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The LSU has too many WR's misnomer...
Posted on 11/22/19 at 7:37 pm
Posted on 11/22/19 at 7:37 pm
I hear a bit of talk on here that LSU should not take 4 WR's. Here is why they will.
First of all, they don't currently have a glut of WR's on the roster. If you count Sullivan as a WR and not a TE they have 10.
J. Chase So.
T. Marshall So.
J. Jefferson Jr.
D. Dillon Sr.
R. McMath So.
T. Palmer Fr.
D. Lee Fr.
S. Sullivan Sr.
J. Jenkins Fr.
J. Kirklin Jr.
Sullivan and Dillon are seniors and Jefferson is an early entry kid it appears so you will likely lose 3.
Also, I don't see D. Lee sticking at WR myself...I think he is better suited to play defense. So if you add 4 recruits this year you will probably be at 10 in the fall assuming no one transfers out.
First of all, they don't currently have a glut of WR's on the roster. If you count Sullivan as a WR and not a TE they have 10.
J. Chase So.
T. Marshall So.
J. Jefferson Jr.
D. Dillon Sr.
R. McMath So.
T. Palmer Fr.
D. Lee Fr.
S. Sullivan Sr.
J. Jenkins Fr.
J. Kirklin Jr.
Sullivan and Dillon are seniors and Jefferson is an early entry kid it appears so you will likely lose 3.
Also, I don't see D. Lee sticking at WR myself...I think he is better suited to play defense. So if you add 4 recruits this year you will probably be at 10 in the fall assuming no one transfers out.
Posted on 11/22/19 at 7:49 pm to SoloTiger
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The LSU has too many WR's misnomer...
People also are forgetting that out of the four in this class the chances that all four are studs and turn into every down players is very low.
When you run a spread offense with 3-5 receivers on every play the chances of injury at that position exponentially increase along with the challenge of actually finding competent players to fills those spots.
If 2 WR’s go down and you only have 9 guys on the roster and really only 6 are even remotely ready to play at a high level then you’re in trouble.
This post was edited on 11/22/19 at 7:50 pm
Posted on 11/22/19 at 8:34 pm to McCaigBro69
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the chances that all four are studs and turn into every down players is very low.
I don’t think so I’m this case. They appear to ALL be studs.
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If 2 WR’s go down
...and IF my aunt had balls....
When’s the last time you’ve seen multiple injuries delete a WR corps?
Posted on 11/22/19 at 8:34 pm to SoloTiger
I wouldn’t say we have too many WR commits. But I would say we have too many WR commits compared to OL commits:
> Even if we get Dumervil, that is only 3
> One is switching from the D-Line
> LSU will never be hurting for for our ability to sign top WR talent (including what is on the horizon for 2021)
> The status of our 2019 OL class is questionable
> OL is the most difficult position group to predict how recruits will work out. So taking a flyer on an OL project is not a bad strategy here
> WR is one of the easiest to predict
> O-Linemen are much more likely to miss games than WR
So in my desire to bring in 4 (or preferably 5) O-Linemen in this 2020 class, yes I would be willing to sacrifice one of the 4 WR commits
> Even if we get Dumervil, that is only 3
> One is switching from the D-Line
> LSU will never be hurting for for our ability to sign top WR talent (including what is on the horizon for 2021)
> The status of our 2019 OL class is questionable
> OL is the most difficult position group to predict how recruits will work out. So taking a flyer on an OL project is not a bad strategy here
> WR is one of the easiest to predict
> O-Linemen are much more likely to miss games than WR
So in my desire to bring in 4 (or preferably 5) O-Linemen in this 2020 class, yes I would be willing to sacrifice one of the 4 WR commits
This post was edited on 11/22/19 at 8:38 pm
Posted on 11/22/19 at 8:43 pm to kevlanmei
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yes I would be willing to sacrifice one of the 4 WR commits
Which one? I'm assuming you would be ok to lose one of Boutte or Moore. If we let Boutte go he ends up at Bama. If we let Moore go we piss of the Rummel pipeline. Or maybe the 5* from DC or Burton who some think is the best of the 4. So who do you want to lose?
This post was edited on 11/22/19 at 8:46 pm
Posted on 11/22/19 at 8:46 pm to Tubedog13
I don’t “want” to lose any of them (hence the word “sacrifice” in my post above).
But I simply cannot imagine many times where a college team should sign more WRs than OL in a class. Certainly not a WR haven like LSU
But I simply cannot imagine many times where a college team should sign more WRs than OL in a class. Certainly not a WR haven like LSU
Posted on 11/22/19 at 8:50 pm to kevlanmei
We dont run a Les miles offense anymore hoss.
If we did I could see your point.
But like another poster said you need WR because of the 5 wrs sets of the new offense
If we did I could see your point.
But like another poster said you need WR because of the 5 wrs sets of the new offense
Posted on 11/22/19 at 8:53 pm to kevlanmei
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But I simply cannot imagine many times where a college team should sign more WRs than OL in a class
Man when this happens you sign one or two extra Oline recruits the next cycle and so forth and so on...we taking the best 25 this year based on need, talent, ect ect and they will adjust for the next years cycle
Posted on 11/22/19 at 9:07 pm to SoloTiger
There is only one football. The ball will go to the top three WR's and one TE primarily. Any stud WR not getting the ball will transfer. 2021 looks like another good class of WR's for us. If all four sign, I have a hard time seeing all of them staying.
