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Plants in a wet/swampy area of yard

Posted on 3/28/20 at 9:35 am
Posted by USEyourCURDS
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 3/28/20 at 9:35 am
What plants have successfully flourished for you in wet areas of your yards? I am thinking of doing some hardy hibiscus to get some good coverage and help with the wet spots for mowing.
This post was edited on 3/28/20 at 10:06 am
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 3/28/20 at 9:39 am to
I've just been researching the same thing.
I'm digging a french drain to flow into a low spot.

From the Houston Chronicle:
quote:

For your rain garden

Flowering plants: Turk's cap, Mexican petunia (ruellia), black-eyed Susan, yarrow, swamp milkweed, butterfly weed, canna, purple coneflower, daylily, spider lily, swamp ginger, Mexican mint marigold, lamb's ear, bee balm, 'Red Star' hibiscus, and a few varieties of iris including Louisiana and bearded

Shrubs and small trees: American beauty berry, yaupon, dwarf palmetto, possumhaw holly and Southern wax myrtle

Big trees: Southern swamp maple, river birch, bald cypress, pawpaw, and various native hawthorns.

Other plants: Many ornamental and native grasses do well in rain gardens, such as switchgrass, Indian grass and sedge. crossvine and Carolina jessamine work in both wet and dry conditions.


Just bought a beauty berry. I like the purple.

Also on my radar are: Lamb's ear (pretty cool plant), bee balm, black eyed susan, Turk's cap, and Mexican Petunia.
This post was edited on 3/28/20 at 9:41 am
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
38636 posts
Posted on 3/28/20 at 9:58 am to
iris
spider lily
wax myrtle
willow
palmetto

go have a walk thru a wet woodsy area and see what grows there. Then plant those
Posted by USEyourCURDS
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 3/28/20 at 10:08 am to
Might do a mixture of flowering shrubs. I like the added benefit of privacy when they get big enough. It is a large area of my property line so something that grows 4ft or so outward would be great.
Posted by CrawDude
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 3/28/20 at 11:16 am to
I didn’t realize Turks Cap was a wetland plant but I see it’s in the mallow family with hardy hibiscus so makes sense. I’ve have about a dozen in my landscape. Grows well and flowers in both sun and relatively heavy shade - in fact I planted them in heavy shade as it is one of the limited number of flowering shrubs that do well in heavy shade. Attracts hummingbirds. Grows to the size you are looking for pretty quickly. Though not evergreen per se I’ve found that it pretty much holds it leaves year around in Baton Rouge except exceedlingly hard and lengthy freezes.

I also like American Beautyberry (“French Mulberry”). Parsley Hawthorne is nice small wetland tree - but be aware all the hawthornes are thorny as reflected in their name. Button bush is another woody shrub you might look into. I don’t have any, but I know it grows well in wetland conditions.
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 3/28/20 at 12:02 pm to
Did you graduate in horticulture?
Posted by luvdoc
"Please Ignore Our Yelp Reviews"
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 3/28/20 at 12:38 pm to
Cliftonia monophylla,
walters viburnum Viburnum obovatum
Ilex glabra Gallberry Inkberry
Lyonia lucida Fetterbush
Myrica heterophylla Swamp Bayberry
aster vine

all natives


This post was edited on 3/28/20 at 12:39 pm
Posted by CrawDude
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
5264 posts
Posted on 3/28/20 at 12:43 pm to
quote:

Did you graduate in horticulture?

no my degrees are in the aquatic sciences but I worked for some years across the parking lot of a horticultural and agronomy department and know quite a few professionals in that field. I just have an interest in it, I’ve going through the master gardeners program. and anything I need to know or have interest in I read, teach myself and I know the professionals who to contact if I have question I can’t figure out on my own. How does the old saying go, “I know just enough to be dangerous..”
Posted by lsurulzes88
Member since Jan 2007
398 posts
Posted on 3/28/20 at 12:55 pm to
What did yall do to remove grass while getting these areas filled in? And how did yall keep it from running back into these areas?
Posted by CrawDude
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
5264 posts
Posted on 3/28/20 at 1:58 pm to
quote:

What did yall do to remove grass while getting these areas filled in? And how did yall keep it from running back into these areas?

Do you mean filled in with plants? I have a few low areas in the yard, I do get some runoff from neighbors, and I’ve installed drainage and graded to greatly improve the problem but still contend with some wet areas.

In those areas rather than spend a lot of time and effort with adding additional underground drainage I sprayed the grass with glyphosate herbicide but I did not remove the grass. I bought in bulk garden soil/mix, built raised landscape beds (about 12 inches high, it settles about 1/3 over time) directly over the grass I sprayed, and planted “wetland” shrubs in those “wet area” beds. Examples of plants in those beds are American Beautyberry, Henry Garnet Virginia Willow (sweetspire). It has worked fine - no issue associated with not removing the dead grass and saved me a ton of work, plants are doing very good. I might add I have a 26 year old bald cypress in that area and I’m sure it does it’s share of work in helping to remove excess water during heavy or extended rain events.

