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QB Discussion: Finley/Johnson/King

Posted on 5/2/19 at 5:01 pm
Posted by Captain Crown
Member since Jun 2011
50596 posts
Posted on 5/2/19 at 5:01 pm
LSU currently has 2 QB's committed. But if you were able to choose which two would you take?


247 2020 LSU Class Breakdown



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This is a bit of uncharted territory for the Tigers. LSU typically has found themselves chasing a quarterback in the offseason leading up to their senior seasons, as was the case in the 2018 cycle, all the way through National Signing Day - where they came up empty. The Tigers rebounded and landed Joe Burrow as a graduate transfer, then signed four-star Peter Parrish in the 2019 class. In between those additions, the Tigers built on the 2020 class by adding Louisiana's top quarterback prospect and a four-star on the 247Sports Composite. Finley a big arm and great size, and having him on board allows them to build the pieces around their quarterback class.



T.J. Finley 247


247Sports Composite: No. 13 pro-style QB, No. 284 overall, No. 11 in Louisiana





HUDL


Max Johnson 247

247Sports Composite: No. 6 pro-style QB, No. 149 overall, No. 15 in Georgia




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LSU followed up Finley's commitment by landing a verbal pledge from Johnson in November, just after he wrapped up his junior year. A number of teams were in the mix for his signature, but Johnson said he felt comfortable with getting on board with LSU's class and the direction the program was headed. The Tigers then won a New Year's Six Bowl and got Johnson back to campus this spring for Junior Day and the Spring Game, where he once again reaffirmed his commitment and added that he now plans to enroll early at LSU next January, giving him a head start on the rest of the 2020 class when it comes to balancing school and work with the team.


HUDL


Haynes King 247

247Sports Composite: No. 4 dual threat-style QB, No. 109 overall, No. 14 in Texas




Longview News Journal: Haynes King Write Up

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Haynes finished his junior season 183-of-273 passing for 3,677 yards, 41 touchdowns and four interceptions passing. He added 71 carries for 576 yards and eight touchdowns. He hit the 50-touchdown mark with a scoring catch as well. He re-wrote virtually every school record passing-wise.

He capped a junior season where he was named the Associated Press Texas Offensive Player of the Year, the Class 6A AP Offensive Player of the Year and a Built Ford Tough Player of the Year candidate with a career-best 425 passing yards in Longview’s 35-34 win over West Brook.


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In 27 starts for the Lobos, Haynes is 313-of-573 for 5,771 yards, 66 touchdowns with 12 interceptions. He has 93 carries for 806 yards and 10 touchdowns and two catches for 60 yards and a touchdown.


HUDL
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 5/2/19 at 5:07 pm to
I have the opinion that King is the best of the 3.

So I'd want him and Finley probably, but him and Johnson would be fine.

Posted by Terrific Tales
Member since Jan 2019
19425 posts
Posted on 5/2/19 at 5:08 pm to
Tbh I think Finley probably has the highest ceiling of any of them. I think you take Finley and one of King or Johnson. Probably King.
Posted by 3rdRowTailgater
Tulsa
Member since Jul 2006
18602 posts
Posted on 5/2/19 at 5:08 pm to
I'd love to have Haynes King in this class, but I'm not taking 3 QBs and I'm not "processing" one of those currently committed.

Keep recruiting King and if one of our current commits has a change of heart then go all out for King.
Posted by rstamp1
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
1121 posts
Posted on 5/2/19 at 5:10 pm to
If Finley was from Georgia he probably wouldn’t be in this class and King would IMO.
Posted by The Jackson 4
Dallas
Member since Feb 2010
460 posts
Posted on 5/2/19 at 5:11 pm to
Longview needs to stop lying. That's Colt McCoy.
Posted by Solo Cam
Member since Sep 2015
32624 posts
Posted on 5/2/19 at 5:12 pm to
Finley has the most potential

Max is the most polished

Haynes is probably the best all around QB. His ability to run really puts him ahead for me. 6’3” guy with legit 4.5 speed is very attractive at QB

I’ll be happy if we land 1 of the 3.

Finley has so much potential and the thought of him and 5 Wide and just firing about he field sounds pretty awesome.

