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Can a player still flip before they enroll in school?
Posted on 12/17/20 at 1:14 pm
Posted on 12/17/20 at 1:14 pm
Is the LOI binding so he would need the coach's approval to flip or does that kick in when the player enrolls?
Posted on 12/17/20 at 1:18 pm to Damathe
It seems like I remember an o lineman doing that to us about 7 or 8 years ago. Even worse, he eventually signed with bama. I think we lost one of our allotted scholarships because of that dude.
This post was edited on 12/17/20 at 1:19 pm
Posted on 12/17/20 at 1:19 pm to Bee Man
Yeah something about him signing the financial aid paperwork or something?
Posted on 12/17/20 at 1:24 pm to Eighteen
I think so. I try to not get too caught up in high school kids deciding where they want to play, but that one pissed me off because it hurt LSU on multiple fronts.
Posted on 12/17/20 at 1:45 pm to Damathe
If they are allowed to transfer with no penalty this year couldn’t they just do that before they get to campus? Or do you have to be enrolled a certain amount of time before you can transfer?
Posted on 12/17/20 at 1:48 pm to Damathe
You can flip, but you can’t sign a second LOI. I don’t know what the ramifications are on the school’s scholarship limit if you leave them after an LOI.
Posted on 12/17/20 at 1:50 pm to Damathe
A school can let you out of your LOI. Georgia did that for Evans last year allowing him to go to TCU. Besides that I believe you have to go by usual transfer rules if you end up enrolling at a different school than your LOI. Not sure what that means this year when all transfers are immediately eligible.
Posted on 12/17/20 at 1:52 pm to Damathe
I don't know how the free transfer will effect it this year, but normally the school has to release the player from the LOI. That happened with Zach Evans last year (signed with UGA but regretted it and asked out of the LOI) and Bru McCoy was a similar situation. Signed with the school, regretted it, asked to be released and was.
Technically the school doesn't have to release them but that rarely happens. Normally it's not worth the locker room headache and PR hit you would take if you told an 18 year old he can't leave.
Again, not sure if that will continue the same way with free transfers, but that's how it has always worked.
Technically the school doesn't have to release them but that rarely happens. Normally it's not worth the locker room headache and PR hit you would take if you told an 18 year old he can't leave.
Again, not sure if that will continue the same way with free transfers, but that's how it has always worked.
Posted on 12/17/20 at 1:56 pm to Damathe
It's binding in the sense that if they don't attend the school they signed with and go somewhere else, they can't compete for one year and it costs them a year of their eligibility window. Once the LOI is signed and is approved by the conference as valid, it is a done deal. What happened with GA last year is that they never submitted the LOI to the conference. Without conference validation, it is as though the LOI didn't exist.
Posted on 12/17/20 at 1:58 pm to Damathe
I've heard from one of the recruiting "experts" (Bud Elliot, Barton Simmons, somebody like that) that the best thing for the player would actually be to sign the financial aid papers, but never sign a LOI. The financial aid papers legally guarantee the player a spot at the school, but it doesn't lock the player in if they change their mind.
We saw that with the O lineman that ended up at Bama that has been mentioned already in this thread. The player can sign as many financial aid papers as they want and a LOI is not required to enroll in school.
For instance, today Korey Foreman can sign financial aid papers with USC, LSU, CLEMSON, and UGA. He can sign up for classes at all 4 schools, but until he shows up to class in June, he's not committed to any school. Once he attends a class it locks him in the same way a LOI does.
We saw that with the O lineman that ended up at Bama that has been mentioned already in this thread. The player can sign as many financial aid papers as they want and a LOI is not required to enroll in school.
For instance, today Korey Foreman can sign financial aid papers with USC, LSU, CLEMSON, and UGA. He can sign up for classes at all 4 schools, but until he shows up to class in June, he's not committed to any school. Once he attends a class it locks him in the same way a LOI does.
Posted on 12/17/20 at 1:59 pm to brewhan davey
With the lax transfer rules I think anything might happen now
Assuming the team they want to transfer to has room
Assuming the team they want to transfer to has room
Posted on 12/17/20 at 2:09 pm to Barney Rubble
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For instance, today Korey Foreman can sign financial aid papers with USC, LSU, CLEMSON, and UGA. He can sign up for classes at all 4 schools, but until he shows up to class in June, he's not committed to any school. Once he attends a class it locks him in the same way a LOI does.
This is true from a athlete's perspective, but the schools will not allow this. Each one of those financial aid paper signings counts as a signing (i.e. one of their 25 limits). They are not going to be played this way. This stuff only happens when a player signs outside of an LOI signing window.
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