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OT opinion on finger jointed wall studs
Posted on 5/5/22 at 1:24 pm
Posted on 5/5/22 at 1:24 pm
I’m not a builder. I saw these and wondered if it’s just a way to build new homes more cheaply (as if they aren’t cutting enough corners) or a legitimate use of good cutoffs. I also wonder if it’s climate specific, i.e low humidity areas.
Posted on 5/5/22 at 1:25 pm to Bamafig
Legitimate.
Long roof rafters are made from them as well.
Long roof rafters are made from them as well.
Posted on 5/5/22 at 1:27 pm to poochie
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Long roof rafters are made from them as well.
My roof rafters are made from them. They are up to code but we will see how they hold up 30 years from now. They are 25+ft so its the only real option they had.
Posted on 5/5/22 at 1:30 pm to poochie
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Long roof rafters are made from them as well.
I was never a fan of it and always tried to get fir for rafters without joints. I had a worker fall through a joist one time because he stepped right on the joint and put all of his weight on it.
Posted on 5/5/22 at 1:35 pm to Bamafig
You will get multiple opinions on it. A quality finger joint will be stronger than the wood that surrounds it.
Just make sure they have the proper stamp for the use.
I don't have an issue with finger-jointed wood used in vertical compression.
Just make sure they have the proper stamp for the use.
I don't have an issue with finger-jointed wood used in vertical compression.
Posted on 5/5/22 at 1:38 pm to Bamafig
Don't they use finger-joimted studs because it resists twisting?
First time I saw it, I remember picturing the house falling like a house of cards in a stiff thunderstorm wind. But I asked a contractor about it and he explained it that they could get some engineered wood cheaper than natural wood studs but the engineered stuff was susceptible to twisting over time in humid environments like the southeast and that it would be just fine as long as they stay under stress (or load I guess)
First time I saw it, I remember picturing the house falling like a house of cards in a stiff thunderstorm wind. But I asked a contractor about it and he explained it that they could get some engineered wood cheaper than natural wood studs but the engineered stuff was susceptible to twisting over time in humid environments like the southeast and that it would be just fine as long as they stay under stress (or load I guess)
This post was edited on 5/5/22 at 1:43 pm
Posted on 5/5/22 at 1:52 pm to stout
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I was never a fan of it and always tried to get fir for rafters without joints. I had a worker fall through a joist one time because he stepped right on the joint and put all of his weight on it.
Yeah, the tensile strength starts out at 84% of the base wood and immediately decreases as the temperature rises. No way I'd use them for anything other than studs in the south.
Posted on 5/5/22 at 1:55 pm to Bamafig
Not a fan on using them but especially on ANYTHING thats load bearing. But i was a GC and what i built was usually commercial grade spec so they were never acceptable.
Posted on 5/5/22 at 2:06 pm to junkfunky
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Yeah, the tensile strength starts out at 84% of the base wood and immediately decreases as the temperature rises. No way I'd use them for anything other than studs in the south.
Don’t really have a choice when you start getting over 26’ rafter. Change your centers and properly brace.
Posted on 5/5/22 at 2:21 pm to Art Vandelay
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Don’t really have a choice when you start getting over 26’ rafter. Change your centers and properly brace.
There are plenty of other options, likely cheaper as well. Trusses, wood I-joists, cripple walls you can use to build out a dedicated storage area, etc.
You should always choose mechanical fasteners and splice plates in lieu of glue where the temperatures get really high.
Posted on 5/5/22 at 2:31 pm to junkfunky
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cripple walls
You can visit OweO’s home to view these and see how you like them.
I’ll see myself out.
Posted on 5/5/22 at 2:37 pm to Obtuse1
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You will get multiple opinions on it. A quality finger joint will be stronger than the wood that surrounds it.
Correct. I remember seeing that (mostly in door framing, brick mould etc.) back in the early eighties when I work in retail at a home improvement store.
When learning about those, we were told exactly that and also that this was typically used to connect very straight shorter pieces of wood. That was because it was much easier to find 4 very straight 2 foot pieces than 1 very straight 8 foot piece.
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