break a sweat or possess the talents that the atheletes do, it is a shame those young athletes have no leverage in the game. Fulton made a mistake but let’s be real, college football is a dirty business and the really big mistakes are under the table and made by administrations for the almighty dollar.


Solo Cam
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re: Adults in high places are sending the wrong message
Solid constructive contribution, dickhead.


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TIGER FAN 72
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re: Adults in high places are sending the wrong message
Their, bro.... not there


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cheeser
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re: Adults in high places are sending the wrong message
Well, this must be a johnny-come-lately situation. Never before have adults in high places sent the wrong message , nor have high adults sent the wrong message.


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Lester Earl
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re: Adults in high places are sending the wrong message
This is much easier to understand when you realize the NCAA does not hand down punishment for criminal activity.

They do hand down punishment when you break one of their laws, such as a failed test or tampered test in which they are directly administering


Game2620
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re: Adults in high places are sending the wrong message
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Not to mention the amount of money being made off of these kids hard work and natural ability. There is injustice here.


College athletes will NEVER be “paid.” This is such a tired talking point. Pandora’s Box. needs to stay shut. Title Nine will not allow it. You’ll have to pay the girl that sits on the end of the field hockey team the same that you pay the starting QB. Too many possible discrimatory lawsuits. Not even taking into consideration the points that the athletes are already paid with free education, free room and board, etc and most sports lose revenue.



tigerfoot
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re: Adults in high places are sending the wrong message
The NCAA has two A's in it, they stand for Athletic Association.

They have a mission to keep the game fair. Drugs can give an athlete and a team an unfair advantage. They have a focus on this part.

Criminal behavior does not affect the fairness of play. Therefore the NCAA has no dog in that fight. It is awful, maybe the NCAA thinks the schools should never consider these athletes to be placed on scholarship at institutions of higher learning.

I wish someone would take a stand and get all the athletes that break our laws off the teams and out of the schools. But that would require everyday citizens like us to demand it. We have not. Maybe we are the adults sending the wrong message with how we will back athletes at our institutions. Back them up no matter how shitty they act as long as they win games.
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ibleedprplngld
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re: Adults in high places are sending the wrong message
The NCAA is a joke. They play God with kid's futures. To have a more severe punishment than their professional counterparts is absolutely ridiculous.


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BIG CAT
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re: Adults in high places are sending the wrong message
I just wish every school played by the same rules.If your not a starter they run you off but if your a star they make excuse's for you


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Dave England
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re: Adults in high places are sending the wrong message
Yeah I’m sure adolescents everywhere are staying up at night confused because of the mixed messages of the Big Bad NCAA.


Get a fricking grip. I haven’t seen a melt like this since 11/8/16.


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1badboy
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re: Adults in high places are sending the wrong message
They never seem care about SABAN'S players!!!


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hth52
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re: Adults in high places are sending the wrong message
Punishment for criminal activity is a reflection of the school’s willingness to punish a player, not the NCAA. The NCAA doesnt care if you rob a bank as long as it doesn’t assist in athletics. Its not their job to punish a kid for non-sports related offenses. That is all on Law Enforcement, th courts, and the school/coaches.


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Howyouluhdat
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re: Adults in high places are sending the wrong message
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To have a more severe punishment than their professional counterparts is absolutely ridiculous.



What do you not understand about the complete separation between two entirely diff entities?


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mdomingue
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re: Adults in high places are sending the wrong message
I actually understand the need to have tampering carry a stiffer sentence than a positive test, otherwise why not try to game the system if you know you’ll fail.

Fulton’s case is the fly in the ointment, however. I would propose a modified system which is this.

If you are caught trying to fake or tamper with a test, you get a one year suspension for tampering, are required to take the test and get the consequences of that test as well. Pass, no additional time, fail one additional year. If it is discovered after you test that you tampered, assume failed test and give a 2 year suspension.

That seems reasonable to me

It doesn’t help Fulton now, though


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nola000
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re: Adults in high places are sending the wrong message
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College athletes will NEVER be “paid.” This is such a tired talking point. Pandora’s Box. needs to stay shut. Title Nine will not allow it. You’ll have to pay the girl that sits on the end of the field hockey team the same that you pay the starting QB. Too many possible discrimatory lawsuits. Not even taking into consideration the points that the athletes are already paid with free education, free room and board, etc and most sports lose revenue


I agree 100% but where do they get off telling grown-ass adults whether or not they can sign private endorsement deals and other money making ventures outside of the University?

Imagine for a second that a university professor in the engineering department came up with a really great invention while tinkering around in his garage and decided to go get it patented. University steps in and tells him he can't because it violate University policy. He then tries to privately shop The Invention out and the university tells him he can't do that either. Then the university tells him that the only way for him to Market his idea is for him to turn over all rights of the invention to the university and while he won't receive any royalties he does get a $40 a a week lunch card to use in University cafeteria and a premium parking space in front of the UC.









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crimsonsaint
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re: Adults in high places are sending the wrong message
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Cam Robinson with a stolen gun an car full of drugs


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Only a half gram of marijuana was found in the car


Don’t let facts get in the way of your argument.


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idlewatcher
Houston Astros Fan
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So many tears. Get over it.


You seem to be ok with penalty disparity.


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Lsupimp
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Member since Nov 2003
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re: Adults in high places are sending the wrong message
Unequal protection always feels like an injustice. And there will always be armies of pocket- protector- wearing bureaucrats who get paid to shuffle papers and uphold the sanctimony. These people win because the LETTER of the law is on their side. And because they are soulless legal formalists, they don’t care about the spirit of the law.

So we will continue to see guys carrying glocks and getting stoned and beating the shite out of people prospering, Because it’s about guarding the bureaucracy.


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