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94 strikeouts in 8 games with only 55 hits and 21 walks
Posted on 4/2/21 at 11:23 pm
Posted on 4/2/21 at 11:23 pm
12 Ks, 7 hits, 3 walks per game.
Not exactly a winning formula.
Not exactly a winning formula.
Posted on 4/2/21 at 11:23 pm to NorthEndZone
That’s just absolutely awful
Posted on 4/2/21 at 11:45 pm to NorthEndZone
I remember when the new batting coach was the new Joe Brady.
Posted on 4/2/21 at 11:46 pm to NorthEndZone
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94 strikeouts in 8 games with only 55 hits and 21 walks
Posted on 4/3/21 at 6:03 am to NorthEndZone
Launch angle!
I've been hearing those words for several years, and despite all attempts at intelligent baseball discourse, I've always been assured that launch angle, not pitch recognition, timing and discipline (you know, the sort of things that lead to solid contact, and drawing walks) was the key to success.
Whenever a player has shown improvement, it has been stressed to me that launch angle was the reason. I have inquired many times as to how one comes to the conclusion that a person who had difficulty with things such as bat speed, and the aforementioned pitch recognition and timing, could somehow miraculously solve all of those problems by swinging at a different angle. The answer, never satisfactory to me, is usually something along the lines of "you just don't understand analytics".
What's not to understand? Launch angle only means one thing: Angle of swing. But the problem with that is that you can't just say "I'm going to swing at a (fill in the blank) degree angle", when you don't know where the pitch is going to be, and have to make a split second decision on whether to swing or not. Typically, whether or not you hit a home run is based on pitch location, your natural swing on pitches in particular locations, bat speed, and strength.
We've had great home run hitters through the history of baseball, long before "launch angle" was a popular thing to say. The reason I point that out is to remind people that home run hitters don't think about their angle. It either comes natural, or it doesn't.
The people who become obsessed with hitting the ball in the air become very predictable, easy outs over time. If a player makes improvements and starts driving the ball, it's because he worked on all aspects of his game.
That is why I was critical of the Eddie Smith hire, when I heard he was an analytics guy. I'm fine with using analytics to chart tendencies and attack weaknesses. That has always been used. Organizations (or programs, in this case) simply have more technology to gather information now. It's not a "sabermetrics" thing. But the launch angle stuff just turns players into one trick ponies. And we see the fruits of that now. Our hitters are capable of hitting home runs, but when the philosophy is to swing hard and get it in the air, instead of working on eye-hand coordination and letting the bat follow where your brain leads it, SEC pitchers are going to take advantage of that undisciplined, aggressive approach. And they have.
I'm done ranting. Sorry... I've been trying to give it time, but my level of irritation in watching this "approach" has kind of boiled over now.
I've been hearing those words for several years, and despite all attempts at intelligent baseball discourse, I've always been assured that launch angle, not pitch recognition, timing and discipline (you know, the sort of things that lead to solid contact, and drawing walks) was the key to success.
Whenever a player has shown improvement, it has been stressed to me that launch angle was the reason. I have inquired many times as to how one comes to the conclusion that a person who had difficulty with things such as bat speed, and the aforementioned pitch recognition and timing, could somehow miraculously solve all of those problems by swinging at a different angle. The answer, never satisfactory to me, is usually something along the lines of "you just don't understand analytics".
What's not to understand? Launch angle only means one thing: Angle of swing. But the problem with that is that you can't just say "I'm going to swing at a (fill in the blank) degree angle", when you don't know where the pitch is going to be, and have to make a split second decision on whether to swing or not. Typically, whether or not you hit a home run is based on pitch location, your natural swing on pitches in particular locations, bat speed, and strength.
We've had great home run hitters through the history of baseball, long before "launch angle" was a popular thing to say. The reason I point that out is to remind people that home run hitters don't think about their angle. It either comes natural, or it doesn't.
The people who become obsessed with hitting the ball in the air become very predictable, easy outs over time. If a player makes improvements and starts driving the ball, it's because he worked on all aspects of his game.
That is why I was critical of the Eddie Smith hire, when I heard he was an analytics guy. I'm fine with using analytics to chart tendencies and attack weaknesses. That has always been used. Organizations (or programs, in this case) simply have more technology to gather information now. It's not a "sabermetrics" thing. But the launch angle stuff just turns players into one trick ponies. And we see the fruits of that now. Our hitters are capable of hitting home runs, but when the philosophy is to swing hard and get it in the air, instead of working on eye-hand coordination and letting the bat follow where your brain leads it, SEC pitchers are going to take advantage of that undisciplined, aggressive approach. And they have.
I'm done ranting. Sorry... I've been trying to give it time, but my level of irritation in watching this "approach" has kind of boiled over now.
This post was edited on 4/3/21 at 6:35 am
Posted on 4/3/21 at 8:15 am to Metaloctopus
You have to admit, though, it’s what the rant wanted. For years we’ve had snide comments about the “little players” and the lack of HRs. The majority on here have been screaming for this and applauded the hire of Eddie Smith.