No magic bullet for keeping grass from running back into beds. I don’t use physical barrier edging, not my cup of tea, but no issue with those that do. I keep it suppressed by “weed eating” along the beds but 2 or 3 couple times a year I physically remove grass runners into those beds. Less work if you keep up with it before it gets out of hand.

I don’t know if that addressed the questions you are asking.


This post was edited on 3/28/20 at 2:39 pm
Posted by lsurulzes88
Member since Jan 2007
398 posts
Posted on 3/28/20 at 2:06 pm to
That did. Appreciate it!
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 3/28/20 at 2:11 pm to
Just wondering. You’re all over this board

Am I on a fool’s errand here? Or does this have potential??

My house was storing water badly to the left of the AC unit. The slope was just all wrong.

Now, I’ve dug quite the trench to the lowest spot in my yard. Holds a few inches of water.
I want to make this a creek feeding a rain garden.

Could it work?

This post was edited on 3/28/20 at 2:12 pm
Posted by eng08
Member since Jan 2013
5997 posts
Posted on 3/28/20 at 2:16 pm to
Try using this to convey the water away from the house. LINK to hydraway
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
18883 posts
Posted on 3/28/20 at 2:36 pm to
Son, we in a recession!
Posted by luvdoc
"Please Ignore Our Yelp Reviews"
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Posted on 3/28/20 at 2:36 pm to
a description of natives to the gulf south in wet areas:

Overstory species in the habitat may include Atlantic white cedar (Chamaecyparis thyoides), sweet bay (Magnolia virginiana), red bay (Persea borbonia), loblolly bay (Gordonia lasianthus), tupelo (Nyssa spp.) and pines (Pinus spp.). It shares the understory with other plants such as sweetbells (Eubotrys racemosa), highbush blueberry (Vaccinium corymbosum), sweet pepperbush (Clethera alnifolia), titi (Cyrilla racemiflora), laurelleaf greenbrier (Smilax laurifolia), honeycup (Zenobia pulverulenta), and oaks (Quercus spp.)
Posted by CrawDude
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
5264 posts
Posted on 3/28/20 at 3:41 pm to
quote:

Just wondering. You’re all over this board

I used to do university extension work in the aquatic area at one time, so it’s like the old days when I was answering pond owner questions on a daily basis, but the H&G board is more challenging.

quote:

Am I on a fool’s errand here? Or does this have potential??

My house was storing water badly to the left of the AC unit. The slope was just all wrong.

Now, I’ve dug quite the trench to the lowest spot in my yard. Holds a few inches of water.
I want to make this a creek feeding a rain garden.

Could it work?


Sure it will work if you have sloped properly to the rain garden, I’m impressed - that’s a lot of work, must have been a bear digging through tree roots - you have 2 big ones there. I have a good friend whose neighbor across the street did something similar to move water to the street, they have lined with rocks for aesthetics looks nice and very functional.

Now another option, which I’ve done my self, should you find you don’t like the trench down the road, is to put a sump pump basin and pump at the low area next to the house where all the water collects, then put a 1.5 or 2 inch discharge pipe in your trench, back fill and place a popup emitter at the end of the pipe that discharges into rain garden you plan to build. You have electrical close by you can tie into. A pump of the size you would require runs on 120 V, and 15 amp circuit breaker, though 20 amp is better. Here are a few pics of mine that pumps water from the backyard, down the side of the house to the front yard.



This post was edited on 3/28/20 at 4:58 pm
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
25914 posts
Posted on 3/28/20 at 4:16 pm to
Snakes will love this option.
Posted by USEyourCURDS
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 3/28/20 at 6:22 pm to
Thanks!
Posted by Cowboyfan89
Member since Sep 2015
12702 posts
Posted on 3/28/20 at 7:13 pm to
quote:

Shrubs and small trees: American beauty berry, yaupon, dwarf palmetto, possumhaw holly and Southern wax myrtle


Sheesh, maybe on the edge, but not in the middle of a wet area. Beautyberry is most commonly found in upland areas in Louisiana. It's very similar to loblolly pine in that you will find it on the edges of swamps, but it's not a wetland species by any means.

The rest of their list is pretty spot on. I would definitely recommend Texas Star Hibiscus. Beautiful plant, makes big red flowers. Surprised that list didn't include buttonbush. Great wetland plant, very striking white flowers, and great for pollinators. Stay away from switchgrass unless you want it to take over. Copper iris is another great plant with a striking flower. In my opinion, nothing says spring like that beautiful copper flower atop that bright green foliage.
Posted by Capt ST
Hotel California
Member since Aug 2011
12804 posts
Posted on 3/28/20 at 7:47 pm to
Elephant ears, irises, ferns
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