Haynes is a great athlete, coaches son and has had a ton of success at the HS level. Brandon Harris was a similar prospect as Haynes coming out too though, you never know.

Max’s production is concerning but his film at the Opening is salty. Not to mention you know he’s gonna be extremely cerebral.

I’d be happy with any of the 3. Good coaching should be able to develop any of the 3 into a quality SEC QB.
This post was edited on 5/2/19 at 5:16 pm
Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
5504 posts
Posted on 5/2/19 at 5:14 pm to
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But if you were able to choose which two would you take?
1, QB Recruit - Matthew Baldwin - Matthew Baldwin enters transfer portal

2. Haynes King
Posted by Cadello
Eunice
Member since Dec 2007
47791 posts
Posted on 5/2/19 at 5:16 pm to
As hard as it to decide.
It’s a damn good problem to have.
Posted by nicksaur3
Madisonville, Tennessee
Member since Aug 2015
1261 posts
Posted on 5/2/19 at 5:21 pm to
Is anyone concerned with Max playing on a losing team? I know it isn’t his fault but just being a winner is definitely a trait you look for in a QB, I think.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 5/2/19 at 5:22 pm to
quote:

Haynes is probably the best all around QB. His ability to run really puts him ahead for me. 6’3” guy with legit 4.5 speed is very attractive at QB


Dan Mullen better not get this kid.

Because he'd be fricking scary in that system.
Posted by Captain Crown
Member since Jun 2011
50596 posts
Posted on 5/2/19 at 5:27 pm to
I mean the state of Texas just pumps out QB talent. And I will say like I have before that I am biased.

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Posted by Captain Crown
Member since Jun 2011
50596 posts
Posted on 5/2/19 at 5:27 pm to
Thinking of a certain former LSU QB?
Posted by Captain Crown
Member since Jun 2011
50596 posts
Posted on 5/2/19 at 5:30 pm to
How many years does Baldwin have? I’d think continuing to take transfers would put a bad taste in future QB recruiting. That’s also me believing Brennan will take over comfortably next season though so LSU wouldn’t have to.
Posted by TexasTiger24
Houston
Member since Feb 2019
2308 posts
Posted on 5/2/19 at 5:33 pm to
Easy.

Finley and King.
Posted by TexasTiger24
Houston
Member since Feb 2019
2308 posts
Posted on 5/2/19 at 6:16 pm to
So if we take Johnson and Finley this class and still have parish for 4 years assuming he red shirts and Brennan for 2 more years, do we wait until 2022 to take a QB and not take one 2021?
Posted by 3rdRowTailgater
Tulsa
Member since Jul 2006
18602 posts
Posted on 5/2/19 at 6:20 pm to
quote:

Is anyone concerned with Max playing on a losing team? I know it isn’t his fault but just being a winner is definitely a trait you look for in a QB, I think.




Have you seen how bad Ponchatoula has been?
Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
17314 posts
Posted on 5/2/19 at 6:34 pm to
I think people are getting a little carried away with the King hype because he’s the shiny new toy with ties to LSU. He’s a good player but I don’t think he’s a can’t miss type guy. None of the big schools seem to be recruiting him all that hard, and if you watch the Dallas opening film closely you can kinda start to see why. He has great instincts in the pocket and that makes his jr season highlight reel exciting, but it’s hard to tell how good his arm really is. The opening shows the release is a bit slow and winding, and he throws up a few ducks. Most everything from him has a wobble to it. His feet are pretty good, but he’s rail thin and will need to bulk up a lot to play at the next level, especially if he is gonna be a runner. I think he’s more of a project than the rankings would indicate. Don’t get me wrong I would be glad to have him if our one of our other guys moved on but at the moment I think King is third on the list. Commence the downvotes.
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
30016 posts
Posted on 5/2/19 at 6:37 pm to
Does anyone mind using the below template?

Finley
Pros:
Cons:

Johnson
Pros:
Cons:

King
Pros:
Cons:



Who’s the best talent in the next two years?
Who has the most potential by 2023?
This post was edited on 5/2/19 at 6:38 pm
Posted by Tehol Hornddict
Member since Apr 2019
388 posts
Posted on 5/2/19 at 6:46 pm to
King clearly looks more polished than Johnson
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