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Maurice Hampton Question

Posted on 5/22/19 at 8:44 am
Posted by TexasTiger24
Houston
Member since Feb 2019
2308 posts
Posted on 5/22/19 at 8:44 am
If Maurice Hampton takes the MLB route this year, will we be able to take 26 in next years class?
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
68289 posts
Posted on 5/22/19 at 8:49 am to
No, spot is gone
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
30041 posts
Posted on 5/22/19 at 8:50 am to
Same question: different year.
Posted by ColeLSU
Member since Jul 2008
5856 posts
Posted on 5/22/19 at 8:51 am to
No. Only 25 each year

Basically, the only benefit is one less person has to be "processed" whether transfer, booted off team, asked to explore other opportunities, etc
Posted by PeopleChamp
Monroe
Member since Jan 2017
316 posts
Posted on 5/22/19 at 9:30 am to
Yes
Posted by whitefoot
Franklin, TN
Member since Aug 2006
11181 posts
Posted on 5/22/19 at 9:48 am to
We lose the spot if he signed an actual letter of intent. I'm holding out hope that he didn't. I believe there are occasions where recruits sign ceremonial letters that are just for show at signing ceremonies. Hopefully we assured him a spot but didn't actually provide an LOI for him to sign until after the MLB draft shakes out.
Posted by Geauxld Finger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
31664 posts
Posted on 5/22/19 at 9:57 am to
Nope. We took the gamble signing him knowing he could go to mlb.

Hoping he slides to round two. A couple million bucks now isn’t necessarily life altering given his potential as a player down the line in both sports.

Also life as an LSU ball player in two sports is a whole lot more glamorous than mucking it in the high single A league’s, carrying your own shite around, sleeping on busses, and playing in tiny parks in the middle of nowhere with 200 people watching
This post was edited on 5/22/19 at 9:59 am
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
70074 posts
Posted on 5/22/19 at 10:03 am to
This was brought up in relation to the news of Carter Stewart signing a 6 year, $7MM contract with a team in Japan. I don't know the veracity of the statement and whether or not it takes into account the draft signing bonus (it probably does).

But the only two high school draftees to make $7MM in the first six pro years are Bryce Harper and Mike Trout. Everyone else that's made that much in their first six pro years has been drafted out of college and effective short-cutted their route to the majors.
Posted by coondaddy21
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2012
3222 posts
Posted on 5/22/19 at 11:18 am to
I agree! That there is proof that HS kids should attend college and play 3 years of Baseball because it's their quickest route to the Major Leagues.
Posted by higgins
flowery branch, ga
Member since Dec 2009
7918 posts
Posted on 5/22/19 at 11:33 am to
if he's unhappy starting out in A ball, can he enter the MLB portal ?
Posted by Weaver
Madisonville, LA
Member since Nov 2005
27720 posts
Posted on 5/22/19 at 12:09 pm to
we cant ever take more than 25 unless we didn't sign more than that the year before. so if we sign someone and they don't show up, it doesn't matter, they still count to the number, so we can't take an additional person.
Posted by TexasTiger24
Houston
Member since Feb 2019
2308 posts
Posted on 5/22/19 at 12:38 pm to
Thank you for the info, that’s what I thought but wasn’t sure. Hope Hampton makes to LSU.
Posted by TigerBait2008
Boulder,CO
Member since Jun 2008
32382 posts
Posted on 5/22/19 at 1:51 pm to
Wrong
Posted by Joshfire23
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2018
45 posts
Posted on 5/22/19 at 2:11 pm to
Can that be done within the rules?
If so, that could really help LSU in this situation. Was he on full scholarship in baseball also?
Posted by Indiana Tiger
Member since Feb 2005
4057 posts
Posted on 5/22/19 at 2:34 pm to
quote:

We lose the spot if he signed an actual letter of intent. I'm holding out hope that he didn't. I believe there are occasions where recruits sign ceremonial letters that are just for show at signing ceremonies. Hopefully we assured him a spot but didn't actually provide an LOI for him to sign until after the MLB draft shakes out.

quote:

Can that be done within the rules?
If so, that could really help LSU in this situation. Was he on full scholarship in baseball also?


Any offer of a scholarship to play football counts. It doesn't have to be a LOI. If he has an offer of a scholarship to play baseball and he participates in football summer workouts, he counts against football. As far as I can tell, I can see only two ways around this. If he didn't sign anything, he could walk on until his situation is resolved. This would mean he wouldn't be committed to anybody and I think the probability of this is zero.

The second way would have been for him to sign a baseball LOI, but not participate in summer workouts. Show up at fall camp and then he would count. If he didn't we could use his scholarship this year on someone else and sign 26.

I'm sure there are exceptions, but baseball players get partial scholarships because you only get like 11.5 for the entire team.
Posted by whitefoot
Franklin, TN
Member since Aug 2006
11181 posts
Posted on 5/22/19 at 2:36 pm to
quote:

Can that be done within the rules?

Sure. It would basically be a glorified commitment announcement and he'll just sign scholarship papers after the MLB draft shakes out. That said, I highly doubt this is actually the case with Hampton. I'm just hoping this is the case, but I don't expect it to be.

quote:

Was he on full scholarship in baseball also?

Two sport football players always have their scholarship count toward football. He would not count towards the baseball scholarship numbers.

There's another possibility that he signed an LOI to play baseball and not football. If he shows up on campus and joins the football team, he would count towards football, but if he doesn't show up we could use that spot in 2020.
Posted by whitefoot
Franklin, TN
Member since Aug 2006
11181 posts
Posted on 5/22/19 at 2:52 pm to
I don't think it's common (or maybe not even allowed) for incoming freshmen football recruits to participate in summer workouts.

But, the MLB draft signing deadline is in the beginning of July, while freshmen don't arrive on campus until the end of July, so we should know what he's doing several weeks before he would get to school.
Posted by Indiana Tiger
Member since Feb 2005
4057 posts
Posted on 5/22/19 at 3:59 pm to
quote:

I don't think it's common (or maybe not even allowed) for incoming freshmen football recruits to participate in summer workouts.


The only ones that don't are usually the ones who aren't qualified yet and have clearinghouse issues.
Posted by Tehol Hornddict
Member since Apr 2019
388 posts
Posted on 5/22/19 at 4:03 pm to
Players usually start workouts soon after they hit campus at the beginning of summer

Regarding two sport athletes, they don't count against the football scholarship counter until they hit they field; until then, they count against the other sport
Posted by whitefoot
Franklin, TN
Member since Aug 2006
11181 posts
Posted on 5/22/19 at 4:17 pm to
quote:

Players usually start workouts soon after they hit campus at the beginning of summer


Ok. I don't really follow summer workouts very closely. I was just going off of when we usually see the freshman move in threads on the rant, which I thought happened at the end of July, right before training camp starts.

Seth Stewart, for example, was reportedly only on campus 2 days before quitting and that happened in late July. I don't remember him being a clearinghouse hold up either.
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