Posted on 11/22/19 at 9:14 pm to fOrEvErLsU1987
LSU will lose 3 Senior OLmen (Magee, Lewis, Traore). Possibility Cush could go pro too.
I think the minimum # should be 3 Olmen in this particular class if coaches are confident all the juniors are coming back (Cush, Deculus, Charles, etc). Savage or Campbell could transfer out though due to lack of PT I suppose.
Personally, I would love to carry 15-16 OL on a roster.
I think the minimum # should be 3 Olmen in this particular class if coaches are confident all the juniors are coming back (Cush, Deculus, Charles, etc). Savage or Campbell could transfer out though due to lack of PT I suppose.
Personally, I would love to carry 15-16 OL on a roster.
Posted on 11/22/19 at 9:19 pm to SoloTiger
Next year Louisiana is going to be loaded with WR recruits. According to 247, 5 of the top 10 players in Louisiana next year are WR's: Chris Hilton, Brian Thomas, Quincey Brown, Destyn Pazon, and Solomon Lewis. All are very highly rated. Hilton, Thomas and Brown are probably to good to pass up. Add in another 1 or 2 top out of state WR's that are going to want in. WE don't need 4 WR's in this years class.
Posted on 11/22/19 at 9:21 pm to SoloTiger
We are going to have excess depth at WR between this year and next years classes. We are in much more need of OL's. Crazy to take 4 wr's in this class and only 2 or 3 OL's.
Posted on 11/22/19 at 9:25 pm to kevlanmei
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Even if we get Dumervil, that is only 3
and he is the only one that is highly rated and sought after. The other two might not even pan out.
Posted on 11/22/19 at 9:35 pm to boxcar willie
Nothing excessive about carrying 10 WR with this offense. Some schools that run spreads have 13-14.
You dont need more than 15-16 OL on your roster. Just need to sign 3-4 quality ones each year.
You dont need more than 15-16 OL on your roster. Just need to sign 3-4 quality ones each year.
Posted on 11/22/19 at 9:40 pm to alumni95
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don’t think so I’m this case. They appear to ALL be studs.
Oh for sure. I’m just saying the chances are slim they are all four game changing WR’s. I hope I’m wrong.
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When’s the last time you’ve seen multiple injuries delete a WR corps?
I can’t pinpoint an injury crisis at WR, but just last year we saw it happen in the secondary.
Posted on 11/22/19 at 9:52 pm to SoloTiger
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Just need to sign 3-4 quality ones each year.
if we sign Dumerville we will have 1 that is considered quality in this class so we are going to need to add 2-3 more, other than him, to meet that number
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Nothing excessive about carrying 10 WR with this offense.
Moss and Gilbert are just as much receiving threats as any of the WR's and should be taken into account as well.
just for next season, as it stands now, we will have Chase, Marshall, Palmer, Moss, and adding in Burton, Jarret, Moore, Boutte, and Gilbert; also McMath, Jenkins, and Kirklin. That is 12 right there. Then there are at least 3 in state in 2021 that are just way to good to pass up, plus no telling what other very highly rated out of state WR's that are going to want to be part of the 2021 class. We are going to have a glut of WR's (and pass catching TE's)
Posted on 11/22/19 at 9:53 pm to McCaigBro69
We definitely need more Olinemen but I don’t think CEO decided he didn’t want them. He just couldn’t get them. Van Pran hurt. Dumerville is a must.
But it’s not like we passed on anyone.
Just don’t see how it’s related.
And we have two 1000+ yard WRs on the team and a third with 8 TDs! Nothing wrong with signing 4 stud WRs for this high octane offense. Them boys might need a break every now and then if nothing else.
If Koy didn’t want in, we’d be fine but since he does, you let him in for Rummel.
+ Arik! We are going to be unstoppable on the ground and through the air (if we can protect the QB ;)
But it’s not like we passed on anyone.
Just don’t see how it’s related.
And we have two 1000+ yard WRs on the team and a third with 8 TDs! Nothing wrong with signing 4 stud WRs for this high octane offense. Them boys might need a break every now and then if nothing else.
If Koy didn’t want in, we’d be fine but since he does, you let him in for Rummel.
+ Arik! We are going to be unstoppable on the ground and through the air (if we can protect the QB ;)
Posted on 11/22/19 at 10:10 pm to boxcar willie
I’m telling you man 10-11 WR is no big deal.
That still leaves roughly 30 offensive players left on that side of the ball.
4 QB
5 RB
5 TE
15-16 OL
LSU is currently fine as far as OL #’s. They have 16. 17 if you count Michael Smith who I think was given a scholarship this year. Just replace the 3 or maybe 4 you are going to lose.
That still leaves roughly 30 offensive players left on that side of the ball.
4 QB
5 RB
5 TE
15-16 OL
LSU is currently fine as far as OL #’s. They have 16. 17 if you count Michael Smith who I think was given a scholarship this year. Just replace the 3 or maybe 4 you are going to lose.
This post was edited on 11/22/19 at 10:14 pm
Posted on 11/22/19 at 10:14 pm to SoloTiger
Wasn't just last year alot of OL was recruited and signed?
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