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Posted on 1/17/22 at 4:31 pm to
Posted by Tigerbait357
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 1/17/22 at 4:31 pm to
I am looking forward to Aleah's debut this week. Looks like she's going to be a go. I would expect to see her on beam, perhaps floor.

Posted by lsugymfann
Seattle
Member since Apr 2020
636 posts
Posted on 1/17/22 at 5:29 pm to
I’m thinking possibly bars too if both Haleigh and Sami are out
Posted by Tigergymfan25
Member since Apr 2019
90 posts
Posted on 1/17/22 at 5:46 pm to
all though Sami and Haleigh are hurt, I think it will be good to play with some depth.
Posted by LSUgymfan420
Member since Oct 2018
738 posts
Posted on 1/17/22 at 8:15 pm to
Any word on those injuries? I was hoping that our unexpected off week last week may have gotten them back in shape (or haleigh at least to do bars). I just worry because I think we might see waves of canceled meets and we dont want to have to worry too much about our RQS (which will suffer if we have fewer meets and have to do too many without our best lineups available).
Posted by lsugymfann
Seattle
Member since Apr 2020
636 posts
Posted on 1/18/22 at 3:31 am to
Speaking of which, I would love to see Kam anchor vault this weekend. She seemed to do well last year the two times she vaulted in the PMAC. Also, if the 5 ahead of her in the lineup hit, that takes the pressure off of her to hit a solid 1.5.
Posted by Bayougallc
Member since Mar 2018
730 posts
Posted on 1/18/22 at 9:59 am to
A good article on injuries and going forward.

LINK
Posted by LSUgymfan420
Member since Oct 2018
738 posts
Posted on 1/18/22 at 11:50 am to
Thanks, Bayougal - I somehow missed that article last week.

But also, we are going to have a time of it with Arkansas without HB on most events. We are going to have to show marked improvements on beam and floor to probably have a shot at them, especially since their scoring is UCLA 2.0...which may be difficult if much of the team missed training for a week.

Also, so strange about Sami's injury - but glad that it was not more serious.
Posted by PDT1960
Member since Nov 2010
111 posts
Posted on 1/18/22 at 5:24 pm to
Any way to get this back to stickied ?
Posted by TigerFan112
Member since Feb 2017
805 posts
Posted on 1/18/22 at 8:59 pm to
There’s more stuff on fb about the AJ situation. Whew, I guess the truth is still out there, but I hope she doesn’t end up at LSU. Talk about negative publicity, which we don’t need. Has there been anything from the team or any of the girls on whether she’s coming here? I think they need to say something publicly. This is turning into a firestorm.

Seems that UCLA is taking the most heat for the situation right now, but I think that’ll turn to LSU if she does come here.
This post was edited on 1/18/22 at 9:12 pm
Posted by shaquilleoatmeal
Member since Jun 2021
961 posts
Posted on 1/18/22 at 9:06 pm to
I mean Dana Duckworth still has a job. People conveniently forgot about the accusations toward her last year when she seemed to turn the program back to winning. The gymnastics community is a cesspool or hypocrisy.
Posted by Tigerbait357
Member since Jun 2011
67859 posts
Posted on 1/18/22 at 9:27 pm to
quote:


There’s more stuff on fb about the AJ situation. Whew, I guess the truth is still out there, but I hope she doesn’t end up at LSU. Talk about negative publicity, which we don’t need. Has there been anything from the team or any of the girls on whether she’s coming here? I think they need to say something publicly. This is turning into a firestorm.

Seems that UCLA is taking the most heat for the situation right now, but I think that’ll turn to LSU if she does come here.



Has anyone else actually said anything except for a mom on another team? It would be nice to get some clarification from someone actually close or within the program instead of hearsay from someone not associated with the program. I am not saying the stuff she is saying isn't untrue but it be nice to get the facts before people go around scolding others for something that may or may not have happened.
This post was edited on 1/18/22 at 11:05 pm
Posted by LSUgymfan420
Member since Oct 2018
738 posts
Posted on 1/18/22 at 10:14 pm to
The new stuff is from some type of social media influencer/gym fan Amanda Seales. I have never heard of her until this (though that isn’t surprising because I am not deep tracks on the gymternet) who purports to have inside information from the team. She also states that the team isn’t allowed to talk about it. I still don’t really understand the whole thing because in today’s climate UCLA would have absolutely no reason to not make an example of her if what is being reported is true. However this influencer states that Waller told the girls to be more welcoming to her? Also, it was states she made Asian slurs - but she and Aleah I think are demonstrably good friends from GAGE and Aleah is Asian (not to mention Leanne, Kara, and Al Fong). Like it literally makes no sense? She would all of a sudden start making comments/that those comments were tolerated by Fong/Gage if she has historically made them

So I have no idea, but I agree with 112 - LSU needs to get out of this fray regardless for the time being.
Posted by Tigerbait357
Member since Jun 2011
67859 posts
Posted on 1/18/22 at 10:21 pm to
LINK

Is this what you are talking about? I hadn’t seen that until just now
Posted by LSUgymfan420
Member since Oct 2018
738 posts
Posted on 1/18/22 at 10:29 pm to
Yes.

