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Dave England
New Orleans Saints Fan
Member since Apr 2013
4676 posts

re: Remember Janzen Jackson
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What if Surtain flames out, never really develops like expected ( see Tony Brown) or has issues. there are no guarantees.

Anything is possible, but arguing against an evaluation system that has time and time again proven to be an accurate determination of talent and potential isn't logically sound and isn't how a program should be run.


Powerman
LSU Fan
Virginia
Member since Jan 2004
135613 posts

re: Remember Janzen Jackson
Considering his dad is a former NFL all pro guy I'm sure he's got a pretty good mentor there.

His chances of being a flop are extremely low. Even if he doesn't play a down in the NFL it's very likely that at minimum he could have provided depth at a position of need. We don't need every player to be a future NFL star to have success. There are plenty of top tier collegiate players that don't play in the NFL.


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dljtigers
LSU Fan
Sulphur, LA
Member since Feb 2012
1238 posts

re: Remember Janzen Jackson
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Remember Janzen Jackson
Don’t cut Jackson short, dude was damn good.


This, dude almost beat LSU by himself. Yea he was a cancer but he could ball. When u r DBU it hurts to lose a #1 CB to the gumps.


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alumni95
LSU Fan
Member since Jun 2004
4679 posts

re: Remember Janzen Jackson
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Landon Collins

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drafted in the 1st round of the NFL Draft


Close, but not quite. Drafted as 1st pick of 2nd round.


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rayballz1010
Navy Fan
Monroe, AL
Member since Feb 2008
8050 posts

re: Remember Janzen Jackson
You forgot he is now in prison for murdering his stepfather while loaded on spice. If you are going to tell the story at least tell everyone the ending for him.
This post was edited on 2/8 at 3:44 pm


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BasilBogomil
Mercer Fan
Edinburgh, UK
Member since Dec 2012
4875 posts
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re: Remember Janzen Jackson
Weird example. Ed O screwed LSU with Jackson and lost Surtain to Alabama.

Just because Jackson turned out to be a wacko, doesn't change the fact that Ed O damaged LSU twice (once intentionally and once unintentionally).



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SammyTiger
LSU Fan
New Orleans, LA
Member since Feb 2009
26855 posts

re: Remember Janzen Jackson
It’s not losing a player, is who we have to replace Ben in the class.

In this case we have no one. And CB is a position of need.


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Abe1961
LSU Fan
Member since Oct 2014
1814 posts

re: Remember Janzen Jackson
Collins did not start at bama for 3 years


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geauxpurple
LSU Fan
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2014
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re: Remember Janzen Jackson
I remember this very well. Orgeron was the mastermind behind that debacle. He apparently has lost his touch.


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Bayoufightingtiger
LSU Fan
Member since Aug 2011
3838 posts

re: Remember Janzen Jackson
How do you know this?


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tduecen
New York Yankees Fan
Member since Nov 2006
138575 posts

re: Remember Janzen Jackson
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here's not much reason to think Surtain is SO frickING MUCH better than Jackson as you're suggesting.
Well for one he isn't a fricking head case like Janzen was


BOZ4LSU
LSU Fan
LILBURN,GA.
Member since Jan 2012
2234 posts

re: Remember Janzen Jackson
Dick move by Surtain family like the Jackson family.


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HighlandRD_ZERO25
Member since Jun 2016
396 posts

re: Remember Janzen Jackson
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Patrick Surtain Jr>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Janzen Jackson


So I'm assuming you've been to the future then? What's it like there??? Do we still have beef jerky?

Oh and....STFU. How the frick would you know which player would end up being better than the other? Is it your extensive experience in scouting or talent evaluation that leads you to be able to compare two different players one of which hasn't even played a down in college yet? Please do tell what insights your future brain might hold for us. Absolutely cannot wait to hear them. If not then please never again try to tell me what a player will end up being before he's ever been in a game in major college football...k sweetheart? Thanks guy.


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Penrod
LSU Fan
Member since Jan 2011
9907 posts

re: Remember Janzen Jackson
Yeah, and I remember Kristian Fulton, too. He was a five star and hasn’t done shite. But I also remember Cam Robinson, who we lost, and he was a 4 year starter for Bama during a time when we were struggling on the o-line.


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TheCaterpillar
LSU Fan
Member since Jan 2004
65303 posts

re: Remember Janzen Jackson
Patrick Surtain is not a bad kid and is definitely not like Janzen Jackson


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RollTigers
LSU Fan
Member since Dec 2010
3214 posts

re: Remember Janzen Jackson
We don't know that yet, really. Bama's definitely better at keeping headcases straight while they're there than Tennessee is, so he's got that going for him.


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CDawson
Member since Dec 2017
1600 posts

re: Remember Janzen Jackson
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Patrick Surtain Jr>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Janzen Jackson


Good opinion. We will know soon enough.


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9th Green At 9
My Happy Place
Member since Jul 2015
1981 posts

re: Remember Janzen Jackson
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Patrick Surtain Jr>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Janzen Jackson


100% disagree with this statement


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deNYEd
Kentucky Fan
Houston
Member since Jul 2007
9454 posts

re: Remember Janzen Jackson
How you forget about the part of the story where he murdered someone...


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tigerfoot
Pittsburgh Fan
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
33835 posts

re: Remember Janzen Jackson
Rankings don’t account for the potential to commit felonies.



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