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Can a player still flip before they enroll in school?

Posted on 12/17/20 at 1:14 pm
Posted by Damathe
Member since Apr 2020
7092 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 1:14 pm
Is the LOI binding so he would need the coach's approval to flip or does that kick in when the player enrolls?
Posted by brewhan davey
Audubon Place
Member since Sep 2010
32775 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 1:16 pm to
See Bru McCoy
Posted by Bee Man
Hester, LA
Member since Mar 2018
327 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 1:18 pm to
It seems like I remember an o lineman doing that to us about 7 or 8 years ago. Even worse, he eventually signed with bama. I think we lost one of our allotted scholarships because of that dude.
This post was edited on 12/17/20 at 1:19 pm
Posted by Eighteen
Member since Dec 2006
33853 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 1:19 pm to
Yeah something about him signing the financial aid paperwork or something?
Posted by Bee Man
Hester, LA
Member since Mar 2018
327 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 1:24 pm to
I think so. I try to not get too caught up in high school kids deciding where they want to play, but that one pissed me off because it hurt LSU on multiple fronts.
Posted by AP83
Cottonport
Member since Sep 2009
2709 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 1:45 pm to
If they are allowed to transfer with no penalty this year couldn’t they just do that before they get to campus? Or do you have to be enrolled a certain amount of time before you can transfer?
Posted by Tzanghi
Member since Nov 2020
757 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 1:48 pm to
You can flip, but you can’t sign a second LOI. I don’t know what the ramifications are on the school’s scholarship limit if you leave them after an LOI.
Posted by zackcary
Member since Jun 2011
284 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 1:50 pm to
It was Matt Womack and because he signed the financial aid package it ended up being an NCAA violation on LSU.

LINK
Posted by geauxtigers33
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2014
13734 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 1:50 pm to
A school can let you out of your LOI. Georgia did that for Evans last year allowing him to go to TCU. Besides that I believe you have to go by usual transfer rules if you end up enrolling at a different school than your LOI. Not sure what that means this year when all transfers are immediately eligible.
Posted by Barney Rubble
Hattiesburg MS
Member since Oct 2010
825 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 1:52 pm to
I don't know how the free transfer will effect it this year, but normally the school has to release the player from the LOI. That happened with Zach Evans last year (signed with UGA but regretted it and asked out of the LOI) and Bru McCoy was a similar situation. Signed with the school, regretted it, asked to be released and was.

Technically the school doesn't have to release them but that rarely happens. Normally it's not worth the locker room headache and PR hit you would take if you told an 18 year old he can't leave.

Again, not sure if that will continue the same way with free transfers, but that's how it has always worked.
Posted by Indiana Tiger
Member since Feb 2005
4057 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 1:56 pm to
It's binding in the sense that if they don't attend the school they signed with and go somewhere else, they can't compete for one year and it costs them a year of their eligibility window. Once the LOI is signed and is approved by the conference as valid, it is a done deal. What happened with GA last year is that they never submitted the LOI to the conference. Without conference validation, it is as though the LOI didn't exist.
Posted by Barney Rubble
Hattiesburg MS
Member since Oct 2010
825 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 1:58 pm to
I've heard from one of the recruiting "experts" (Bud Elliot, Barton Simmons, somebody like that) that the best thing for the player would actually be to sign the financial aid papers, but never sign a LOI. The financial aid papers legally guarantee the player a spot at the school, but it doesn't lock the player in if they change their mind.

We saw that with the O lineman that ended up at Bama that has been mentioned already in this thread. The player can sign as many financial aid papers as they want and a LOI is not required to enroll in school.

For instance, today Korey Foreman can sign financial aid papers with USC, LSU, CLEMSON, and UGA. He can sign up for classes at all 4 schools, but until he shows up to class in June, he's not committed to any school. Once he attends a class it locks him in the same way a LOI does.
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
42345 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 1:59 pm to
With the lax transfer rules I think anything might happen now

Assuming the team they want to transfer to has room
Posted by Indiana Tiger
Member since Feb 2005
4057 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 2:09 pm to
quote:

For instance, today Korey Foreman can sign financial aid papers with USC, LSU, CLEMSON, and UGA. He can sign up for classes at all 4 schools, but until he shows up to class in June, he's not committed to any school. Once he attends a class it locks him in the same way a LOI does.


This is true from a athlete's perspective, but the schools will not allow this. Each one of those financial aid paper signings counts as a signing (i.e. one of their 25 limits). They are not going to be played this way. This stuff only happens when a player signs outside of an LOI signing window.
Posted by LSU_30A
Member since Jan 2019
2921 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 2:32 pm to
frick Matt Womack.
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