Interested in anyone’s thoughts because to me none of what she is describing makes any sense in the current climate, especially at UCLA. Of course it could happen, but like, it seems very odd to me.
Posted by Tigerbait357
Member since Jun 2011
67859 posts
Posted on 1/18/22 at 10:36 pm to
It’s weird hearing them say she was throwing a bunch of asian racial slurs. I can’t imagine how that could have gone on at GAGE with Finnegan, Wong and Eaker there… There is no way those families would tolerate stuff like that…

The entire situation is bizarre.
This post was edited on 1/18/22 at 10:44 pm
Posted by TigerFan112
Member since Feb 2017
805 posts
Posted on 1/18/22 at 10:40 pm to
Yes, TB357, that’s what I was referring to also. I saw the link on the Gymnastics Fans are here fb topic.

I agree with Fan420, the whole thing doesn’t make sense. I’m not saying racism doesn’t exist in gymnastics or anywhere, but what would possess her throw around racial slurs against her teammates. At UCLA of all places, a very diverse university. Not exactly where I’d expect a racist would want to go.

Also on the fb discussion was a post from someone who said AJ (and others) were singing to a song being played and sang the offensive words. I would never have done so, it’s still unacceptable. But if true, it’s not as egregious as the original story made it sound.
Posted by lsugymfann
Seattle
Member since Apr 2020
636 posts
Posted on 1/18/22 at 10:40 pm to
quote:

However this influencer states that Waller told the girls to be more welcoming to her? Also, it was states she made Asian slurs - but she and Aleah I think are demonstrably good friends from GAGE and Aleah is Asian (not to mention Leanne, Kara, and Al Fong). Like it literally makes no sense?


Would also like to point out that her mother, like Aleah’s is Filipina. Until someone at UCLA directly speaks on the issue, I am trying not to form an opinion on the matter since at this point it’s just a “he said, she said” hearsay situation. I too have no idea who Amanda Seales is and I’m pretty deep into gymternet social media.

With that said, there is a Louisiana based LSU fan/former longtime judge who has heard that there’s more to the story than just what has been said. She has also expressed that what has been shared is not entirely true (racism being the reason why she transferred that is). Knowing our girls, I’m sure that if what we do know is actually the truth, despite AJ’s ties to Aleah, our gymnasts of color would not be too happy or accepting of someone with a history of racism at their former program coming to LSU and would speak up against it. Even as a woman of color, until we hear publicly and directly from coaches and gymnasts at UCLA as well as AJ as to what happened, I want to refrain from passing judgement on anyone and jumping to conclusions on anything related to the situation. I honestly don’t think it’s fair that the gymternet has chosen to throw LSU, Jay and AJ into the dumpster fire when all anyone knows at this point still remains to solely be accusations against AJ which is merely heresay and no confirmation of anything else.

Would also like to say that individuals at 18 and 19 are nowhere near the same people that they are at 25 and 26 when their brain finally becomes fully developed and they’ve matured greatly due to their education in college that has allowed them to develop critical thinking skills, as well as a new sense of mental and emotional maturity. Deciding to cancel someone who is still freshly a legal adult and has not gone through college yet, due to allegations against them with no proof, is in my opinion incredibly immature. Yes she may have made a mistake and done something to seriously hurt others at UCLA, but still within that, as humans, we’re not perfect or expected to be perfect. There should be grace and forgiveness for her and anyone for that matter and it’s our job to educate someone when they’ve misspoken or offended us so that they know what they did wrong and can be better. If we jump straight to canceling them, they’ll never learn or grow. I think we can all agree that is at 18 is nowhere near the same person as we are now and AJ deserves to have that same level of basic human empathy to allow her to learn and grow, despite whatever she may or may not have done, rather than immediately cancelling her and people saying she shouldn’t be allowed to be on any collegiate gymnastics team.

Not sure if the rest of y’all agree with me or not but that’s where I stand on this issue: don’t assume anything until we know for certain and don’t conclude anything or formulate an opinion on the matter until we have confirmation from the people directly involved
Posted by SLIPSHITE
Doyline, LA
Member since Jul 2019
509 posts
Posted on 1/18/22 at 10:51 pm to
Exactly, innocent until proven guilty and truthfully about half of the accusations these days are proven false.
Posted by lsugymfann
Seattle
Member since Apr 2020
636 posts
Posted on 1/18/22 at 10:53 pm to
Exactly.

If people want the shorthand response for how us as people/LSU fans should feel about the situation/treat the situation, they should read your reply. If not, knock yourself out and read my entire rant if you guys want the long winded answer about it lol
Posted by Bayougallc
Member since Mar 2018
730 posts
Posted on 1/19/22 at 7:46 am to
It is not even known if AJ is actually at LSU while social media treats the issue as if the deal is done. It is so frustrating to read the assumptions made by these people. It is sad to see anyone's character attacked or debunked without a true account of what transpired.
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