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Tall fescue grass help
Posted on 9/18/20 at 7:49 am
Posted on 9/18/20 at 7:49 am
My fescue lawn looks like crap despite aerating/overseeding every fall. weeds taking over. Is it best to just roundup the whole yard and start over? If I kill all the existing grass, would a slit seeder work to plant new fescue? Or just pass over yard with aerator multiple times then seed? Is it too late to use a selective herbicide (would fescue seeds germinate)?
Posted on 9/18/20 at 8:37 am to Ric Flair
i feel your pain brother
i'm aerating and overseeding this weekend. if i'm not happy with it next spring i'm taking more drastic measures.
i'm aerating and overseeding this weekend. if i'm not happy with it next spring i'm taking more drastic measures.
This post was edited on 9/18/20 at 8:39 am
Posted on 9/18/20 at 8:51 am to Ric Flair
I got so damn tired of having fescue. So much maintenance and needed so much damn water in the summer. It is not weed resistant whatsoever. I said screw it and got zoysia. I love the zoysia. I don’t understand why anyone would want to deal with having fescue.
Posted on 9/18/20 at 8:57 am to Ric Flair
Get soil test, figure out what's missing and add it. Then overseed and make sure to water the proper amount, then do some weed control in the Spring.
Posted on 9/18/20 at 8:58 am to Bonnie Blue
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I got so damn tired of having fescue. So much maintenance and needed so much damn water in the summer. It is not weed resistant whatsoever. I said screw it and got zoysia. I love the zoysia. I don’t understand why anyone would want to deal with having fescue.
I have an incredibly shady front yard. Parts of it get sunlight only a 2-4 hours a day depending on time of year. Fescue is the only thing that can handle it. I have a zoysia/bermuda back yard, but it would never live in my front lawn.
I'm in Middle Tennessee as well.
Posted on 9/18/20 at 9:31 am to CatfishJohn
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I have an incredibly shady front yard.
that's my problem too... front yard doesnt get enough sun for Zoysia
Posted on 9/18/20 at 10:08 am to Ric Flair
aerating and overseeding are worthless without a quality annual care program.
What are you doing to care for the grass the rest of the year?
Aerating fescue is not necessary as it is not a thatch producing grass.
If you need to overseed, put the seed down with a spreader and then go over the area multiple times with a seeder to push the seed into the ground. The hoppers on seeders are too unreliable.
TTTF will typically germinate in less than 10 days so now would be a good time to put it down.
If you try to kill off the existing grass you are going to push your timeline back at least a week or two waiting for it to die.
What are you doing to care for the grass the rest of the year?
Aerating fescue is not necessary as it is not a thatch producing grass.
If you need to overseed, put the seed down with a spreader and then go over the area multiple times with a seeder to push the seed into the ground. The hoppers on seeders are too unreliable.
TTTF will typically germinate in less than 10 days so now would be a good time to put it down.
If you try to kill off the existing grass you are going to push your timeline back at least a week or two waiting for it to die.
Posted on 9/18/20 at 11:49 am to notsince98
quote:Agreed. If you don't have an annual care program, you will be aerating and overseeding all the time with bad results. Whatever is causing your lawn to perform poorly hasn't been addressed.
aerating and overseeding are worthless without a quality annual care program.
quote:I disagree. If your soil is compacted, core aeration will absolutely help. It will also provide excellent seed to soil contact if overseeded afterwards. Aerating is different than dethatching. I'm sure you knew that and just mispoke.
Aerating fescue is not necessary as it is not a thatch producing grass.
quote:Yep, it's the perfect time.
TTTF will typically germinate in less than 10 days so now would be a good time to put it down.
quote:The only thing I would say is that if your grass is mostly weeds, then go ahead, bite the bullet, and roundup the yard. Wait a few days to ensure the product gets to the roots and then seed. That would be my plan.
If you try to kill off the existing grass you are going to push your timeline back at least a week or two waiting for it to die.
Posted on 9/18/20 at 2:29 pm to AFtigerFan
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I disagree. If your soil is compacted, core aeration will absolutely help. It will also provide excellent seed to soil contact if overseeded afterwards. Aerating is different than dethatching. I'm sure you knew that and just mispoke.
If you have soil compaction, mechanical aeration is treating the symptom and not fixing the problem. There are university proven organic granule products that will aerate, provide organic matter and increase microbial activity way better than mechanical aeration.
Scalping, bagging and using the seeder to push the seed into the ground will provide vastly better seed to soil contact.
This post was edited on 9/18/20 at 2:30 pm
Posted on 9/18/20 at 3:16 pm to notsince98
quote:core aeration provides instant results that will help. It won’t last too long, but it helps and will help with overseeding.
If you have soil compaction, mechanical aeration is treating the symptom and not fixing the problem. There are university proven organic granule products that will aerate, provide organic matter and increase microbial activity way better than mechanical aeration.
Liquid or organic aeration is supposed to provide long lasting help, but it’s effects are not immediate. If he is trying to seed now, I would do core aeration and follow up with liquid if he can.
I agree that slice seeding or pushing the seed into the ground is more effective than broadcast spreading seed after core aeration. If he’s not doing it himself though, cost comes into play.
This post was edited on 9/18/20 at 3:17 pm
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