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EveryonesACoach
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Price differences for new HVAC system
AC is busted, and no piece is newer than 17 years old. Got some quotes today, all for 5 ton 16 seer system either Rheem/Ruud or Carrier, 80% gas furnace, everything replaced up to plenum. I'm looking at

$9700 (Rebel)
$8700 (Climate AC)
$6400 (PVT Air out of Holden, a rec)

Two more arriving tomorrow. What's the thought on these prices? The $6400 jumps out as so much lower, but Brian Cass the self owner was very informative and knowledgeable, wondering why such the big price difference. Any suggestions?


CrawDude
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re: Price differences for new HVAC system
The 2 higher quotes are in line with a single stage 16 Seer quote on a Trane I received 2 years ago. If the low quote is a from small 1 or 2 man firm with minimal overhead I can see why it’s cheaper - and that says nothing about the quality of the install you might expect. I wouldn’t hesitate to hire a small firm with an experienced, highly qualified owner who personally works on the installs.

What is the labor warranty with each quote - 1 year or longer. A longer labor warranty comes at a higher price.

You currently have a 5 ton?


EveryonesACoach
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re: Price differences for new HVAC system
1 year labor, 10 year parts on all. Currently have a 5 ton. And yeah the cheaper price is from a small outfit. Guys credentials is a licensed electrician as well as HVAC, 20 years experience. Nothing about it felt like he was trying to sell me anything, he even mentioned that his quotes usually come in about 30% lower than most others if I was getting other bids, and sure enough his number was a lot lower.


mctiger1985
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re: Price differences for new HVAC system
CrawDude, what's your take on yearly maintenance plans? My new unit offers labor warranty as long as I keep a maintenance contract. Don't remember the price, but it was inline with contracts I've read from other companies.


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CrawDude
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re: Price differences for new HVAC system
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EveryonesACoach

There have numerous posts on H&G board on HVAC pricing with comparable units all over the place. This is a guess on my part, but I suspect quotes on the lower side are most likely from smaller owner/operator firms with much lower overhead.

One the posters on this board keakar is a former HVAC professional and if I recall correctly he says expect to pay $1500-$2000 per ton.





East Coast Band
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re: Price differences for new HVAC system
I know a guy who recently paid about $4500 for a 3 ton unit. 14 Seer
I thought was a good deal.


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Athis
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re: Price differences for new HVAC system
The real honest (but expensive) AC guy told me that to put a new 4 ton HVAC unit in would be $6000.00. He does a thorough job.
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everything replaced up to plenum

The plenum is the big box that has all the duct work coming out of it..Right?
The price that I was given includes replacing the stuff inside the plenum.


CrawDude
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re: Price differences for new HVAC system
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what's your take on yearly maintenance plans? My new unit offers labor warranty as long as I keep a maintenance contract. Don't remember the price, but it was inline with contracts I've read from other companies.

I do it and it’s $160 for two visits annually, late spring, early winter. Honestly I think the 1 late spring visit would probably suffice. The tech does spend an 1 hour with each service, so $80 an hour. I routinely piss away $80 on things less important than HVAC maintenance so why not have it done. With the PM service agreement, if I need a repair I get 10% the regular price and supposedly i’m placed on a high priority list for repair work. As I said in another recent post, I’ve been lucky not to have test that out.

Now I haven’t always had preventative maintenance (PM) contract, and I can pretty much do what the HVAC tech does (clean condenser and evaporator coils, check capacitor and contactor, check amperage draw on fan, blower and compressor motors, clean blower if needed, clean and blow out condensate drain, check refrigerant pressures, superheat, sub-cool) except check the refrigerant pressures, but I have an older system (15 years) and I i think it’s prudent having an older system checked annually. I actually do the same thing on my two autos, an annual inspection, where the vehicle is thoroughly checked, but I trust my auto tech company implicitly.

I notice a couple posters stating in current threads that HVAC techs doing PM on their units suggesting some additional $ services but I can say my company has never done that.
But a good, conscientious tech can pick up potential problem issues during a PM visit.

Interestingly I was reading the HVAC-Talk forum earlier today and I learned from a post from a HVAC tech that some companies now require the residential HVAC owners to have annual PM done and documented in order to maintain an extended labor warranty just as you described. I didn’t know that.
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EveryonesACoach
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The price that I was given includes replacing the stuff inside the plenum


Inside the plenum? That should just be the duct board. They took measurements of existing plenum to make sure it wouldn't need replacing with new systems, otherwise nothing to do in there.


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