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re: John Thomas class of 2012 LSU commit
Posted on 3/13/13 at 3:03 pm to thunderbird1100
Posted on 3/13/13 at 3:03 pm to thunderbird1100
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Thomas is a pure blocking TE.
No, he isn't. Unless he somehow lost his hands when he tore his ACL.
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Posted on 3/13/13 at 3:12 pm to ProjectP2294
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No, he isn't. Unless he somehow lost his hands when he tore his ACL.
He is big now and had 2 catches last season.
Posted on 3/13/13 at 3:18 pm to thunderbird1100
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He is big now and had 2 catches last season.
Because his team barely throws the ball, not because he can't catch it. I don't understand why you are so obstinate about this.
Coming out of high school, he was basically like Kendall Ardoin is now. An athletic guy that could run and catch. He went to JUCO and practiced in line blocking for two years. Do you think he all of sudden forgot how to catch the ball? No. Now he's a balanced TE that can do both things instead of just a flex guy that's never put his hand in the dirt.
Posted on 3/13/13 at 3:30 pm to ProjectP2294
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Because his team barely throws the ball, not because he can't catch it. I don't understand why you are so obstinate about this.
His team still throws it, and not to him. That should tell you something. You act like he's in a triple option offense.
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Coming out of high school, he was basically like Kendall Ardoin is now. An athletic guy that could run and catch. He went to JUCO and practiced in line blocking for two years. Do you think he all of sudden forgot how to catch the ball? No. Now he's a balanced TE that can do both things instead of just a flex guy that's never put his hand in the dirt.
Coming out of high school is meaningless to what he is now. What players do in high school doesnt mean that can do that against much better competition several years later. Tyler Edwards had like 500 something yards his last 2 years n high school. Mitch Joseph had over 400 yards his senior year of high school. These guys were blockers only pretty much here. Also doesn't mean they are the same size they were back then. He was like 230 pounds in high school, and now he's up over 260 last I heard. He was also never a really fast guy.
Posted on 3/13/13 at 10:30 pm to thunderbird1100
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The "blocking TE" position needs to die. It has absolutely no schematic advantage over bringing a OT out there instead.
Buddy, you're embarrassing yourself. I'm not even going to get into the merits, they're so obvious. Simply consider that many coaches at the pro and college level are doing it. You think maybe they just don't know as much as you?
Posted on 3/14/13 at 1:16 am to Penrod
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Buddy, you're embarrassing yourself. I'm not even going to get into the merits, they're so obvious. Simply consider that many coaches at the pro and college level are doing it. You think maybe they just don't know as much as you?
Really, what pro teams so frequently use purely blocking TEs? Outside of goal line situations, they rarely ever do. Even then, I've seen many teams bring in an extra OL fairly often. Usually, you cant catch or be a H-back type (also special teams sometimes is valuable), you dont make a roster.
And I'm not embarrassing anything. The blocking TE position is on its way out. If you cant see that, you're blind. If you can actually list some schematic advantage one provides, go ahead and list one, and I guarantee you it makes no sense, because an extra OL is always better, or a TE who is a threat to catch as well as block. Afterall, blocking TEs are simply extra OL who cant catch.
Posted on 3/14/13 at 6:48 am to thunderbird1100
You have a better chance of finding a TE who could block almost as well as an OL than an OL who could run routes and have hands almost as good as a TE. There is a reason why guys like Craig Stevens, Matt Spaeth, and Brandon Manumaleuna still land on NFL rosters.
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