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question for an experienced plumber
Posted on 4/20/19 at 2:31 pm
Posted on 4/20/19 at 2:31 pm
im wanting to get a whirlpool tub but it also needs to function as a shower
seems pretty straight forward to install it as a tub and then tile it in for use as a shower but what about the button to turn the pump on and off?
i know its a vacuum tube switch but if its in a shower, wont the recessed area under that button housing just fill up with water and grow mold and mildew? THAT is my big hesitation in doing it
is it a no go situation to use whirlpool tubes as a shower tub combo?
seems pretty straight forward to install it as a tub and then tile it in for use as a shower but what about the button to turn the pump on and off?
i know its a vacuum tube switch but if its in a shower, wont the recessed area under that button housing just fill up with water and grow mold and mildew? THAT is my big hesitation in doing it
is it a no go situation to use whirlpool tubes as a shower tub combo?
This post was edited on 4/20/19 at 2:33 pm
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Posted on 4/20/19 at 2:35 pm to keakar
Why do you want a whirlpool tub?
I promise The novelty will wear quickly and you will regret it.
Our current house came with one, it never gets used, and the jets are a PITA to clean and keep clean.
I promise The novelty will wear quickly and you will regret it.
Our current house came with one, it never gets used, and the jets are a PITA to clean and keep clean.
Posted on 4/20/19 at 2:43 pm to keakar
Clearly it is done. The following are all from Jacuzzi. How much you want to spend may dictate what you can or should do.
https://en.jacuzzi.eu/products/bathrooms/twin-range
https://en.jacuzzi.eu/products/bathrooms/twin-range
Posted on 4/20/19 at 2:56 pm to Capital Cajun
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I promise The novelty will wear quickly and you will regret it.
Our current house came with one, it never gets used, and the jets are a PITA to clean and keep clean.
Posted on 4/20/19 at 3:08 pm to mdomingue
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Clearly it is done. The following are all from Jacuzzi. How much you want to spend may dictate what you can or should do.
well in all of those you can clearly see the shower section where water gets everywhere is kept away from all the controls.
i have a 6ft alcove area to install a tub/shower setup and i can and will be doing everything including the tile work myself, but what im trying to avoid is any water standing issues. its in a full redo renovation of a small 2br 1b house
the one control i recall seeing was just a button in a cavity that wasnt water proof as far as filling with water in a shower type scenario but i dont know if they are all made the same.
what makes it worse is when you shop for 6ft tubs, the cost of a budget whirlpool 8 jet tube is pretty close to the non jetted tubs.
as far as using it, i have bad back issues so i can see me using it more then the average person might so it will get used
This post was edited on 4/20/19 at 4:52 pm
Posted on 4/20/19 at 3:32 pm to keakar
You just think you want a whirlpool tub, like a pool, the idea of one is greater than the actual ownership
Posted on 4/20/19 at 3:39 pm to keakar
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well in all of those you can clearly see the shower section where water gets everywhere is kept away from all the controls.
i have a 6ft alcove area to install a tub/shower setup and i can and will be doing everything including the tile work myself, but what im trying to avoid is any water standing issues. its in a full redo renovation of a small 2br 1b house
Those units are all under 6 ft long, I'm assuming the 6 foot limitation is the tub length your space will allow.
Here is a link to a PDF that has all the dimensions the Jacuzzi tubs have. I suspect the price might give you pause but I honestly have never priced their stuff. The Twin offerings start on page 126 (it will be about page 65 on the PDF because its a brochure size with 2 pages per PDF page).
Good luck, would love to see the final outcome, whatever you end up doing.