Posted on 4/3/21 at 8:27 am to Penrod
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This post was edited on 10/17/21 at 9:29 pm
Posted on 4/3/21 at 8:31 am to NorthEndZone
This will get worse
Right now they sort of believe they can win until they fall behind
Soon they won’t even believe that
Ive been there
LSU should broom PM now and use the balance of the season to start the rebuilding process
PM is the source of the problem. Not the kids
Every kid on this team was a stud in HS and some are regressing under the current coaching
Do your job Woodward
Right now they sort of believe they can win until they fall behind
Soon they won’t even believe that
Ive been there
LSU should broom PM now and use the balance of the season to start the rebuilding process
PM is the source of the problem. Not the kids
Every kid on this team was a stud in HS and some are regressing under the current coaching
Do your job Woodward
Posted on 4/3/21 at 8:11 pm to Penrod
quote:
You have to admit, though, it’s what the rant wanted. For years we’ve had snide comments about the “little players” and the lack of HRs. The majority on here have been screaming for this and applauded the hire of Eddie Smith.
I know. I wasn't one of them. HR's don't come from the launch angle philosophy. Some people only think they do. And they never think about the consequences of selling out for the home run, unfortunately.
Posted on 4/3/21 at 8:28 pm to Metaloctopus
Can't we quit debating dumb arse launch angle and get this quitter of a coach as far from Baton Rouge as we can.
Posted on 4/3/21 at 8:51 pm to NorthEndZone
how many strikeouts in this 3 game series I took the over 30
Posted on 4/3/21 at 8:56 pm to LSURulzSEC
It was exactly 30.
9 + 16 + 5 in the three games.
Do you lose?
9 + 16 + 5 in the three games.
Do you lose?
Posted on 4/3/21 at 9:03 pm to Penrod
quote:like the idiots on the rant was factored in pm's decision. Some of you people are on crack
You have to admit, though, it’s what the rant wanted. For years we’ve had snide comments about the “little players” and the lack of HRs. The majority on here have been screaming for this and applauded the hire of Eddie Smith.
Posted on 4/3/21 at 9:16 pm to NorthEndZone
quote:
It was exactly 30.
9 + 16 + 5 in the three games.
Do you lose?
frick...can't even count on them to get 31 ks...
Posted on 4/3/21 at 9:47 pm to wally
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Can't we quit debating dumb arse launch angle and get this quitter of a coach as far from Baton Rouge as we can.
Just having a discussion, Wally. We have no control of who gets hired or fired. If that were up to me, it would be done already.
This post was edited on 4/3/21 at 9:47 pm
Posted on 4/3/21 at 9:56 pm to Metaloctopus
Just pray for a large donor to come through. Otherwise, it isn’t happening because of our budget situation. I hate to say it, but you can’t get rid of a guy when the program is going to lose money again this season like it will. We are talking significant money the past 2 years. We are in a major budget situation besides the garbage with Tito IX. I tried to warn people on here that Title IX was going to affect football, but nobody wanted to listen. Orgeron is now testifying. PM is the only “clean” coach of the major 3 sports and firing him would be about stupid right now considering they may have to fire others and replace them...
Posted on 4/3/21 at 10:02 pm to Tiger1988
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Just pray for a large donor to come through. Otherwise, it isn’t happening because of our budget situation. I hate to say it, but you can’t get rid of a guy when the program is going to lose money again this season like it will. We are talking significant money the past 2 years. We are in a major budget situation besides the garbage with Tito IX. I tried to warn people on here that Title IX was going to affect football, but nobody wanted to listen. Orgeron is now testifying. PM is the only “clean” coach of the major 3 sports and firing him would be about stupid right now considering they may have to fire others and replace them...
I am not in disagreement with you. I'm just hoping there is a serious face to face conversation between the athletic department and Mainieri, where he is strongly urged to retire, and that Mainieri will have enough grace to understand that he is now hurting the program, and will walk away.
Perhaps they could also restructure his contract to have his remaining salary deferred. I know LSU has lost money in the last year, but let's be honest, they make money hand over fist the rest of the time, and it shouldn't take long to build back up.
This post was edited on 4/3/21 at 10:05 pm
Posted on 4/3/21 at 10:06 pm to Metaloctopus
quote:
Our hitters are capable of hitting home runs, but when the philosophy is to swing hard and get it in the air, instead of working on eye-hand coordination and letting the bat follow where your brain leads it, SEC pitchers are going to take advantage of that undisciplined, aggressive approach. And they have.
— What you are saying is true—
—The best asst coach that taught players to hit the ball where it’s pitched was Cannizaro.
—instead of trying to jerk everything— awful plate discipline.
Posted on 4/3/21 at 10:22 pm to NorthEndZone
Lol that's so embarrassing.. Leave with a tiny bit of dignity, Paul. Your time is done.
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