As for why you want it, in my opinion a grown man is entitled to do whatever he wants to do. https://en.jacuzzi.eu/~/media/Files/Brochures_and_Downloads/Bathrooms/Catalogue_Baths_and_Showers/2013_Jacuzzi-Baths-Showers-ENG.pdf?la=en-IT
Posted on 4/20/19 at 4:04 pm to mdomingue
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Those units are all under 6 ft long, I'm assuming the 6 foot limitation is the tub length your space will allow.
ya, those are pretty but they are into multiple thousands for those, i think they start out at $2,800
its going at the end wall in a 6ftx12ft bathroom so 6ft x 36" fits that perfectly
if i wanted to use a 5ft tub it would be a lot easier and a hell of a lot cheaper but then i have to build in a 1ft filler wall or bring both walls in 6" and if you ever tried soaking in a 5ft tub, you know its just too short to keep your legs straight and just relax.
another very big consideration is the cost, but while i can throw a $150 steel 5ft tub in there to save money, im trying to do something nice while keeping it at a modest budget. so that means im not wanting to go over $800 for the tub.
this is the tub i was thinking about getting but not if its going to have issues with the shower LINK
if i had to go without the whirlpool, for $100 less, this is pretty much the same tub just without the whirlpool jets LINK
This post was edited on 4/20/19 at 4:57 pm
Posted on 4/20/19 at 5:56 pm to keakar
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ya, those are pretty but they are into multiple thousands for those, i think they start out at $2,800
I figure they might be a little pricey, that price would make me think twice.
The following question and answer appears on the whirlpool tub link you provided.
quote:
Can this tub also be used as a shower stall
Asked by Sparker March 13, 2019
Answer this Question
Answer (1)
AmericanStandardBrands
March 14, 2019
You can stand in this tub, just like any normal tub to shower. Sincerely American Standard Technical Team
Kind of implies showering shouldn't be a problem. The one you linked is a drop, keep that in mind.
Good luck with your project.
Posted on 4/21/19 at 1:59 am to mdomingue
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Kind of implies showering shouldn't be a problem. The one you linked is a drop, keep that in mind.
well the on off switch can have water poured over it and still be safe because its just a pressure switch with rubber hose. push the button and air pressure in the hose activates the switch at the pump.
the key is the switch housing itself can trap water under it
in normal bathtub use this isnt a problem since water isnt directly splashing on top of it so thats the question i have if the new tubs have waterproof switches which seems to be very hard question to answer with any certainty
Posted on 4/21/19 at 6:30 am to keakar
I don’t think I’d sweat the switches honestly. Some are on top of the tub where they wouldn’t expect to be staying dry. Shoot them with bleach once a month and don’t sweat it honestly.
More importantly though, and you may not be able to do this on a small budget, but you can find them with external switches. My grandmother’s from like 1980 had a timer switch on the wall. I’m sure you could do something like this today.
More importantly though, and you may not be able to do this on a small budget, but you can find them with external switches. My grandmother’s from like 1980 had a timer switch on the wall. I’m sure you could do something like this today.
Posted on 4/21/19 at 12:24 pm to baldona
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I don’t think I’d sweat the switches honestly. Some are on top of the tub where they wouldn’t expect to be staying dry. Shoot them with bleach once a month and don’t sweat it honestly.
More importantly though, and you may not be able to do this on a small budget, but you can find them with external switches. My grandmother’s from like 1980 had a timer switch on the wall. I’m sure you could do something like this today.
thanks, thats not a bad idea really
i guess i need to just call them and ask them if the switches can have water sprayed on them in a shower and not hold water and grow mildew.
i would "think" they should be designed to not hold water but then i cant recall anyone ever using a whirlpool tub in a shower setting
Posted on 4/21/19 at 10:57 pm to baldona
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I don’t think I’d sweat the switches honestly.
after a good bit of research i found the solution
the switches are designed to be waterproof but the ones mounted on top will hold water in a shower application
lots of models are now made with the switch on the inside of the tub sides so they are perfect for shower applications since any water that gets in them just immediately drains right out the bottom of the switch housing
so while this means i need to go with the higher end tubs to get this feature, it serves the purpose and are better quality made, plus the one i found doesnt use a ton of water
the only bad part is, these tubs start in the $1400 ranges, but money isnt wasted if its spent on quality
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